Sunder's & Heralds: Clarifications on Drops

Hey D2IO,

Starting a new thread here as there were some previous ones touching on this, and while a few of us believed that offline (singleplayer) suggested they would only drop on

Herald Tier4's and Tier5's this is INCORRECT.

Who can drop Sunders? ALL TIERS - both online and offline.

Do Tier 4's and Tier5's have a better chance? Yes, due to a specific Sunder TC and a "negative pick" - it will have a chance to roll

That said, the fact remains that Sunders still have a high NoDrop and /playercountx is the most important factor in putting yourself in a good position for Tier4 and Tier5 heralds.

Yes, Tier4's and Tier5's are a premium, also quite dangerous for Hardcore, but the higher the player count, the higher the potential.

So how does it work for Tier1 - Tier3? Surprisingly something interesting.

In short, Tier1 - Tier3 DO NOT have a specific Sunder Table. Instead, they translate from a standard Magic GC going through the games "Quality Checks". Just like how it can roll into a Gheeds, it can roll a Sunder. Your personal Magic Find % plays a large roll here naturally as one would expect. /Playercount and thus NoDrop then does not play much of a roll as it relates to hunting a Sunder in this particular instance.

Many of us who were heavily researching this were working with the information we had at the time based on our own mining, but also real world evidence (signal).

More will be coming out on this soon, be on the lookout, but I wanted to get this in the open.

cc: @ShadowHeart @Schnorki