Can someone smarter than me suggest some good gear options for a fire based Bowazon? Especially the armour and weapon, it's not at all clear to me what I should be aiming for. I have a level 80 Amazon that I'm planning to use, and I'm playing ladder to get Flickering Flame and the relevant sunder charm, but I can't find any good build guides with gear so would be grateful of suggestions.
On a related note, I have a 5os +3 GMB on non ladder; is there anything I can do with this now that Mist will not be coming to non ladder? E.g., if I stuff 5 fire facets in it, could that be a decent weapon for this build? Or maybe a mix of facets and IAS jewels to hit a break point.
Appreciate this is a bit vague but not looking for a definitive answer, more some suggestions for me to look into. Thanks!
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Can someone smarter than me suggest some good gear options for a fire based Bowazon? Especially the armour and weapon, it's not at all clear to me what I should be aiming for. I have a level 80 Amazon that I'm planning to use, and I'm playing ladder to get Flickering Flame and the relevant sunder charm, but I can't find any good build guides with gear so would be grateful of suggestions.
On a related note, I have a 5os +3 GMB on non ladder; is there anything I can do with this now that Mist will not be coming to non ladder? E.g., if I stuff 5 fire facets in it, could that be a decent weapon for this build? Or maybe a mix of facets and IAS jewels to hit a break point.
Appreciate this is a bit vague but not looking for a definitive answer, more some suggestions for me to look into. Thanks!
On a related note, I have a 5os +3 GMB on non ladder; is there anything I can do with this now that Mist will not be coming to non ladder? E.g., if I stuff 5 fire facets in it, could that be a decent weapon for this build? Or maybe a mix of facets and IAS jewels to hit a break point.
Appreciate this is a bit vague but not looking for a definitive answer, more some suggestions for me to look into. Thanks!
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I have little to no experience with fire bowzon, but my personal suggestion is that you hold onto that 5os GMB in the event that Mist will be able to be made in NL. I think that given the amount of and frequent updates that D2R has been seeing, they will eventually allow some of the new RWs to be made in NL. The devs have been back and forth in regards to their intentions on allowing the new RWs to be available to make in NL, but if we the community keep asking for the new RWs in NL, there is a chance they will listen to us.
Also, I suggest you get yourself a set of Lava Gout, those are nice IAS gloves that also gives you Enchant and fire res, I'm running one with my Ice mageZon, and even though she uses FA, the Enchant gives a nice alternative elemental dmg.
Also, I suggest you get yourself a set of Lava Gout, those are nice IAS gloves that also gives you Enchant and fire res, I'm running one with my Ice mageZon, and even though she uses FA, the Enchant gives a nice alternative elemental dmg.
To go cheap, you can start with Kuko Shukaku as a bow and start seeing how things work.
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Yep, Kuko Shakaku is good suggestion. I can also recommend to find any fast 3 OS bow with +3 to bow skills and create Melody.Necrarch wrote: 1 year ago To go cheap, you can start with Kuko Shukaku as a bow and start seeing how things work.
Melody is super cheap (highest rune is Ko). Benefits are great for this price: +6 to total bow skills (3+3), 20IAS, knockback and Dodge.
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Also I can recommend to watch Bowa videos on youtube. This man is bowazon genius and has few fire builds videos that u can take as examples.
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Harmony and Kuko Shakaku are both good bow choices. I prefer Harmony for the movement speed and dealing with Fire Immunes (or just have it on weapon switch). Your best in slot is Ice or Faith, depending on whether you want to play cold or physical for your second damage source.
Jeweler's Armor of X stuffed with fire rainbow facets for pure fire damage. Treachery is always solid. If you went with Ice, then Chains of Honor is your armor (kind of boring). Fortitude if you went Faith in a GMB.
Jeweler's Armor of X stuffed with fire rainbow facets for pure fire damage. Treachery is always solid. If you went with Ice, then Chains of Honor is your armor (kind of boring). Fortitude if you went Faith in a GMB.
The best suggestion for fire Amazon 80lvl is to use Token of Absolution, boost Strafe and buy Faith/forti/Pride
I'm throwing this first one out there, not because it's a good suggestion (I personally wouldn't spend a Jah for it, but that's because I don't think fire builds are in a good place right now), but that it's a theorycrafting option for a build without taking cost into account.
