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+3 Bow/Crossbow Grand Matron Bow...do I trade as is, or risk the socket roll myself?

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Hi Folks,

Found a +3 Bow/
Crossbow
Grand Matron Bow
.
I'm pretty new to the game (i.e., poor), so am wondering if I should try to trade as is and let someone else take the risk in socketing it, or if I should try it myself with the risk of it becoming junk.

Any thoughts are appreciated!
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Hi Folks,

Found a +3 Bow/
Crossbow
Grand Matron Bow
.
I'm pretty new to the game (i.e., poor), so am wondering if I should try to trade as is and let someone else take the risk in socketing it, or if I should try it myself with the risk of it becoming junk.

Any thoughts are appreciated!
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Im not fully certain of it but doubt the +3 skills alone is enough? I could be wrong. Last time I found one of these someone told me it wasnt worth anything with just the 3 skills.
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leox 165

Paladin Asia PC
direct sell to market,
Pul
-
Um
. (2-3 pa to sell in 3 day, 4-6 pa to sell in 4-20 day)

if you roll, and 4 os , it is only
Lo
. socket 1 2 3 5 = 0

Favor
Perfect Amethyst
over
Perfect Skull
...
These days, I don't need that much
Perfect Skull
, it is less encourage to pay in
Perfect Skull
but it will treat slightly better than
Perfect Gems
.
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You need it to be 4 open sockets to be valuable.
That's a typical Faith base.

Don't use
Larzuk
quest to make it socketable because it's going to be max sockets, so 5.

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
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oOKIWIOo 1322

Paladin Europe PC
With my experience in trying to get the right amount of sockets by cubing I advice selling it 😉 - especially if you do not already have acquired some Wealth.

After a 20 year break from D2 I started playing D2R in 2024 with my sons (9 and 10 years old)
Time Zone: UTC/GMT +1/+2 (Germany)
Online workdays: casually from 07:00-09:00 pm
Online weekends: casually midday to evening
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
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Gl selling this with no socket. Its going to take ages for a handful of
Perfect Gems
.

If cubed, chances to get 4 (like 1 to 3) sockets is 1/6 while 5 sockets is 2/6.

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
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5 sockets can still be used for a Mist bow, which is pretty good for a cheap
Cham
rune.

Best bow for an Act 1 Rogue if you don't need her for a
Fanaticism
aura and still one of the best bows for a Bowazon, along with Faith and
Windforce
.

I would always risk a cube roll when I find a +3 bow. Doesn't cost much.

ElSolDolLol

For low items I also accept: Perfect Amys,
Ral
,
Hel
, Tokens, Keys. Please don't offer runes lower than
Pul
(with the named exceptions).

NO PM OFFERS PLEASE! BE FAIR AND WRITE INTO THE THREAD :)
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DasNarf wrote: 3 months ago
5 sockets can still be used for a Mist bow, which is pretty good for a cheap
Cham
rune.
5 sockets value is close to no socket value.

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
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3 sockets can sometimes be sold too (sold one 2 days ago), low value but better than 1 or 2 os ;)
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User avatar

fredkid 1877

Amazon Americas PC
I would use cube to add sockets and keep/sell if it rolls 4 or 5 sockets (or 3 - for Hustle - if you are ladder... not may case... )

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
----
Equivalence for trades:
Ist
= 1 =
Token of Absolution
= 20
Perfect Gems

Pul
=0.25 |
Um
=0.5|
Mal
=0.75
Gul
=1.5|
Vex
=2 |
Ohm
=3 |
Lo
=4 |
Sur
=5
Ber
=9 |
Jah
=12 |
Cham
=3 |
Zod
= 4
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Take the risk, that's the fun!

Usually looking for Runes, Essences, PGems, Tokens, Keys, etc.
Always willing to discuss and negotiate :)

Check out my "Free Stuff" tab for...FREE STUFF!
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User avatar

leox 165

Paladin Asia PC
direct sell is better .

cube cost is pa
Ral
Amn
which is around 2
Perfect Amethyst


1-2 = 0
3 very hard sell , if sell 1 pa which you cant get back cost
4 very good roll,
Lo
around 28 pa
5 if you want quick sell, it is likely 4 pa

socket case 1 2 3 5 is very difficult sell. it take long time and will occupy your storage 8.

4 socket case, if you want quick sell, it is
Ohm
, 20 pa , according to previous people calculation, 1/6 chance to get roll 4.

if you believe statistical calc , take risk
if you are unlucky in most case, go direct sell 2-3 pa it is almost equal to you take risk.

