cold sorc is just a bit slow

feeling really slow with my blizzard sorc compared to my fire lock

any faster cold builds?
how does Fireball sorc compare?

not sure i want to do Nova sorc tho

I'm in the same boat as you. I use my blizz sorc for Andy or meph and sometimes elite farming.

I tried Fireball and I felt it is slow because its one target at a time.

Same with Nova, I don't feel it too hehe! but it's supposed to be faster.

I always wanted to do a Frost Nova sorc.
Looks funny.

Fire Warlock is sick and overpowered. End of discussion.

Blizzard Sorc is in a good spot, tho. Fireball/ Hydra is stronger and faster, but also a lot more squishy and lacking any crowd control the cold Sorc has to offer.

I enjoy both builds a lot, and wished the developers would balance classes around those two.

Nova is very strong, possibly the most powerful Sorceress build available, but she's paying a high price: Fighting heralds can become a suicide mission. You will hate all kinds of archers! Blizz and Hydra Sorcs can either freeze them in place or just hide behind a corner and let the Hydras do the job, where the Nova has to engage melee range...

From a gameplay perspective, those three are perfectly balanced:

Blizzard: Safest but weakest.
Fire: Medium safety and damage.
Nova: Highest damage but lowest safety.

Fireball + Hydra sorc is very fast and strong. fast enough to get to 99 on /p1

DasNarf wrote: 1 hour ago

Fire Warlock is sick and overpowered. End of discussion.

Blizzard Sorc is in a good spot, tho. Fireball/ Hydra is stronger and faster, but also a lot more squishy and lacking any crowd control the cold Sorc has to offer.

I enjoy both builds a lot, and wished the developers would balance classes around those two.

Nova is very strong, but she's paying a price: Fighting heralds can become a suicide mission. You will hate all kinds of archers! Blizz and Hydra Sorcs can either freeze them in place or just hide behind a corner and let the Hydras do the job.

i hate the archers no matter what lol

my cold sorc even with all res maxed, including higher res on cold over 75 maxed still takes way to much damage for my liking

ganseng wrote: 1 hour ago

Fireball + Hydra sorc is very fast and strong. fast enough to get to 99 on /p1

ive got a 19 fsd eschuta with 3 to all skills for a fire build
heard mixed feelings about Hydra
tho i have a Wand with 5 to Hydra lol

might just respec this weekend and test the waters

masterlegend wrote: 1 hour ago

I'm in the same boat as you. I use my blizz sorc for Andy or meph and sometimes elite farming.

I tried Fireball and I felt it is slow because its one target at a time.

Same with Nova, I don't feel it too hehe! but it's supposed to be faster.

i thought Fireball exploded on impact and took out close enemies

richhtx wrote: 1 hour ago

heard mixed feelings about Hydra

Hydra is 18 x 5k fire damage plus 40k Meteor plus 20k Fireball with 8 frames cast rate plus a bit of afterburner. Those numbers are real.

DasNarf wrote: 1 hour ago

richhtx wrote: 1 hour ago

heard mixed feelings about Hydra

Hydra is 18 x 5k fire damage plus 40k Meteor plus 20k Fireball with 8 frames cast rate plus a bit of afterburner. Those numbers are real.

yes Meteor is slow tho higher damage than blizzard can ever reach
and ive read that hydras fire randomly
does anyone in endgame still use or need Static Field?

richhtx wrote: 1 hour ago

ganseng wrote: 1 hour ago

Fireball + Hydra sorc is very fast and strong. fast enough to get to 99 on /p1

ive got a 19 fsd eschuta with 3 to all skills for a fire build
heard mixed feelings about Hydra
tho i have a Wand with 5 to Hydra lol

might just respec this weekend and test the waters

i recommend using The Oculus. eschuta will give you only marginal dps boost, and you don't need the extra FCR if you use Spirit, Arachnid Mesh and Magefist. oculus provides substantially better defense through resistance, vitality and energy. teleporting on being hit is not that bad as you normally kill everything before you get hit

hydras are a valuable addition to Fireball when you need the extra firepower against bosses and heralds (they double your dps), and as standoff weapon e.g. to clear the gloams in WSK without exposing yourself to their fire

-enemy fire resist is essential, aim for -35 with sunder, uber jewel and Flickering Flame

richhtx wrote: 1 hour ago

DasNarf wrote: 1 hour ago

richhtx wrote: 1 hour ago

heard mixed feelings about Hydra

Hydra is 18 x 5k fire damage plus 40k Meteor plus 20k Fireball with 8 frames cast rate plus a bit of afterburner. Those numbers are real.

yes Meteor is slow tho higher damage than blizzard can ever reach
and ive read that hydras fire randomly
does anyone in endgame still use or need Static Field?

i never used it. tz Baal died in <3 seconds

hydras are best cast directly on high health large targets like Baal or diablo, then they will certainly hit the mark. they can be annoyingly inaccurate vs small moving targets, but for that Fireball normally suffices

