ubers

can the warlock,fire or Abyss, take ubers down?
or the ancients ?
hes my only character that i feel has a chance possibly

fire lock struggled to kill the dclone( probably because its fire resistent)
but my cold sorc did plenty damage and kills it fast and easy

i have plenty of statue sets but i dont think i have the right character to take down any uber

i tried to help a friend take down lilth we were all sorcs, went brutally bad for us, just not enough space to move around like youd want for such squishy builds

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I don't know if your firelock could take them. I tried Mosiac and got down had to recruit a smiter so i just built one.

Get a smiter

richhtx wrote: 19 hours ago

can the warlock,fire or Abyss, take ubers down?
or the ancients ?
hes my only character that i feel has a chance possibly

fire lock struggled to kill the dclone( probably because its fire resistent)
but my cold sorc did plenty damage and kills it fast and easy

i have plenty of statue sets but i dont think i have the right character to take down any uber

i tried to help a friend take down lilth we were all sorcs, went brutally bad for us, just not enough space to move around like youd want for such squishy builds

My abysslock takes them all down in just a few minutes now

I think a Fire WL could.. but I haven't tried mine yet. I'm leveling to 99 first, and don't want to die and lose the XP

D clone randomly surprised my fire WL at Travincal , and he went down pretty easy with no prep.

Once I try Ubers at level 99, I'll report back.

Separately, I can take down Lilith with just a Nova sorc, but I do use some specialized gear to do that - Nova sorc is not well optimized for Lilith ( Nova has poor single target damage and Lilith is lightning immune)

Rhaegar86 wrote: 10 hours ago

richhtx wrote: 19 hours ago

can the warlock,fire or Abyss, take ubers down?
or the ancients ?
hes my only character that i feel has a chance possibly

fire lock struggled to kill the dclone( probably because its fire resistent)
but my cold sorc did plenty damage and kills it fast and easy

i have plenty of statue sets but i dont think i have the right character to take down any uber

i tried to help a friend take down lilth we were all sorcs, went brutally bad for us, just not enough space to move around like youd want for such squishy builds

My abysslock takes them all down in just a few minutes now

Any specialized gear as mentioned ?

I like my fire lock and takes down all hell tz bosses very easy I just don’t want to waste the set if I can’t feel like I can’t do it
And I hear the ancients are the hardest of the Ubers

Or care to share a screen shot or run down of your gear?

ok soon as i got home there was an open invite to help with them, i got smashed hard and fast

I'm with @varangium , almost halfway to 99 and not trying to lose XP, but right at 98 I took down ancients a couple of times with my Chains/ Abyss/Demon lock. All done in under 2 min, I'm sure. A good demon is #1, gear is #2, and then just learning to focus them down very quickly with chains.

What Abysslock gear do you have? I have zero experience with fire.

ars Mephisto w Um
Void
Caster Boots and Belt for the res
29 maras
7/7 helwardens with Um
2 Stone of jordan rings
skiller grand charms and small charm with res

lost my hepisto in that first encounter with the ancients and there was 2 others in there with me all got dusted
im on the low end of 94 so dont care about dieing other than losing my monster

richhtx wrote: 9 hours ago

Rhaegar86 wrote: 10 hours ago

richhtx wrote: 19 hours ago

can the warlock,fire or Abyss, take ubers down?
or the ancients ?
hes my only character that i feel has a chance possibly

fire lock struggled to kill the dclone( probably because its fire resistent)
but my cold sorc did plenty damage and kills it fast and easy

i have plenty of statue sets but i dont think i have the right character to take down any uber

i tried to help a friend take down lilth we were all sorcs, went brutally bad for us, just not enough space to move around like youd want for such squishy builds

My abysslock takes them all down in just a few minutes now

Any specialized gear as mentioned ?

I like my fire lock and takes down all hell tz bosses very easy I just don’t want to waste the set if I can’t feel like I can’t do it
And I hear the ancients are the hardest of the Ubers

Or care to share a screen shot or run down of your gear?

