Bowazon ideas?

I use to think bowazons were useless. I have a Lycanders w/ %ed+speed jewel... how should I build off that?

Useless?! Blasphemy!
Physical bowazons are among the most fun characters in the game!
Unless you only play on high player counts, a phys bowazon hardly needs more than the skills themselves and a good dual leech source.
A built strafezon with Atma's can definitely clear areas in higher player count games too.
Take any and all free points and just shove em into Dexterity which directly increases damage done. Vitality? Pshh... just don't get hit- duh!

I personally enjoy multishot more and hit the 147 BP without Faith thanks to jewellers' armor and Helm. Shreds all content P1.

strafezon is my best Herald hunter, beats Fireball sorc, icemaiden, self wield Infinity and Lightning Fury

60 points into bow skills, 20 points into valk (almost immortal tank), rest into passives
Windforce with uber jewel, Diadem with ias and ed, Enigma, Razortail, 2x ravenfrost (maybe replace one with bul katos), Atma's Scarab, War Traveler, Laying of Hands (replace with e.g. Lava Gout for tombs and cows). merc rogue with Faith. Chains of Honor, Andariel's Visage. you generally don't need Fortitude but can put it on from time to time to increase dps even further

fill stash with as many +max dmg+attack rating charms as you want. Bone Break with - physical res helps a lot

like i said, combination of damage output and safety through Valkyrie is unrivaled

"Crazy equpment overkill here!" I use a Faith+Fortitude, and just for good measure a Windforce on swap, but in my defense I have found 7 Windforce bows over the last 5 years. I get a lot of use out of this video, but it is easier to show than try to explain.

ChristianKiss wrote: 1 month ago

I agree with both posts above.

1) It is fun to play. Probably the coolest ranged char.

2) Gear is usually cheap, unless you are looking for crazy equipment like Faith+Fortitude, which is overkill. Windforce with Laying of Hands and Guillaume's Face is a great combination and not expensive.

The bow you mentioned, Lycanders, is very good for most purposes, but I think you'd be better off using Goldstrike / Eaglehorn / Windforce if the bowazom is purely physical.

Lycanders is better suited for elemental Arrows, in my opinion.

add 1 infinty onto merc....?

Infinity won't do her any good. there are following possibilities

1) if zon carries Faith, then merc shall be either rogue with Mist or emilio with Pride
2) if zon carries Windforce or Mist, merc shall be rogue with Faith

Whero wrote: 1 month ago

ChristianKiss wrote: 1 month ago

I agree with both posts above.

1) It is fun to play. Probably the coolest ranged char.

2) Gear is usually cheap, unless you are looking for crazy equipment like Faith+Fortitude, which is overkill. Windforce with Laying of Hands and Guillaume's Face is a great combination and not expensive.

The bow you mentioned, Lycanders, is very good for most purposes, but I think you'd be better off using Goldstrike / Eaglehorn / Windforce if the bowazom is purely physical.

Lycanders is better suited for elemental Arrows, in my opinion.

add 1 infinty onto merc....?

In terms of gameplay, bowazon is one of the best builds in the game. She's one of my stronger Herald hunters! ("strong" does mean: safe and effective)

I have two bowas, and I will make a third. None of them does wear Enigma.

Strafe/ Multiple Shot/ Freezing Arrow hybrid is my fav.

DasNarf wrote: 1 month ago

In terms of gameplay, bowazon is one of the best builds in the game. She's one of my stronger Herald hunters! ("strong" does mean: safe and effective)

I have two bowas, and I will make a third. None of them does wear Enigma.

Strafe/ Multiple Shot/ Freezing Arrow hybrid is my fav.

What is your hybrid Bowazon build and gear? I want to do a bowazon with Freezing Arrow, but I’m afraid she will be too slow vs pure physical or vs other builds.

varangium wrote: 1 month ago

What is your hybrid Bowazon build and gear? I want to do a bowazon with Freezing Arrow, but I’m afraid she will be too slow vs pure physical or vs other builds.

This build is used on /P1 to /P3:

Attributes:
STR 50 (108)
DEX 375 (432)
VIT 120 (169)
ENG 15 (65)

Skills:
Freezing Arrow, Cold Arrow, Strafe, Guided Arrow maxed. Critical Strike 8 pts, Pierce 4 pts, Dodge/Avoid/ Evade/ Slow Missiles 1 pt. Remaining into Multiple Shot.

