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Another theorycrafted sorc build. Maybe someone tried it out or wants to try it out?
Fire Bolt 20
fire ball 20
Warmth 20
Enchant 20
Fire Mastery 20
Frozen Armor 0-1
Teleport 1
Telekinesis 8-9
Flickering Flame
Dragon armor
Dragon Shield
Hand of Justice ( Phase Blade)
double horazon's
Mara's Kaleidoscope
Arachnid Mesh
2 soj or 2 double leech rings
Holy Fire aura will autokill most content. and enchanted/aura buffed rapid melee attack will annihilate bosses.
life/mana leech will sustain both life and Energy Shield (prebuffed with gear).. or maybe just keep double soj for more mana, Warmth and Fire Mastery?
and the best part: procced hydras will add ~1k dmg per hit. count doesn't seem to be capped at 6, so there will be a lot of hits
compared to dragondin, advantages are synergized hydras, much more melee dmg, rapid Teleport speed, and the Energy Shield. disadvantages are ~33% lower aura dmg output and Conviction
merc either Infinity emilio or Faith rogue or double Plague barb
thoughts?
Fire Bolt 20
fire ball 20
Warmth 20
Enchant 20
Fire Mastery 20
Frozen Armor 0-1
Teleport 1
Telekinesis 8-9
Flickering Flame
Dragon armor
Dragon Shield
Hand of Justice ( Phase Blade)
double horazon's
Mara's Kaleidoscope
Arachnid Mesh
2 soj or 2 double leech rings
Holy Fire aura will autokill most content. and enchanted/aura buffed rapid melee attack will annihilate bosses.
life/mana leech will sustain both life and Energy Shield (prebuffed with gear).. or maybe just keep double soj for more mana, Warmth and Fire Mastery?
and the best part: procced hydras will add ~1k dmg per hit. count doesn't seem to be capped at 6, so there will be a lot of hits
compared to dragondin, advantages are synergized hydras, much more melee dmg, rapid Teleport speed, and the Energy Shield. disadvantages are ~33% lower aura dmg output and Conviction
merc either Infinity emilio or Faith rogue or double Plague barb
thoughts?
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Another theorycrafted sorc build. Maybe someone tried it out or wants to try it out?
Fire Bolt 20
fire ball 20
Warmth 20
Enchant 20
Fire Mastery 20
Frozen Armor 0-1
Teleport 1
Telekinesis 8-9
Flickering Flame
Dragon armor
Dragon Shield
Hand of Justice ( Phase Blade)
double horazon's
Mara's Kaleidoscope
Arachnid Mesh
2 soj or 2 double leech rings
Holy Fire aura will autokill most content. and enchanted/aura buffed rapid melee attack will annihilate bosses.
life/mana leech will sustain both life and Energy Shield (prebuffed with gear).. or maybe just keep double soj for more mana, Warmth and Fire Mastery?
and the best part: procced hydras will add ~1k dmg per hit. count doesn't seem to be capped at 6, so there will be a lot of hits
compared to dragondin, advantages are synergized hydras, much more melee dmg, rapid Teleport speed, and the Energy Shield. disadvantages are ~33% lower aura dmg output and Conviction
merc either Infinity emilio or Faith rogue or double Plague barb
thoughts?
Fire Bolt 20
fire ball 20
Warmth 20
Enchant 20
Fire Mastery 20
Frozen Armor 0-1
Teleport 1
Telekinesis 8-9
Flickering Flame
Dragon armor
Dragon Shield
Hand of Justice ( Phase Blade)
double horazon's
Mara's Kaleidoscope
Arachnid Mesh
2 soj or 2 double leech rings
Holy Fire aura will autokill most content. and enchanted/aura buffed rapid melee attack will annihilate bosses.
life/mana leech will sustain both life and Energy Shield (prebuffed with gear).. or maybe just keep double soj for more mana, Warmth and Fire Mastery?
and the best part: procced hydras will add ~1k dmg per hit. count doesn't seem to be capped at 6, so there will be a lot of hits
compared to dragondin, advantages are synergized hydras, much more melee dmg, rapid Teleport speed, and the Energy Shield. disadvantages are ~33% lower aura dmg output and Conviction
merc either Infinity emilio or Faith rogue or double Plague barb
thoughts?
Allready had enough of the Dragondin?
I think the lightning variety is much stronger. Holy Shock deals similiar damage at level 30 as Holy Fire at 44 without synergies and even more important Lightning Mastery has about 1.7 times the damage bonus of Fire Mastery. Additionally you are stuck at 10 FPA, with lightning you can use Passion and get to 7 FPA or use Crescent Moon for the same 10 FPA but -25 lightres and Static Field procs to help with the AOE.
