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I’m going to try dial Doom barb for fun. I realize this pretty much makes it impossible to Hork. But, I have a question, or a few…

Should I go
Whirlwind
or
Frenzy
?

For merc, Infinity? Or Pride? Or even reaper’s toll?

Nightwing veil? Or arreat’s face?
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I’m going to try dial Doom barb for fun. I realize this pretty much makes it impossible to Hork. But, I have a question, or a few…

Should I go
Whirlwind
or
Frenzy
?

For merc, Infinity? Or Pride? Or even reaper’s toll?

Nightwing veil? Or arreat’s face?
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Why dual and not single ?
Damage from aura is negligeable.

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
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marl71 255

Americas PC
The cold damage is going to be very low because you don't have
Holy Freeze
synergies or
Cold Mastery
, so I would stick to physical damage gear

Maxroll says the pulse damage is going to be ~100 (~50 x 2 items equipped), and the cold damage added to each attack is ~250. That's <5% of your overall damage for
Frenzy
. If you get good rolls on the -enemy cold res, and you only farm areas without cold immunes, then you double that damage, but that's still not a lot

Perfect nightwings gets your damage to ~680. At best, adding Infinity on top can get your cold damage vs. non-immunes up to...680, because enemy cold resistance can't go lower than -100. On the other hand, most cold immunes can't be broken by Infinity, so it also doesn't help you there

But if you run gface and reaper's toll merc instead, you are boosting your much stronger physical damage

I guess
Frenzy
makes more sense, because you can proc
Volcano
. Again not much damage, but fun

That's my guess, but hope you try it and hope it's a blast
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vued 939

Sorceress Europe PC
If you, despite all sanity, want to go down the cold path, you can can consider replacing one of your Doom weapons with Rift and cast lvl 21 frozen orbs. Then, go with Nightwing and maybe a 20/20 cold armor.
You can further stack lots of cold damage charms. Nobody else uses them so they will be cheap - you just need to find people who pick them up and sell them to you. Infinity on Merc obviously.

Will it be good? No. Will it be fun? Yes! At least for a short time.
Fireball
barb was the most fun I had with d2r. For about 5 minutes.

I've got on SCNL
- Mosaics, Cures, and Hustles
- GG crafted amulets
- Perfect uniques
- Bases
=> member/vued/
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TheDoo 558

Europe PC
I did this little comparison some time ago, don't know if it will help you but there you go :D
I would say go for it and write us your impressions (as it is something that interests me as well to try one day!) :)

Note: all of those dmgs are vs Dummy on maxroll which I usually don't do (I almost always try to 'test' dmg vs Hell Diablo/
Baal
)

IIRC I did put the
Nightwing's Veil
on that Cold Barb :)

P.S. Resistances are without any res SCs and with the min. Torch and Anni (I also always do the minimum rolls on everything because that's more accurate/meaningful/relevant then -- you'll always have at least those values).
P.P.S. They are all done with FULL Fire/Cold/Lightning gear as in all Holy runewords for that element if possible and all other stuff to maximize dmg. Some changes would probably make them even more powerful or at least more balanced (for example Chains of Honor instead of Dragon in some Fire cases, or using Enigma for tele, etc.) but I oriented mainly on pushing that elemental dmg and even with that, as you can see, many of them still do Physical more than anything else...

Ma neeeeeeema veeeeeeeze! xd

Someone much smarter than me already said once: "The real value of something doesn't reflect in a number of how much a seller can ask for it, but on how much a buyer is willing to pay."
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fredkid 1877

Amazon Americas PC

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion
----
Equivalence for trades:
Ist
= 1 =
Token of Absolution
= 20
Perfect Gems

Pul
=0.25 |
Um
=0.5|
Mal
=0.75
Gul
=1.5|
Vex
=2 |
Ohm
=3 |
Lo
=4 |
Sur
=5
Ber
=9 |
Jah
=12 |
Cham
=3 |
Zod
= 4
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uuee 265

Europe PC
I'd say there is no point in using 2xdoomBA for pvm. If you really need the HF aura; 2xgriefPB still does way more dmg with a HF merc than 2xdoomBA with a might merc. On top of that: No constant repairs, max speed
Berserk
, much more ias stack vs decrep curse, lower costs.
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uuee wrote: 2 months ago
I'd say there is no point in using 2xdoomBA for pvm. If you really need the HF aura; 2xgriefPB still does way more dmg with a HF merc than 2xdoomBA with a might merc. On top of that: No constant repairs, max speed
Berserk
, much more ias stack vs decrep curse, lower costs.
Not sure his intention is to compete with dual Grief...