Cold Sorc here (Blizzard, Glacial Spike and Ice Blast). Here is my build with which I do everything incl. DClone but except for Uber Tristram and Colossal Summit (all RES maxed, 105 FCR, 60 FHR). I could boost the single target damage further by only putting one point in Warmth and instead put them in Frozen Orb. But except for Baal I kill all bosses in no time, at least in P1 ( Baal is the only boss on which I use a few Static Field pulses )

1x Harlequin Crest with Rainbow Facet: Cold Death (-5/+5) OR Nightwing's Veil (+15) with Rainbow Facet: Cold Level-up (-5/+5)
1x Mara's Kaleidoscope (30)
1x The Stone of Jordan
1x Opalvein (+5/8/2/2)
1x Trang-Oul's Claws
1x War Traveler (50)
1x Chains of Honor in Archon Plate
1x Spirit in Monarch (35/111/7)
1x Death's Fathom (+30/33/33) with Protector's Frost (-10/+10)
1x Arachnid Mesh
6x Cold Skiller with 30-32TL
1x Renewed Cold Rupture (5FRW/-9TECR/66TM/-70CR/6MDR/22MF)
1x Gheed's Fortune (119/40/13)
7x SCs with 7MF (plain), can be swapped with Life/Mana SCs if I switch to Nightwing's Veil and do Cows or farm in P3+ games
1x SC 5FHR/8CR (to reach 60FHR and max CR)
1x Annihilus (20/20/7)
1x Hellfire Torch (18/20)

On Swap:
1x Call To Arms in Flail (4/6/4)
1x Spirit in Monarch (35/105/7)

A2 Prayer Merc:
1x Andariel's Visage with Ral
1x Fortitude in ethereal Sacred Armor (thinking about switching to Chains of Honor for more Aura boost)
1x Insight (lvl17) in non-ethereal Thresher

Stats with CTA ( Harlequin Crest)
Life: 2661
Mana: 1175
Faster Hit Recovery: 60
Faster Cast Rate: 105
Ice Blast: 6358-6517
Glacial Spike: 2659-2790
Blizzard: 12017-12449
To Enemy Cold Resistance: -259
Magic Find: 262

Stats with CTA ( Nightwing's Veil, same Charms)
Life: 2508
Mana: 1023
Faster Hit Recovery: 60
Faster Cast Rate: 105
Ice Blast: 7003-7177
Glacial Spike: 2929-3073
Blizzard: 13235-13711
To Enemy Cold Resistance: -259
Magic Find: 212

I also tried the cold sorc, and also did the 5/5 facet in a 15 Nightwing's Veil.. but that horned binface was too much to handle

She is very decent, yes. It just takes a while for those 13+k hits from blizzard to start hailing down. and 20+k fireballs & 5+k Hydra hits start raining down instantly

oOKIWIOo wrote: 43 minutes ago

Cold Sorc here (Blizzard, Glacial Spike and Ice Blast). Here is my build with which I do everything incl. DClone but except for Uber Tristram and Colossal Summit (all RES maxed, 105 FCR, 60 FHR). I could boost the single target damage further by only putting one point in Warmth and instead put them in Frozen Orb. But except for Baal I kill all bosses in no time, at least in P1 ( Baal is the only boss on which I use a few Static Field pulses )

1x Harlequin Crest with Rainbow Facet: Cold Death (-5/+5) OR Nightwing's Veil (+15) with Rainbow Facet: Cold Level-up (-5/+5)
1x Mara's Kaleidoscope (30)
1x The Stone of Jordan
1x Opalvein (+5/8/2/2)
1x Trang-Oul's Claws
1x War Traveler (50)
1x Chains of Honor in Archon Plate
1x Spirit in Monarch (35/111/7)
1x Death's Fathom (+30/33/33) with Protector's Frost (-10/+10)
1x Arachnid Mesh
6x Cold Skiller with 30-32TL
1x Renewed Cold Rupture (5FRW/-9TECR/66TM/-70CR/6MDR/22MF)
1x Gheed's Fortune (119/40/13)
7x SCs with 7MF (plain), can be swapped with Life/Mana SCs if I switch to Nightwing's Veil and do Cows or farm in P3+ games
1x SC 5FHR/8CR (to reach 60FHR and max CR)
1x Annihilus (20/20/7)
1x Hellfire Torch (18/20)

On Swap:
1x Call To Arms in Flail (4/6/4)
1x Spirit in Monarch (35/105/7)

A2 Prayer Merc:
1x Andariel's Visage with Ral
1x Fortitude in ethereal Sacred Armor (thinking about switching to Chains of Honor for more Aura boost)
1x Insight (lvl17) in non-ethereal Thresher

Stats with CTA ( Harlequin Crest)
Life: 2661
Mana: 1175
Faster Hit Recovery: 60
Faster Cast Rate: 105
Ice Blast: 6358-6517
Glacial Spike: 2659-2790
Blizzard: 12017-12449
To Enemy Cold Resistance: -259
Magic Find: 262

Stats with CTA ( Nightwing's Veil, same Charms)
Life: 2508
Mana: 1023
Faster Hit Recovery: 60
Faster Cast Rate: 105
Ice Blast: 7003-7177
Glacial Spike: 2929-3073
Blizzard: 13235-13711
To Enemy Cold Resistance: -259
Magic Find: 212