I doubt the Hydras can compensate for that, but never tried it.
I think the lightning variety is much stronger. Holy Shock deals similiar damage at level 30 as Holy Fire at 44 without synergies and even more important Lightning Mastery has about 1.7 times the damage bonus of Fire Mastery. Additionally you are stuck at 10 FPA, with lightning you can use Passion and get to 7 FPA or use Crescent Moon for the same 10 FPA but -25 lightres and Static Field procs to help with the AOE.
I doubt the Hydras can compensate for that, but never tried it.
The Fire Mastery is not as strong as the Paladin synergies, so she will do less damage than a Dragondin.
Your melee hits will also be much slower and weaker than the Paladin's Zeal. Do you also intend on casting Fireball? Then there is no leech, of course.
An ES that is only pre-cast and has no skill point investment will only drain your mana very quickly, but it will hardly protect you.
But, I mean, just try it!
Your melee hits will also be much slower and weaker than the Paladin's Zeal. Do you also intend on casting Fireball? Then there is no leech, of course.
An ES that is only pre-cast and has no skill point investment will only drain your mana very quickly, but it will hardly protect you.
But, I mean, just try it!
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true about the attack speed, but imo fire sorc will hit much harder thanks to both Enchant and Holy Fire bonuses.. i reckon 25k dmg per hit at 10 fps + hydras 10k+ dps, should be in the Charged Strike league? and -45 fire resLakkxa wrote: 1 day agoAllready had enough of the Dragondin?
I think the lightning variety is much stronger. Holy Shock deals similiar damage at level 30 as Holy Fire at 44 without synergies and even more important Lightning Mastery has about 1.7 times the damage bonus of Fire Mastery. Additionally you are stuck at 10 FPA, with lightning you can use Passion and get to 7 FPA or use Crescent Moon for the same 10 FPA but -25 lightres and Static Field procs to help with the AOE.
I doubt the Hydras can compensate for that, but never tried it.
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not bored by pally, inspired by him!mikelessar wrote: 1 day agoThe Fire Mastery is not as strong as the Paladin synergies, so she will do less damage than a Dragondin.
Your melee hits will also be much slower and weaker than the Paladin's Zeal. Do you also intend on casting Fireball? Then there is no leech, of course.
An ES that is only pre-cast and has no skill point investment will only drain your mana very quickly, but it will hardly protect you.
But, I mean, just try it!
yep sorc is ~33% weaker on the aura effect than paladin, but still enough on p1
and enchanted single target dmg is much stronger
i plan investing 8-9 points into tk, so Energy Shield will provide 1-2 k of free rapidly regenerating extra life at 0 res, drain factor 1.5.. could make sense
but you are right about trying ofc
@Lemzodistber
what would you want for the Dragon?
My timezone is CET/UTC+1.
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there is no need for Beast whatsoever. max attack speed is already reached. and Hand of Justice is indespensible for the build, accounting for ~40% of aoe dmg, a substantial portion of melee dmg, and almost half of the enemy fire resistance reduction
Beast is just for turning into a bear. Bear hits 7 frames, sorc 10. If you want to melee as a sorc, go furry!ganseng wrote: 1 day agothere is no need for Beast whatsoever. max attack speed is already reached. and Hand of Justice is indespensible for the build, accounting for ~40% of aoe dmg, a substantial portion of melee dmg, and almost half of the enemy fire resistance reduction
Playing HC SSF right now.
Hell completed: Sorc, Druid, Paladin, Ama, Assa, Necro, Barb
Iron Man (Paladin): Nightmare A1
Hell completed: Sorc, Druid, Paladin, Ama, Assa, Necro, Barb
Iron Man (Paladin): Nightmare A1
Whatever you do, you will have a meme build.ganseng wrote: 1 day agotrue about the attack speed, but imo fire sorc will hit much harder thanks to both Enchant and Holy Fire bonuses.. i reckon 25k dmg per hit at 10 fps + hydras 10k+ dps, should be in the Charged Strike league? and -45 fire resLakkxa wrote: 1 day agoAllready had enough of the Dragondin?
I think the lightning variety is much stronger. Holy Shock deals similiar damage at level 30 as Holy Fire at 44 without synergies and even more important Lightning Mastery has about 1.7 times the damage bonus of Fire Mastery. Additionally you are stuck at 10 FPA, with lightning you can use Passion and get to 7 FPA or use Crescent Moon for the same 10 FPA but -25 lightres and Static Field procs to help with the AOE.
I doubt the Hydras can compensate for that, but never tried it.