I would go fire lock over Nova sorc all day vs ubers and mini ubers (although I have yet to test this). I only do mini-ubers with my Nova sorc. I think she would have trouble with Uber Mephisto, but haven't tried or done ubers at all since RoTW.

The gear for the mini-ubers is as follows (high level):
- 2x SOJ, Frostburn, to maximize the mana from Energy Shield
- viper magi, Infinity Scythe, griffons, Arachnid Mesh (all standard)
- 2/10 FCR ammy that is a holdover from my normal setup which uses Magefist to hit the 105 fcr breakpoint, but you can just use mara's, as against mini ubers, I only go for the 63 fcr breakpoint so that I can wear Frostburn to max mana Energy Shield defense.
- Caster Boots that are a holdover from my normal setup, but Sandstorm Trek is just as good / more optimized for this use case.
- skillers, mana life charms, mana magic find charms, poison life charms that are carryovers from my normal setup.

So on the sorc herself, everything standard except FB over Magefist to max mana - that's all I swap out. The specialized part is on the merc.

- jeweler's Tiara of life everlasting with 3 sols, for 44 integer damage reduction (46 is max possible)
- gladiator's bane socketed with Sol for another 27 integer damage reduction, 71 total. Gladiator's bane has other nice attributes - cannot be frozen, magic damage reduction, faster hit recovery, poison length reduced by 50%, high defense. I find my merc does better with this versus Duriel and Izual than other armors as well like CoH or Fortitude.
- Eth reaper's toll with Um rune for open wounds

Pre-buff the merc and the sorc with a bunch of antidote potions for +50% poison res, +10% max poison res.

Reaper's toll casts Decrepify, which essentially lowers Lilith's physical damage output by 75% (50% reduce attack speed, 50% reduced damage), and also has the less important benefit that she takes 50% more physical damage. This is Key, a 75% reduction in enemy physical damage (and 50% in non physical by way of the attack slow) is MASSIVE.

Why am I focused on integer damage reduction? Because her poison spray is so powerful. It does 40 physical and 40 poison damage PER PIXEL COLLISON. And it does 2x damage versus the merc, so 80 and 80. With antidote potions you get 85% poison res, so it reduces the merc poison damage to 12 per collision. Before Decrepify is triggered (and it only lasts a few seconds so there will be times in the battle it is not on), the 71 integer damage reduction reduces the physical per pixel collision down to 9 per, and when Decrepify is on it completely negates the whole physical component. When Decrepify on her main physical attack is reduced from 500 to 250, and at half speed.

It's still a tough battle, but she has never killed me with this setup. If she has witches around her casting amp damage I try to take those out first before engaging her.

Note - now that rings of Sigil Lethargy exist, it's possible you could do a setup that doesn't use Decrepify, because you can slow the attack speed by 50% with the ring, so you only lose half of the benefit. Also, open wounds may not be necessary since regen doesn't start for 8 frames (75 fcr is 9 frames). Of course then you lose 1 soj on your mana pool. But you could potentially have merc wield Insight for the massive mana regen which would be nice.

Also note that it's possible you could get a similar result with % damage gear reduction, but that only takes you down to 40 physical damage per pixel collision on your merc, which is more than 4x the 9 you get with the integer damage reduction setup. I think I may have tried this and it didn't really work.

richhtx wrote: 8 hours ago

ars Mephisto w Um
Void
Caster Boots and Belt for the res
29 maras
7/7 helwardens with Um
2 Stone of jordan rings
skiller grand charms and small charm with res

lost my hepisto in that first encounter with the ancients and there was 2 others in there with me all got dusted
im on the low end of 94 so dont care about dieing other than losing my monster

I'm currently using an Abyss warlock for the Uber Ancients. The thing that really helped me was grabbing one of the 'immune to everything' pit lords from the Furnace of Pain. I put an Um'd Kira's on my A1 merc along with Treachery and just stack a bunch of res charms along with another Kira's on my warlock.
When they enter their enraged phase I have to use a couple of pots, but as long as you separate them and Abyss + chains them it isn't too bad.