Grief vs Fortitude for smiter. Which first?

Sup.

If you were to build Grief or Fortitude as you dropped a

Lo and your current setup is:

Wep:

Heaven's Light
Arm: Treachery

Which one you would change first and why?
I'm leaning towards a Fortitude as the survivability without it isn't that good and it'll be easier to survive with it.

Thanks for your feedback.

I personally went with Grief on my smiter due to the great boost to damage that it provides.

I use Smoke as my main armour due to the +50 all resists and enhanced defence. I have only died during one run and that was due to my own mistake. It's really great and super cheap (Just

Nef+

Lum!) I'm aiming to change that out for Chains of Honor instead of Fortitude myself due to better resists and +2 skills

I only prebuff with Treachery by standing in the flames before entering

Tristram to get my resistances up to keep them in the positive scale for

Mephisto's

Conviction and then re-equip Smoke.

Hope that helps!

I believe Grief should be the first item. That 340-400 counts to ur

Smite dmg which is a solid boost. Crushing blow weakens pretty quickly and that extra dmg from weapon is what finishes bosses down faster.
Also if u running alone that mighty Grief should help u with zealing ur way to the bosses.

Fortitude is great but not as a defensive item and that's what are u looking for if I'm correct. It's more like to boost ur dmg but without Grief and as a smiter u won't feel it. Extra life is fine but quite low with all resistances.
I can see few options for Forti like
Smoke (if we need extra survi - 50 to all ress),
Duress (if we need extra dmg via more crushing blow and little to all ress 15),
Lionheart - budget Fortitude (30all ress, 50 life +20 vita = 110 life, unfortunately not much armor)

The only good about Fortitute is that u can always give it to ur sorc merc to boost his dmg. But still. For smiter or a zealer Grief is what I would looking for as a very first item.
Personally got both of them and Grief is what changed my life. Fortitude is also great but not without the weapon ;/

As someone who recently built a Fortitude and today a Grief I can add to the sentiment, that Grief should be the priority. Given - yes I don't die with my smiter, but neither did I before, while using Smoke. With the added damage from Grief however I obliterate most enemies. At the moment I use him to farm

Travincal and it's really made a significant difference using Grief.

Easy one.... Grief > Fortitude any day. You only make Fortitude when you have too many

Lo
I started making Grief and never regretted it. I can also add that i have made a Fortitude afterwards and gave it to my merc .

Fortitude imo. Cause you can at least throw it on a merc when it's not in use. Can always use a cheap Black until you make Grief

Grief is a GAME CHANGER! Grief all the way!

Grief for sure. Dracs are my primary survivability, and even with

Atma's on, interrupting

Life Tap proc's sometimes, it's still enough to survive with just Duress and other low-tier gear.

From my experience, survivability on a smiter is 50% "Pump your lightning res to the max", 49% "Proc lifetap" and 1% "everything else".

A 4 socket armor with

Ort

Ort

Ort

Ort (for 120 light res) is about on par with Fortitude for the survivability.

Ok maybe I exaggerate a little, but you get the point.

Grief and some Crushing blow for damage, Lifetap and Light res for survivability. That's pretty much all you need.

(ok your other res ideally shouldn't be atrocious, but Light res matters more than all others combined).

Psych00l wrote: 3 years ago

Sup.

If you were to build Grief or Fortitude as you dropped a

Lo and your current setup is:

Wep:

Heaven's Light
Arm: Treachery

Which one you would change first and why?
I'm leaning towards a Fortitude as the survivability without it isn't that good and it'll be easier to survive with it.

Thanks for your feedback.

Both are nice. Just build what you have most use for other chars too.

Follow up question: 2nd Grief or Fortitude for a Barb (

Frenzy/ww)?

The answer is always Grief: it is the only weapon in the game that adds a (massive) bonus to base damage and it's invaluable for any melee build. Once you have your main or dual weapons sorted out you can think about upping your defenses.

*MAYBE* in Hardcore it makes sense to build defenses first but I never played it so I don't really know. Outside of that, always hit first and hit harder than the other monsters

Grief is the most OP item in the game hands down no question! Nothing else remotely matches the damage it can do. The

Key is that it doesn’t rely on the base weapon damage, it adds raw damage, so you can put it in the fastest base you want (

Phase Blade).

Anonemous wrote: 2 years ago

Follow up question: 2nd Grief or Fortitude for a Barb (

Frenzy/ww)?

Fortitude will probably be better in both cases, cover holes in your setup with the offhand for

Frenzy and you could use the broken weapon glitch for

Whirlwind.

Anonemous wrote: 2 years ago

Follow up question: 2nd Grief or Fortitude for a Barb (

Frenzy/ww)?

Your best

Frenzy combo would be Breath of the Dying & Death together.

(And Fortitude for body armor)

ok we go on,for Grief cb or

Phase Blade for barbarian? and if barbarian uses Grief which skill has more effective on uber bosses ?

Grief gives me Grief...but yeah, Grief first

Forti isn't needed for a smiter, but Grief is. Lots of good, cheaper chest armor that's comparable (Smoke,

Guardian Angel, Duress) , but no weapon that compares to Grief (except maybe Last Wish).

My question is, Forti or CoH for smiter's merc? Currently leaning towards CoH, but everyone and their grandma recommends Forti.. I'd rather have him be able to survive ubers (without constant potions) over extra damage.

EDIT: made a CoH and seems to be working very nicely

Manowar wrote: 2 years ago

ok we go on,for Grief cb or

Phase Blade for barbarian? and if barbarian uses Grief which skill has more effective on uber bosses ?

Any suggestions?

Definitely Grief. Grief adds direct huge +dmg bonus to shield dmg. Effect from forti sucks in comparison to effect of Grief.