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Seen trades on the forums many times and is shocked how oblivious new players are about the value of HRs.

Plagiarizing the format of https://www.reddit.com/r/slashdiablo/co ... une_worth/, but things obviously are not quite the same.

The key thing to understand is that runes don't always trade at cube ratio (but getting closer to it over time, with the exceptions of
Lo
/
Sur
and
Jah
/
Cham
). Cubing 2 x
Gul
to
Vex
and 2 x
Cham
to
Zod
is fine, 2x
Sur
to
Ber
is popular and possibly one of the best ways to get a
Ber
.

Don't let the number intimate you, think all HRs in
Ist
's. In D2 trading world an
Ist
is like a dollar.
Expand to see original launch prices
Lem
= 1/12
Ist

Pul
= 2
Lem
= 1/6
Ist

Um
= 2
Pul
= 1/3
Ist

Mal
=
Um
+
Pul
= 1/2
Ist

Ist
(base currency)
Gul
= 1/2
Vex
= 1.75
Ist

Vex
= 2
Gul
= 3
Ist
+
Mal
= 3.5
Ist

Ohm
= 2
Vex
= 7
Ist

Lo
= 2
Ohm
= 14
Ist

Sur
=
Lo
+ 3
Ist
= 17
Ist

Ber
= 2
Sur
= 34
Ist

Jah
=
Ber
-
Vex
= 30.5
Ist

Cham
= 4
Ist

Zod
= 2
Cham
= 8
Ist
Necrarch wrote: 1 year ago
This one ^ being completely out of date, here is an update on the runes value on Non ladder, SC, PC, with high runes being super cheap now (June 12 2023):

For ladder, prices fluctuate a lot at start (wity typically
Ber
/
Lo
/
Ohm
/
Vex
being expensive) then converge to NL prices towards end of season.

Pul
- 2 x
Lem

Um
-
Pul
+
Lem

Mal
-
Um
+
Pul

Ist
-
Mal
+
Um
-
Ist
is the "unit"
Gul
-
Ist
+
Mal

Vex
- 3
Ist

Ohm
- 4-5
Ist

Lo
- 5-6
Ist

Sur
- 7-8
Ist

Ber
- 10-11
Ist

Jah
- 15-20
Ist

Cham
- about same as
Vex
to
Ohm

Zod
- about same as
Lo
to
Sur


Do remember that the prices fluctuate : click on each rune to check its latest trades for current value.
Your mileage will vary, but a fair trade should not deviate too far off these numbers unless you are making a conscious choice. Generally, people seek a healthy profit when they are not in a hurry (no longer the case as HRs are recently in higher demand), but multiple
Ist
's profits particularly targeted at obvious new players are just predatory.

Occasionally you'll run into sick people when trading HRs on BN who ask you to Ctrl+Click on the rune (which is a short cut for drop item on the Ground). Those are the lowest form scammers who sell runes on eBay and never do what they told you to!

Finding an HR from the monster drop is like winning a mini lottery, so don't fall for those complicated packages that are designed to trick you!
Description by Teebling
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Seen trades on the forums many times and is shocked how oblivious new players are about the value of HRs.

Plagiarizing the format of https://www.reddit.com/r/slashdiablo/co ... une_worth/, but things obviously are not quite the same.

The key thing to understand is that runes don't always trade at cube ratio (but getting closer to it over time, with the exceptions of
Lo
/
Sur
and
Jah
/
Cham
). Cubing 2 x
Gul
to
Vex
and 2 x
Cham
to
Zod
is fine, 2x
Sur
to
Ber
is popular and possibly one of the best ways to get a
Ber
.