My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
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TheDoo 558

Europe PC
uuee wrote: 2 months ago
I'd say there is no point in using 2xdoomBA for pvm. If you really need the HF aura; 2xgriefPB still does way more dmg with a HF merc than 2xdoomBA with a might merc. On top of that: No constant repairs, max speed
Berserk
, much more ias stack vs decrep curse, lower costs.
But doesn't that beats the purpose? I think OP was looking to make a Cold Barb not a boring 99% double Grief one (that everyone use) :D I might be wrong here because I get way too excited whenever I see someone having an idea about some niche off-meta build (not even plain off-meta but also something completely different).

Ma neeeeeeema veeeeeeeze! xd

Someone much smarter than me already said once: "The real value of something doesn't reflect in a number of how much a seller can ask for it, but on how much a buyer is willing to pay."
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uuee 265

Europe PC
TheDoo wrote: 2 months ago
uuee wrote: 2 months ago
I'd say there is no point in using 2xdoomBA for pvm. If you really need the HF aura; 2xgriefPB still does way more dmg with a HF merc than 2xdoomBA with a might merc. On top of that: No constant repairs, max speed
Berserk
, much more ias stack vs decrep curse, lower costs.
But doesn't that beats the purpose? I think OP was looking to make a Cold Barb not a boring 99% double Grief one (that everyone use) :D I might be wrong here because I get way too excited whenever I see someone having an idea about some niche off-meta build (not even plain off-meta but also something completely different).
The reason why "Cold barb" as a purpose doesn't work was already explained by @marl71, so I just told him a more effective way to have HF :P

IMO off meta is not sg. that could be built much more effectively, just something that we rarely see because other variants off the class are more popular (like a fire trapper or any kind of bear...)
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TheDoo 558

Europe PC
uuee wrote: 2 months ago
TheDoo wrote: 2 months ago
uuee wrote: 2 months ago
I'd say there is no point in using 2xdoomBA for pvm. If you really need the HF aura; 2xgriefPB still does way more dmg with a HF merc than 2xdoomBA with a might merc. On top of that: No constant repairs, max speed
Berserk
, much more ias stack vs decrep curse, lower costs.
But doesn't that beats the purpose? I think OP was looking to make a Cold Barb not a boring 99% double Grief one (that everyone use) :D I might be wrong here because I get way too excited whenever I see someone having an idea about some niche off-meta build (not even plain off-meta but also something completely different).
The reason why "Cold barb" as a purpose doesn't work was already explained by @marl71, so I just told him a more effective way to have HF :P

IMO off meta is not sg. that could be built much more effectively, just something that we rarely see because other variants off the class are more popular (like a fire trapper or any kind of bear...)

Weeeeell, from my own experience it wouldn't be THAT bad. Yes you don't get the synergies thus lowering everything drastically, but I just put in my Ice Pala ranger on maxroll and it turns out he had about 7.4k dps (of which 6k was Cold) vs Dummy (even if I was using [which I really don't think I was but it was a long time ago] self
Holy Freeze
+ Infinity + Ice which is a way stronger option, it would still do about 17k dps of which 15.2k would be Cold) and my table says that dual Doom
Frenzy
Cold Barb should have around 28k (of which 3.8k should be Cold) just to put things in a perspective. :) And I went thru whole game without much issues with my ranger Pali, ofc it was on players 1 because I mostly play solo on online nl. I even did DClone twice which did took a lot of time and a stash full of rejuvs to do, but it wasn't impossible... :D

But yeah, I can see your point to some extent. :)

Ma neeeeeeema veeeeeeeze! xd

Someone much smarter than me already said once: "The real value of something doesn't reflect in a number of how much a seller can ask for it, but on how much a buyer is willing to pay."
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