Gear:
Faith GMB + Ice MB
Hysteria
Wisdom
2/20 gloves
M'avina's Tenet
2x 10 FCR leech/resist/damage/dex etc. rings
Atma's Scarab
War Traveler
Mix of AR/maxdam and skiller charms.
Torch, Anni, no Sunder.

Barbarian merc is wearing Fortitude, Andariel's Visage, Plague and Last Wish.

She is level 94 now and her damage is 5.5k physical, 62% Crit, AR 24k and 2.5 k cold. That's more than enough for solo play.
110% faster run/walk, maxed resists except cold.

Very fun to play!

My build:



Not cheap but worth it. It's my favorite to play. This was P1 with Harmony on switch.

brownSys wrote: 1 month ago

My build:



Not cheap but worth it. It's my favorite to play. This was P1 with Harmony on switch.

Nice to see different variants of the same build. I am using Enigma, Atma, Faith, Carrion Wind and different type of rare socketed Circlet Max dmg instead of ED. All charms in stash are Max dmg/AR/FRW. Would be nice to compare these two.

Karel wrote: 1 month ago

brownSys wrote: 1 month ago

My build:



Not cheap but worth it. It's my favorite to play. This was P1 with Harmony on switch.

Nice to see different variants of the same build. I am using Enigma, Atma, Faith, Carrion Wind and different type of rare socketed Circlet Max dmg instead of ED. All charms in stash are Max dmg/AR/FRW. Would be nice to compare these two.

I've never used Enigma on this build just focused on having really high FRW. With the terrible FCR on the zon I'm under the impression that Enigma is not a great choice for physbowa. Fort is really nice. I need to try a build with Treachery and a build with 4os magic armor with 4 ias jewels to see how those play.

Atma's can be good at higher player counts but on P1 it's pointless because everything dies before it ever procs. When using Atma's I use Hustle/Mania on switch to make up for the 20% IAS loss.

I've used Carrion Wind before. It's fun procing the twisters but ultimately doesn't come close to being as good as the rare ring I have or the rare ring I used before I got this one.

The ED on the Helm really has little impact on damage. The 45 IAS is the primary benefit.

brownSys wrote: 1 month ago

Karel wrote: 1 month ago

brownSys wrote: 1 month ago

My build:



Not cheap but worth it. It's my favorite to play. This was P1 with Harmony on switch.

Nice to see different variants of the same build. I am using Enigma, Atma, Faith, Carrion Wind and different type of rare socketed Circlet Max dmg instead of ED. All charms in stash are Max dmg/AR/FRW. Would be nice to compare these two.

I've never used Enigma on this build just focused on having really high FRW. With the terrible FCR on the zon I'm under the impression that Enigma is not a great choice for physbowa. Fort is really nice. I need to try a build with Treachery and a build with 4os magic armor with 4 ias jewels to see how those play.

Atma's can be good at higher player counts but on P1 it's pointless because everything dies before it ever procs. When using Atma's I use Hustle/Mania on switch to make up for the 20% IAS loss.

I've used Carrion Wind before. It's fun procing the twisters but ultimately doesn't come close to being as good as the rare ring I have or the rare ring I used before I got this one.

The ED on the Helm really has little impact on damage. The 45 IAS is the primary benefit.

I started with fort, had nice numbers of dmg but in the end the extra damage didnt make much difference. On the other hand extra FRW and the possibility to tp through a wall makes a lot of difference. I got more than +150% FRW, Harmony on swap same as you, do you have more than 150%? In catacombs or Tal Rasha or any other place with walls, sometimes even the slowest TP through the wall is faster than the fastest run around extra MF and + 2 skills are also not that bad, especially when you wrote that you kill everything before Atma procs, why not a little less dmg but better everything else?

Atma is not pointless even on P1 but the main difference is probably that I am using mainly Strafe but you are using multiple arrow. With Strafe Atma procs very often and in places with a lot of ghosts or Stone skin heralds etc it makes the biggest difference. Also because of Faith I have max IAS breakpoint on Strafe even without extra IAS from amulet.

Yeah I got a lot of crafted or rare dual leech rings, but I really needed just LL and twisters are awesome when you are in strafelock. I can tp in the pack of cows or almost anything else and strafelock myself without fear. Even fast phys immune ghosts that are not dying with 1st or 2nd shot are stunned for a while and not giving me any dmg.

I chose helmet with +2 to ama skills, mana leech, extra frw, IAS and +34 max dmg. Makes 500dmg difference, helps with breakpoint etc.

