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Do someone already find a Scepter with +X to Holy Shield or +X to Smite?

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Hi

Do someone already find a
Scepter
with +X to
Holy Shield
or +X to
Smite
?

According to
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/
it is way harder than others skills with the same level...

Staff mod chance on
Scepter
:

----

ilvl L1:
-
Smite

Odds of rolling selected mods: 1/15,243 (0.0066%)
- Any other L1 skill
Odds of rolling selected mods: 1/4.849 (20.62%)

ilvl L24:
-
Smite

Odds of rolling selected mods: 1/136,883 (0.00073%)
- Any other L1 skill
Odds of rolling selected mods: 1/35.9 (2.79%)

ilvl L25+:
- any L1 skill
Odds of rolling selected mods: 0%

----

ilvl 24-
- any L24 skill
Odds of rolling selected mods: 0%

ilvl 25
-
Holy Shield

Odds of rolling selected mods: 1/68,333 (0.0015%)
- Any other L24 skill
Odds of rolling selected mods: 1/7.808 (12.81%)

ilvl 99
-
Holy Shield

Odds of rolling selected mods: 1/27,054 (0.0037%)
- Any other L24 skill
Odds of rolling selected mods: 1/18.35 (5.45%)
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Hi

Do someone already find a
Scepter
with +X to
Holy Shield
or +X to
Smite
?

According to
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/
it is way harder than others skills with the same level...

Staff mod chance on
Scepter
:

----

ilvl L1:
-
Smite

Odds of rolling selected mods: 1/15,243 (0.0066%)
- Any other L1 skill
Odds of rolling selected mods: 1/4.849 (20.62%)

ilvl L24:
-
Smite

Odds of rolling selected mods: 1/136,883 (0.00073%)
- Any other L1 skill
Odds of rolling selected mods: 1/35.9 (2.79%)

ilvl L25+:
- any L1 skill
Odds of rolling selected mods: 0%

----

ilvl 24-
- any L24 skill
Odds of rolling selected mods: 0%

ilvl 25
-
Holy Shield

Odds of rolling selected mods: 1/68,333 (0.0015%)
- Any other L24 skill
Odds of rolling selected mods: 1/7.808 (12.81%)

ilvl 99
-
Holy Shield

Odds of rolling selected mods: 1/27,054 (0.0037%)
- Any other L24 skill
Odds of rolling selected mods: 1/18.35 (5.45%)
Answeredby ShadowHeart4 months agoGo to post
It's not possible in D2R anymore. It was possible back in LoD.

Technically, both skills are and have always* (since D2/LoD patch 1.10, see EDIT below) been prohibited from appearing on scepters. They were prohibited on scepters back in the day too (since patch 1.10), but every time the game rolled a skill to appear on a scepter, the roll always included all paladin skills, even these two prohibited ones. If it came up Holy Shield or Smite, the game would do a second roll. And if it happened again, it would do a third roll. And so on. I think after 7 consecutive rolls (someone correct me if I'm wrong) it gave up and just used whatever the roll said. That's why it was so incredibly rare to come up with either Smite or Holy Shield. It had to do a roll for either of those skills several times in a row, which makes the odds astronomically low.

They removed the upper limit on number of rolls in D2R. Therefore, it can no longer happen - the game will simply keep rolling the skill until it comes up with anything that's allowed on a scepter.

EDIT: Clarification after post by @DarkMaster: The skills were allowed on scepters in D2/LoD before patch 1.10. It was D2/LoD patch 1.10 that made them forbidden on scepters.

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ShadowHeart 2636Moderator

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It's not possible in D2R anymore. It was possible back in LoD.

Technically, both skills are and have always* (since D2/LoD patch 1.10, see EDIT below) been prohibited from appearing on scepters. They were prohibited on scepters back in the day too (since patch 1.10), but every time the game rolled a skill to appear on a
Scepter
, the roll always included all paladin skills, even these two prohibited ones. If it came up
Holy Shield
or
Smite
, the game would do a second roll. And if it happened again, it would do a third roll. And so on. I think after 7 consecutive rolls (someone correct me if I'm wrong) it gave up and just used whatever the roll said. That's why it was so incredibly rare to come up with either
Smite
or
Holy Shield
. It had to do a roll for either of those skills several times in a row, which makes the odds astronomically low.

They removed the upper limit on number of rolls in D2R. Therefore, it can no longer happen - the game will simply keep rolling the skill until it comes up with anything that's allowed on a
Scepter
.

EDIT: Clarification after post by @DarkMaster: The skills were allowed on scepters in D2/LoD before patch 1.10. It was D2/LoD patch 1.10 that made them forbidden on scepters.
This post was marked as the best answer.

I'm in CET (Central European Time), so that's UTC+1 normally and UTC+2 during DST.
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
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ShadowHeart wrote: 4 months ago
Technically, both skills are and have always been prohibited from appearing on scepters. They were prohibited on scepters back in the day too,

They removed the upper limit on number of rolls in D2R. I can't remember if it was like that from the beginning or in one of the D2R patches. Therefore, it can no longer happen - the game will simply keep rolling the skill until it comes up with anything that's allowed on a
Scepter
.
Not always,
Smite
and
Holy Shield
were valid staffmods in 1.09 and prior, it was 1.10 that made them "forbidden" and much harder to roll.

And yeah AFAIK they made it to where it keeps rolling infinitely until it selects a valid staffmod, it's been that way since D2R launch. Bit of a bummer IMO, little quirks like these were fun but oh well.
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ShadowHeart 2636Moderator

Europe PC
DarkMaster wrote: 4 months ago
Not always,
Smite
and
Holy Shield
were valid staffmods in 1.09 and prior, it was 1.10 that made them "forbidden" and much harder to roll.
Ah, thanks for clarifying! I have edited my reply to accomodate this info :)

I'm in CET (Central European Time), so that's UTC+1 normally and UTC+2 during DST.
My profile says Ladder, but I play both Ladder and Non-Ladder.
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