Don't let the number intimate you, think all HRs in
Ist
's. In D2 trading world an
Ist
is like a dollar.
Expand to see original launch prices
Lem
= 1/12
Ist

Pul
= 2
Lem
= 1/6
Ist

Um
= 2
Pul
= 1/3
Ist

Mal
=
Um
+
Pul
= 1/2
Ist

Ist
(base currency)
Gul
= 1/2
Vex
= 1.75
Ist

Vex
= 2
Gul
= 3
Ist
+
Mal
= 3.5
Ist

Ohm
= 2
Vex
= 7
Ist

Lo
= 2
Ohm
= 14
Ist

Sur
=
Lo
+ 3
Ist
= 17
Ist

Ber
= 2
Sur
= 34
Ist

Jah
=
Ber
-
Vex
= 30.5
Ist

Cham
= 4
Ist

Zod
= 2
Cham
= 8
Ist
Necrarch wrote: 1 year ago
This one ^ being completely out of date, here is an update on the runes value on Non ladder, SC, PC, with high runes being super cheap now (June 12 2023):

For ladder, prices fluctuate a lot at start (wity typically
Ber
/
Lo
/
Ohm
/
Vex
being expensive) then converge to NL prices towards end of season.

Pul
- 2 x
Lem

Um
-
Pul
+
Lem

Mal
-
Um
+
Pul

Ist
-
Mal
+
Um
-
Ist
is the "unit"
Gul
-
Ist
+
Mal

Vex
- 3
Ist

Ohm
- 4-5
Ist

Lo
- 5-6
Ist

Sur
- 7-8
Ist

Ber
- 10-11
Ist

Jah
- 15-20
Ist

Cham
- about same as
Vex
to
Ohm

Zod
- about same as
Lo
to
Sur


Do remember that the prices fluctuate : click on each rune to check its latest trades for current value.
Your mileage will vary, but a fair trade should not deviate too far off these numbers unless you are making a conscious choice. Generally, people seek a healthy profit when they are not in a hurry (no longer the case as HRs are recently in higher demand), but multiple
Ist
's profits particularly targeted at obvious new players are just predatory.

Occasionally you'll run into sick people when trading HRs on BN who ask you to Ctrl+Click on the rune (which is a short cut for drop item on the Ground). Those are the lowest form scammers who sell runes on eBay and never do what they told you to!

Finding an HR from the monster drop is like winning a mini lottery, so don't fall for those complicated packages that are designed to trick you!
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BillyMaysed 2258Moderator

Sorceress Americas PC
I love this! May i put this into my New Players Guide to help people? Who's name should i credit exactly?

Edit: I have put this at the top in Trade Value Guides (Runes, Torches, Keys, Charms, Sets, Uniques, Bases & Magic Items). Thanks for your hard work!

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OP
BillyMaysed wrote: 3 years ago
I love this! May i put this into my New Players Guide to help people? Who's name should i credit exactly?
Feel free to include this public knowledge just don't omit the disclaimers :)
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BillyMaysed 2258Moderator

Sorceress Americas PC
Morphin wrote: 3 years ago
BillyMaysed wrote: 3 years ago
I love this! May i put this into my New Players Guide to help people? Who's name should i credit exactly?
Feel free to include this public knowledge just don't omit the disclaimers :)
Yes i always put the important notes at the top of each section. Sometimes the notes/disclaimers are more important than the actual specific info lol.

So i shouldn't credit anyone specifically? I don't like to cannibalize things without giving credit where its due.

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OP
BillyMaysed wrote: 3 years ago
Morphin wrote: 3 years ago
BillyMaysed wrote: 3 years ago
I love this! May i put this into my New Players Guide to help people? Who's name should i credit exactly?
Feel free to include this public knowledge just don't omit the disclaimers :)
Yes i always put the important notes at the top of each section. Sometimes the notes/disclaimers are more important than the actual specific info lol.

So i shouldn't credit anyone specifically? I don't like to cannibalize things without giving credit where its due.
Well I did write this and I don't mind being credited :D
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OP
added a anti scam tip as well
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Great write up, my only feedback is do you really think
Lo
is worth more than
Sur
?

Lo
for me would be somewhere between
Ohm
and
Sur
.
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BillyMaysed 2258Moderator

Sorceress Americas PC
MagnusN wrote: 3 years ago
Great write up, my only feedback is do you really think
Lo
is worth more than
Sur
?
Lo
is definitely worth more than
Sur
.
Sur
is essentially useless until it is transmuted with another
Sur
.

Being able to make both Grief and Fortitude makes
Lo
essentially the most sought after HR.
Jah
,
Ber
and
Lo
are the biggies.