Compared to FB, you will deal less damage, with less -efr, and deal single target melee hits instead of ranged AOE.
You are loosing on all fronts damage wise. But it might still be fun, so go for it.
Playing HC SSF right now.
Hell completed: Sorc, Druid, Paladin, Ama, Assa, Necro, Barb
Iron Man (Paladin): Nightmare A1
Hell completed: Sorc, Druid, Paladin, Ama, Assa, Necro, Barb
Iron Man (Paladin): Nightmare A1
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vued wrote: 12 hours agoWhatever you do, you will have a meme build.ganseng wrote: 1 day agotrue about the attack speed, but imo fire sorc will hit much harder thanks to both Enchant and Holy Fire bonuses.. i reckon 25k dmg per hit at 10 fps + hydras 10k+ dps, should be in the Charged Strike league? and -45 fire resLakkxa wrote: 1 day agoAllready had enough of the Dragondin?
I think the lightning variety is much stronger. Holy Shock deals similiar damage at level 30 as Holy Fire at 44 without synergies and even more important Lightning Mastery has about 1.7 times the damage bonus of Fire Mastery. Additionally you are stuck at 10 FPA, with lightning you can use Passion and get to 7 FPA or use Crescent Moon for the same 10 FPA but -25 lightres and Static Field procs to help with the AOE.
I doubt the Hydras can compensate for that, but never tried it.
Compared to FB, you will deal less damage, with less -efr, and deal single target melee hits instead of ranged AOE.
You are loosing on all fronts damage wise. But it might still be fun, so go for it.![]()
i think it will be more single target dmg than pure FB
FB 21k dmg / 8 fps = 66k dps @ -35 res
Enchant + Holy Fire ~27k+ dmg / 10 fps = 68k dps @ -45 res + hydras ~10k+ dps
My current FB+ Hydra has more dps ofc, but it lacks the survivability to face ubers. I'm trying to craft something that will both clear mobs with the aura pulses and stand up to ubers
Hand of Justice is indispensable as mentioned earlier
still need the Dragon Spirit to test..
Whatever you do, don’t make Dragon in a Monarch (it seemed like you were considering it) - it’s just a waste of strength. The primary reason people like Monarch for non-paladins is because it’s the lowest strength option out of all 4os bases (there’s only 3; Monarch, Ward and Aegis), but Dragon only needs 3 sockets so using a Monarch is a huge waste of points into strength for no real benefit. There’s plenty of 3os shield bases with far lower str req than Monarch (if you want a light one then maybe Troll Nest or Dragon Shield).
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My Holy Grail Tracker is for Offline Hardcore.
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I know - I'd prly go for Hyperion for the looksShadowHeart wrote: 9 hours agoWhatever you do, don’t make Dragon in a Monarch (it seemed like you were considering it) - it’s just a waste of strength. The primary reason people like Monarch for non-paladins is because it’s the lowest strength option out of all 4os bases (there’s only 3; Monarch, Ward and Aegis), but Dragon only needs 3 sockets so using a Monarch is a huge waste of points into strength for no real benefit. There’s plenty of 3os shield bases with far lower str req than Monarch (if you want a light one then maybe Troll Nest or Dragon Shield).
It' just @Lemzodistber mentioned he has one, that's why I said Monarch
and to correct my previous post, taking hit chance and resistances into account, the triple Holy Fire would prly lose to properly optimized Fireball / Fireball + Hydra for uber hunting. but the difference should be small, so it's nice to have an unconventional build that's almost as stong as the strongest s-builds
Sorry, I must have traded it. I cant find it right now.ganseng wrote: 8 hours agoI know - I'd prly go for Hyperion for the looksShadowHeart wrote: 9 hours agoWhatever you do, don’t make Dragon in a Monarch (it seemed like you were considering it) - it’s just a waste of strength. The primary reason people like Monarch for non-paladins is because it’s the lowest strength option out of all 4os bases (there’s only 3; Monarch, Ward and Aegis), but Dragon only needs 3 sockets so using a Monarch is a huge waste of points into strength for no real benefit. There’s plenty of 3os shield bases with far lower str req than Monarch (if you want a light one then maybe Troll Nest or Dragon Shield).
It' just @Lemzodistber mentioned he has one, that's why I said Monarch
and to correct my previous post, taking hit chance and resistances into account, the triple Holy Fire would prly lose to properly optimized Fireball / Fireball + Hydra for uber hunting. but the difference should be small, so it's nice to have an unconventional build that's almost as stong as the strongest s-builds
Also your build is very similar to my enchantress build. If you have Demon Machine on off hand swap and swap arachnid for Razortail you could easily run that too.
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