Karel wrote: 1 month ago

brownSys wrote: 1 month ago

Karel wrote: 1 month ago

Nice to see different variants of the same build. I am using Enigma, Atma, Faith, Carrion Wind and different type of rare socketed Circlet Max dmg instead of ED. All charms in stash are Max dmg/AR/FRW. Would be nice to compare these two.

I've never used Enigma on this build just focused on having really high FRW. With the terrible FCR on the zon I'm under the impression that Enigma is not a great choice for physbowa. Fort is really nice. I need to try a build with Treachery and a build with 4os magic armor with 4 ias jewels to see how those play.

Atma's can be good at higher player counts but on P1 it's pointless because everything dies before it ever procs. When using Atma's I use Hustle/Mania on switch to make up for the 20% IAS loss.

I've used Carrion Wind before. It's fun procing the twisters but ultimately doesn't come close to being as good as the rare ring I have or the rare ring I used before I got this one.

The ED on the Helm really has little impact on damage. The 45 IAS is the primary benefit.

I started with fort, had nice numbers of dmg but in the end the extra damage didnt make much difference. On the other hand extra FRW and the possibility to tp through a wall makes a lot of difference. I got more than +150% FRW, Harmony on swap same as you, do you have more than 150%? In catacombs or Tal Rasha or any other place with walls, sometimes even the slowest TP through the wall is faster than the fastest run around extra MF and + 2 skills are also not that bad, especially when you wrote that you kill everything before Atma procs, why not a little less dmg but better everything else?

Atma is not pointless even on P1 but the main difference is probably that I am using mainly Strafe but you are using multiple arrow. With Strafe Atma procs very often and in places with a lot of ghosts or Stone skin heralds etc it makes the biggest difference. Also because of Faith I have max IAS breakpoint on Strafe even without extra IAS from amulet.

Yeah I got a lot of crafted or rare dual leech rings, but I really needed just LL and twisters are awesome when you are in strafelock. I can tp in the pack of cows or almost anything else and strafelock myself without fear. Even fast phys immune ghosts that are not dying with 1st or 2nd shot are stunned for a while and not giving me any dmg.

I chose helmet with +2 to ama skills, mana leech, extra frw, IAS and +34 max dmg. Makes 500dmg difference, helps with breakpoint etc.

Good point on Enigma. I forgot about the FRW it has. Although I currently have 97% FRW. With the diminishing returns on FRW from gear the 45% from Enigma will make little difference. The biggest downside to Enigma will be the loss of 29 all res that I currently get from fort. I already have very low res. Still, worth trying out.

" Atma is not pointless even on P1." I have to disagree here. Perhaps it makes perfect sense on your build but on mine it doesn't. Before I got the protectors Stone (-10 phys res) and phys sunder (-10 ) I used almost exclusively Strafe. Now, with -20 phys res multishot kills fast enough I've switched to multishot. I've tried atmas on P1 only using Strafe with 120IAS breakpoint. Even without -20 phys res everything is dead before it ever procs. You can see in my video everything dies very fast. Amp damage isn't useful in that case. The monsters have to be alive long enough to proc amp dmg and then long enough for it to even matter. On top of that missing the 20ias from the ammy slot is a big deal with Windforce. That drops me down to 85 ias where I miss the 89% ias breakpoint for standard/split arrow requiring Hustle/Mania which is far slower than Harmony.

I need that 45 IAS in the Helm with Windforce, though if I ever decide to switch to Faith might consider your Helm setup. I just prefer the marginally higher DPS from WF plus protectors Stone option and the biggest thing for me is the knockback. It really helps with survivability when using Strafe. Also I'm at lvl 98 and working hard to get to 99. The extra XP from the Stone is very desirable right now.

I've been crafting power hit gloves for awhile now hoping to get a good pair with 2/20 for use with Faith. Once that happens and I get to 99 I'm going to give Faith another go. Until then it sits in the stash.

All that said I will have to give your build a try sometime I have everything on your list, sounds like a fun build!

i am still unsure which elemental arrow to with a lycanders?

i am still unsure whwhich elemental arrow to max with lycandrs?

sorry muktiple posts amd what about Infinity on merc or Obedience?

Whero wrote: 1 month ago

i am still unsure whwhich elemental arrow to max with lycandrs?

Don't know if Lycander's is any good for fire but for cold, go with Wizendraw. -35 ECR is huge!

Whero wrote: 1 month ago

sorry muktiple posts amd what about Infinity on merc or Obedience?

If you are playing elemental zon and have a Merc Infinity, it's a great choice for most situations.
Obedience is a great budget AS Merc weapon.