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BillyMaysed wrote: 3 years ago
Sur
is essentially useless until it is transmuted with another
Sur
.
Yeah I agree, but still you get half a
Ber
with
Sur
, which is what many want for Enigma and Infinity! No doubt
Lo
is worth a lot but more then
Sur
I am not sure. Guess that is what makes trading fun, that you have different views. :)
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User avatar

BillyMaysed 2258Moderator

Sorceress Americas PC
MagnusN wrote: 3 years ago
Yeah I agree, but still you get half a
Ber
with
Sur
, which is what many want for Enigma and Infinity! No doubt
Lo
is worth a lot but more then
Sur
I am not sure. Guess that is what makes trading fun, that you have different views. :)
ya but its all about having/getting that 2nd
Sur
to make
Ber
. What if you get stuck for a long ass time trying to find one or trade for one? Then your one
Sur
is useless. VS a
Lo
you can use immediately to make Grief or Fort since its the hardest part to get.

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And I guess that might also depend on what chars you play. To physical/melee focused players
Lo
can be worth more since they aim for both Grief/Fortitude. And for caster mainly players you go for Enigma/Infinity. That might influence how you feel about their value! :)
7
Looked at some old trades, you are correct,
Lo
tops
Sur
a bit. :)
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BillyMaysed 2258Moderator

Sorceress Americas PC
MagnusN wrote: 3 years ago
Looked at some old trades, you are correct,
Lo
tops
Sur
a bit. :)
i LOVE using the site to price check stuff :D. Saved me a lot so far. Almost gave some GG stuff away lel

7
OP
MagnusN wrote: 3 years ago
And I guess that might also depend on what chars you play. To physical/melee focused players
Lo
can be worth more since they aim for both Grief/Fortitude. And for caster mainly players you go for Enigma/Infinity. That might influence how you feel about their value! :)
Yeah it's all situational, 1-2 weeks ago equal trades between
Lo
and
Sur
were common, even between
Jah
and
Ber
. Now
Sur
and
Jah
are clearly falling behind in recent trades. I guess is that people really wanted Enigma in the first rush, now that many already have it they now need to beef up their mercs with a Fortitude (speaking as a caster which is the most popular choice early in the progression). Enigma base is also far easier to find than an
Eth
armor with 800+ defense.

My views are certainly caster biased but from what I observe so is the market. Which is why my next char will be a Druid (bargains everywhere!)

You do need to take everything I said with a grain of salt, but the main point is here to save newbies from the disappointment of trading their hard-earned
Ber
with a pile of 12-13
Ist
crap :)
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Teebling 6847Admin

Europe PC
@BillyMaysed a link to @Morphin's guide/adaptation of the guide could also be put into the appropriate Price Check topic for runes if he agrees.

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OP
Teebling wrote: 3 years ago
@BillyMaysed a link to @Morphin's guide/adaptation of the guide could also be put into the appropriate Price Check topic for runes if he agrees.
That'd be my pleasure. The more people see this the fairer the community will be.
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User avatar

BillyMaysed 2258Moderator

Sorceress Americas PC
Morphin wrote: 3 years ago
That'd be my pleasure. The more people see this the fairer the community will be.
We about to have the smartest D2 community on the interwebs. :D

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User avatar

wale 39

Druid PC
Solid guide, imo would be great if a bot auto replied with that guideline for any rune trade. Prevent hosing newer players who just found a
Ber
and think "omg someone offering me a
Zod
which is rarer for it!"
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Sur
itself values 1ist less than
Lo
. in past several weeks
2Lo=
Ber
(still going this way)
1Lo=
Sur
+
Ist
(go up to
Gul
during weekend)
but other than that, great guide
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bemelle87 wrote: 3 years ago
Sur
itself values 1ist less than
Lo
. in past several weeks
2Lo=
Ber
(still going this way)
1Lo=
Sur
+
Ist
(go up to
Gul
during weekend)
but other than that, great guide
With
Lo
=
Sur
+
Ist
,
Ber
= 2
Lo
makes no sense at all.
The rune exchanges in here are getting ridiculous and I'm actually starting to call out any trade that tries to rip off players.
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