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2 questions. The
Enhanced Entropy
entry here says soft points do not affect the skill, is this still true? I see build guides saying to only use 1 hard point.

Also, to increase the effectiveness of
Consume
(more magic damage, minus enemy resist), do I put more hard points into
Consume
or
Summon Defiler
?
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2 questions. The
Enhanced Entropy
entry here says soft points do not affect the skill, is this still true? I see build guides saying to only use 1 hard point.

Also, to increase the effectiveness of
Consume
(more magic damage, minus enemy resist), do I put more hard points into
Consume
or
Summon Defiler
?

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ShadowHeart 6229Moderator

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It was changed in 3.2 to use soft points. The page for
Enhanced Entropy
literally has the patch notes from Teebling that mention this. The main skill description says it's only hard points but that's because it hasn't been updated yet (not the only skill that hasn't been updated for 3.2 yet).

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Schnorki 5339Moderator

RotW PC
What ShadowHeart said.

EE has been changed to fully work with soft points. And thankfully, broken as it was on the PTR, it now actually does work for all 3 affected skills.

At the same time, EE still caps the effects for all 3 skills at lvl 20. So if you're running an actual
Abyss
lock and have decent gear to match, you should never put more than 1 pt into EE as your gear should easily take you from 1 to 20+, meaning your EE effects are capped solely from gear. That 1 base point you can't really avoid as you need that to open up
Abyss
anyways.

As for
Consume
, come some decent gear, you also shouldn't need more than 1 pt there.
To increase the effectiveness of the effect, you do need to level
Consume
and not the corresponding demon. The defiler
Consume
bonus caps out at -10/+20 though which you hit at errmm lvl 11
Consume
I believe it was. So relatively low and easy to reach solely via gear after investing 1 base hard pt.

Essentially, both,
Consume
and EE are definite 1pt wonders for an
Abyss
lock.
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ShadowHeart wrote: 2 hours ago
It was changed in 3.2 to use soft points. The page for
Enhanced Entropy
literally has the patch notes from Teebling that mention this. The main skill description says it's only hard points but that's because it hasn't been updated yet (not the only skill that hasn't been updated for 3.2 yet).
Thanks, I did see the patch notes, but they did not mention anything about soft/hard points. This answers the question though! :)

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Schnorki wrote: 1 hour ago
What ShadowHeart said.

EE has been changed to fully work with soft points. And thankfully, broken as it was on the PTR, it now actually does work for all 3 affected skills.

At the same time, EE still caps the effects for all 3 skills at lvl 20. So if you're running an actual
Abyss
lock and have decent gear to match, you should never put more than 1 pt into EE as your gear should easily take you from 1 to 20+, meaning your EE effects are capped solely from gear. That 1 base point you can't really avoid as you need that to open up
Abyss
anyways.

As for
Consume
, come some decent gear, you also shouldn't need more than 1 pt there.
To increase the effectiveness of the effect, you do need to level
Consume
and not the corresponding demon. The defiler
Consume
bonus caps out at -10/+20 though which you hit at errmm lvl 11
Consume
I believe it was. So relatively low and easy to reach solely via gear after investing 1 base hard pt.

Essentially, both,
Consume
and EE are definite 1pt wonders for an
Abyss
lock.
Ok nice, so that actually opens up some extra skill points for
Demonic Mastery
and maybe some more
Summon Defiler
to have an extra one or two out!

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