They said you need life...they said you need resistances...

I say all you need is a sunder charm!
Honestly, this is quite possibly the most fun I've had with ubers in a long, long time. Say what you will about sunders..and I am certainly still not entirely in favor of them..but the mere fact that they open up entire builds that weren't viable before, and even more so allow those builds access to areas that they're just even worse for..is awesome.

A stark contrast to all of my other builds with their capped resistances. An equally stark contrast to smiters with their 2k+ life or still 1.5k+ even in budget gear. But it works. Not when zerging mindlessly (sup pally!), it does take a bit of strategizing and skill for a change..but that just makes it even better!
And apparently, effort gets rewarded...3 torches farmed: sorc, sorc and pally. Can't complain about that.

Admittedly, the first attempt kiiiind of failed (got 5/6,

Baal was a brick wall) but as it turns out..that's just because I was an idiot and accidentally created my uber game cross-ocean, only to then keep getting

Baal-1shot in

Teleport lag. (Thanks again for eventually helping me not lose that one Torty ^^)

It has me curious though..apart from my no-respec uber sorc, what unthinkable builds/activities have you come up with, now that things became a lot more 'accessible'?

What build did you use?

Seemed

Frost Nova also became very usable, in addition to Blizzard.

But needs more tankiness as you tp in the middle of packs.

Do you have

Energy Shield ? And what level are you ?

Full fire + ES, 91 atm. Never meant to actually lvl her that high (couldn't care less about ladder itself after all) but turns out you get quite a bit of xp trying to farm sunders.

Side note:

Frost Nova has always been usable. Albeit a fair bit less dmg than light

Nova.

Jesus, good job bud!

Ok so the one and only and last thing stupid sorcs still had a bit of problem doing is now totally doable with sunder charms. Build a sorc, get a sunder charm and forget about challenge. Let's just change the game name into "Stupid Sorceress 2 Resurrected"

While that isn't necessarily wrong, the same is true for most classes so...yeah.

Schnorki wrote: 2 years ago

While that isn't necessarily wrong, the same is true for most classes so...yeah.

See my avatar? Try to affirm that blizzard turned d2r into a clicking whack-a-mole game for him without laughing.

Well, there is a significant difference between "clicking whack-a-mole" and "totally doable".

After all, I can't think of a single thing my druid can't do, including ubers.

Though I won't dare pretend all classes are equal. They all can do it but some are obviously far easier and/or faster to do certain things with.

Steccothal wrote: 2 years ago

Schnorki wrote: 2 years ago

While that isn't necessarily wrong, the same is true for most classes so...yeah.

See my avatar?

Yeah he looks glum, probably because he's a D2R druid

I think we have this avatar selectable in the gallery if you want lol:
Nice write up Schnorki. I'm guessing you can go glass cannon and

Teleport around them with max damage after sunders?

What a purdy smile..

Yes and no. From how I went about it, seems the best approach for meph is to basically lure him into a trap. Dia can more or less be zerged down if he doesn't immediately go nuts with adds.

Baal though...ugh,

Baal is annoying AF. If he summons his clone, he instantly wins thanks to said clone immediately dropping that damn mana curse. You can hardly kite him because he starts jumping all over, avoiding pretty much all dmg in the process. And as a sorc, his dmg is actually surprisingly high. So he ideally needs to be moved into just the right spot where you can tele-kite him back and forth along the exact same path that keeps him in the damage zone.

Steccothal wrote: 2 years ago

Ok so the one and only and last thing stupid sorcs still had a bit of problem doing is now totally doable with sunder charms. Build a sorc, get a sunder charm and forget about challenge. Let's just change the game name into "Stupid Sorceress 2 Resurrected"

Having not used a sunder charm on a sorc yet take what I say with a grain of salt.

I can imagine being able to do users with a sorc + sunder is far from easy. There would be a lot of kiting, attacking fast and getting out of

Dodge. And Blood mana will kill you in a hurry. I believe a fire druid could do it, albeit a lot harder without tele, but an Enigma would solve that

If you want a class that puts the game on easy mode play a paladin lol.

Schnorki wrote: 2 years ago

Well, there is a significant difference between "clicking whack-a-mole" and "totally doable".

After all, I can't think of a single thing my druid can't do, including ubers.

Though I won't dare pretend all classes are equal. They all can do it but some are obviously far easier and/or faster to do certain things with.

Give your druid 600 life points and -40 elemental res and go in

Uber Tristram, then you tell me about what he can or can t do

Steccothal wrote: 2 years ago

Schnorki wrote: 2 years ago

Well, there is a significant difference between "clicking whack-a-mole" and "totally doable".

After all, I can't think of a single thing my druid can't do, including ubers.

Though I won't dare pretend all classes are equal. They all can do it but some are obviously far easier and/or faster to do certain things with.

Give your druid 600 life points and -40 elemental res and go in

Uber Tristram, then you tell me about what he can or can t do

I think i should take a workshop/masterclass with you about how to get good in d2r.
it seems like this is peanuts for you. anyhow, i feel ya. why don't you use the option/not to use TZ?

it seems you misunderstood me, i didn't mean to be arrogant, it is just that the most surprising thing here is that a sorc can run ubers with very low life and res, so the druid should be tested under the same conditions to be compared

Steccothal wrote: 2 years ago

that a sorc can run ubers with very low life and res

i will look that up. perhaps she doesn't get close to get hit. i'm not there yet to even answer this

The same conditions aren't based on exact stats though. Different classes have different stat needs, different skills and entirely different playstyles. I mean..if you give a pally 600 life and no res, even he couldn't really do ubers anymore.

A sorc could get by with -100 res across the board IF she pushes

Energy Shield high enough and gears for accordingly high mana. Though at some point you give up too much damage and/or FCR, making you fail for other reasons. Depending on what you're after, that viable middle Ground is no easier to hit than fully gearing other classes and builds.

A druid wouldn't do that because they're more life based and tend to get a ton of res from their normal/preferred gear anyways (depending on the build).

That having been said though, druid might be a bad example there because druids are probably the one class (excluding cheesy merc builds) that actually could successfully clear ubers at 1 life and -100 res, if you could even get that low.
The reason I'm saying that is because I've run ubers multiple times on my summoner druid and in that build, you can literally just sit back at the Edge of the screen, take 0 damage from anything the entire fight and just re-summon your pets as needed until the uber is down. It certainly does take a while as a druid since their boss killing speed is nowhere near this particular build (or smiters and the like) but at the same time, it is the safest and least dangerous ubers I've ever done.

by god, this makes me very terrified after i get my 3to3 set...

Steccothal wrote: 2 years ago

it seems you misunderstood me, i didn't mean to be arrogant, it is just that the most surprising thing here is that a sorc can run ubers with very low life and res, so the druid should be tested under the same conditions to be compared

Well, that particular Sorceress uses

Energy Shield, so her life pool isn't THAT important in this case.

She also has

Teleport, which helps her survive much more easily.

Why would you want to compare different classes under the same conditions? Obviously, they will not perform equally as good. Everyone knows that the Sorceress and the Paladin are the two best / most versatile classes in the game, so what? If you like the Druid, play with one, challenge yourself, find ways to do the Ubers and have fun while at it.