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Because the runeword has no IAS, i would supplement the build with Faith on a rogue merc.
Okay, now for a realistic suggestion. Even though it's still on the expensive side, the thread title says "BiS". I would actually consider making this if fire skills were in a good place.
Hand of Justice Matriarchal Bow
Demon Limb weapon switch for a better Enchant than Lava Gout
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Because the runeword has no IAS, i would supplement the build with Faith on a rogue merc.
Okay, now for a realistic suggestion. Even though it's still on the expensive side, the thread title says "BiS". I would actually consider making this if fire skills were in a good place.
Hand of Justice Matriarchal Bow
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Not speaking from experience, but maybe an upped Goldstrike Arch with good rolls might be a cheap solid bow as well.
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Thanks all for the suggestions. I know that fire is not in a good place but I have a physical bowa and have tried Freezing Arrow, I like having something different and wanted to make use of the fire charm and Flickering Flame. I've got Kuko and Melody but the latter only in a +1 base, so I will hunt for a +3.
Hand of Justice sounds very interesting because I do have a Cham that I don't know what to do with. It looks like that should be BiS based on the stats it has? Just need that Sur...
Hand of Justice sounds very interesting because I do have a Cham that I don't know what to do with. It looks like that should be BiS based on the stats it has? Just need that Sur...
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Excess Cham runes can always be cubed up into Zod runes and then used for building an eBotD for some other char.
In classic D2 when I first made a mageazon, I used Freezing Arrow to obviously freeze, and stacked Immolation Arrow to burn and do the heavy damage. Immolation Arrow got nerfed to the point of nonviability in LoD, so that led to me to move away from the whole Fire Arrow branch. While the current synergies and removal of most of the Immolation Arrow casting delay both help, fire still feels anemic if you're only relying on the skills in the skill tree. They have to be augmented with auras and additional damage.
Hand of Justice with the Holy Fire and -20% enemy fire resist helps a good bit to augment that arrow damage, and then you have up to an additional -15% from Flickering Flame. I don't know if skill synergies work between item-granted auras, but if they do, that's even better. Also, Hit Blinds Target and Freezes Target means you don't need to put points into the Cold Arrow branch to hold enemies in their position.
The Enchant on Demon Limb lasts for over 11 minutes and frees you up to use either 2/20 rare bow skill gloves to increase your fire damage or Laying of Hands. In fact, Demon Limb on switch and Laying of Hands is superior to Lava Gout in practically every way.
Part of the reason fire is not in a great place is because fire damage alone isn't powerful enough to put a huge dent in enemies. Hand of Justice is really a hybrid fire/physical damage weapon, but you need that as a bowazon. Her fire skill damage alone can't compare to that of a sorceress.
I know I've said in other posts and threads that fire kind of sucks for a bowazon, but it might be viable with Hand of Justice, while Flickering Flame and whatever the fire sunder charm is called is pretty much a perfect match because Resist Fire overcomes the negative resists so there's really nothing but upside with that combo. It's just a matter of whether the fire damage component is strong enough, and who knows, it very well might be with those three items together.
Hand of Justice with the Holy Fire and -20% enemy fire resist helps a good bit to augment that arrow damage, and then you have up to an additional -15% from Flickering Flame. I don't know if skill synergies work between item-granted auras, but if they do, that's even better. Also, Hit Blinds Target and Freezes Target means you don't need to put points into the Cold Arrow branch to hold enemies in their position.
The Enchant on Demon Limb lasts for over 11 minutes and frees you up to use either 2/20 rare bow skill gloves to increase your fire damage or Laying of Hands. In fact, Demon Limb on switch and Laying of Hands is superior to Lava Gout in practically every way.
Part of the reason fire is not in a great place is because fire damage alone isn't powerful enough to put a huge dent in enemies. Hand of Justice is really a hybrid fire/physical damage weapon, but you need that as a bowazon. Her fire skill damage alone can't compare to that of a sorceress.
I know I've said in other posts and threads that fire kind of sucks for a bowazon, but it might be viable with Hand of Justice, while Flickering Flame and whatever the fire sunder charm is called is pretty much a perfect match because Resist Fire overcomes the negative resists so there's really nothing but upside with that combo. It's just a matter of whether the fire damage component is strong enough, and who knows, it very well might be with those three items together.
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