Favor
Perfect Amethyst
over
Perfect Skull
...
These days, I don't need that much
Perfect Skull
, it is less encourage to pay in
Perfect Skull
but it will treat slightly better than
Perfect Gems
.
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I'd risk cubing it, if you want to get 4 sockets.
Larzuk
can help you with 5 sockets. Right before you click the cube button make sure you
Shout
from the bottom of your lungs "Four! Four!! Four!!!"
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User avatar

oOKIWIOo 1322

Paladin Europe PC
bigbikefan wrote: 3 months ago
Right before you click the cube button make sure you
Shout
from the bottom of your lungs "Four! Four!! Four!!!"
That is indeed the most important advice so far 😁

After a 20 year break from D2 I started playing D2R in 2024 with my sons (9 and 10 years old)
Time Zone: UTC/GMT +1/+2 (Germany)
Online workdays: casually from 07:00-09:00 pm
Online weekends: casually midday to evening
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
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leox wrote: 3 months ago
cube cost is pa
Ral

Amn
which is around 2
Perfect Amethyst
Not really.
Ist
= 7 pame
Ist
= 20
Ral

Ist
= 20
Amn


So
Ral
+
Amn
is less than 1 pame.

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
7
User avatar

leox 165

Paladin Asia PC
Tornado_OLO wrote: 3 months ago
leox wrote: 3 months ago
cube cost is pa
Ral

Amn
which is around 2
Perfect Amethyst
Not really.
Ist
= 7 pame
Ist
= 20
Ral

Ist
= 20
Amn


So
Ral
+
Amn
is less than 1 pame.
Yes, you are right about this . This is accuracy cal.
Cost = 1.66 pa (1 pa + 0.33 pa
Ral
+ 0.33 pa
Amn
)

4 socket case, 1/6 chance x 21 pa = 3.5 it is almost same to sold bow with 2 pa and 1.66 cost for cube 4 os case.

Of course, if you can manage long term sell, 1 week+ , 4os bow has reasonable 1
Ist
gain.

on the other aspect, if you can sell 0os bow around 3-5 pa, it will be definitely win , even if 4 os bow sell for week, cant beat this short time sell(statically, 0-3 5 os chance include) .

Favor
Perfect Amethyst
over
Perfect Skull
...
These days, I don't need that much
Perfect Skull
, it is less encourage to pay in
Perfect Skull
but it will treat slightly better than
Perfect Gems
.
7
User avatar

leox 165

Paladin Asia PC
The problem of this bow is it occupy too many space, 8. And sell period is very long for 1 2 3 5 socket.

The reasonable keep item flow is around 2 week time in storage.

if lucky enough to roll 4 os, it is definitely win.

Favor
Perfect Amethyst
over
Perfect Skull
...
These days, I don't need that much
Perfect Skull
, it is less encourage to pay in
Perfect Skull
but it will treat slightly better than
Perfect Gems
.
7
Selling it is not worth the effort, IMO. I say cube it. Especially if you would actually use it.

You have a 20% chance of getting something usable/sellable. I say that + the rush is worth more than a few pgems.

GMT-3
I only play softcore, non-ladder.

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> Free sunder charms <
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User avatar

fredkid 1877

Amazon Americas PC
Personally, I don't buy 0 socket bases, unless
Larzuk
would give me the number of sockets I want (which is always the max sockets for the base).
For the same reason, I rarely put to sell 0 socket bases whose max sockets isn't usefull... (On those cases I
Charsi
them or risk add sockets with the cube if it could be valuable - like an ethereal
Mancatcher
or this
Grand Matron Bow
3 bow sk 😉)

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
----
Equivalence for trades:
Ist
= 1 =
Token of Absolution
= 20
Perfect Gems

Pul
=0.25 |
Um
=0.5|
Mal
=0.75
Gul
=1.5|
Vex
=2 |
Ohm
=3 |
Lo
=4 |
Sur
=5
Ber
=9 |
Jah
=12 |
Cham
=3 |
Zod
= 4
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human_being wrote: 3 months ago
Selling it is not worth the effort, IMO. I say cube it. Especially if you would actually use it.

You have a 20% chance of getting something usable/sellable. I say that + the rush is worth more than a few pgems.
I think it would be 16.6% chance at 4 sockets. Dice rolls 1-6 and if it rolls 5 or 6, you get 5 sockets in this case since it can't roll 6 sockets. So basically a 1/6 chance at 1-4 sockets, and a 2/6 chance at 5 sockets.

That said, 5 socket is usable, so if you look at it that way, it's a 50/50 on not being completely useless!

Usually looking for Runes, Essences, PGems, Tokens, Keys, etc.
Always willing to discuss and negotiate :)

Check out my "Free Stuff" tab for...FREE STUFF!
Before adding me on bnet, please comment on the trade so I know who you are!
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