Not insanely expensive uber javazon build

my botd spearzon shows ~15k avg dam on Impale.. meaning it will take like 60 pokes to kill an ancient? i'm pretty sure she will die earlier with her 2.2k hp..
damn shame that Valkyrie and merc die so fast

kerph wrote: 2 months ago

ganseng wrote: 2 months ago

my botd spearzon shows ~15k avg dam on Impale.. meaning it will take like 60 pokes to kill an ancient? i'm pretty sure she will die earlier with her 2.2k hp..
damn shame that Valkyrie and merc die so fast

Wow, that's more than 5x more damage than mine have you done ubers on her before? I would love to hear more about your full build

It's a subsidized build unfortunately - good with good gear, but not excellent, and not capable of mining gear or doing uber runs effectively. as someone who tried all zon builds, I'd put it in same leagye as Exploding Arrow and Plague Javelin unfortunately - certainly below physical bow, icemaiden and the lightning builds. Arguably it can be better than non-lightning builds agains ubers, but still not good enough

as for the build itself, it's
Breath of the Dying or Call To Arms / Spirit on swap
bul-kathos' wedding ring & ravenfrost
Atma's Scarab
Fortitude
Laying of Hands + credendium
Waterwalk
unique toara with +2 skills and some immaterial bonuses
almost full stash of charms


if I do longer sessions, I prebuff Valkyrie to lvl 48-50 with +3gloves, amulet, Tiara, soj, and several acrobatic charms

merc fire rogue with Chains of Honor, Faith & Andariel's Visage

41 points in Fend, 20 in Valkyrie, rest spread between passives

I haven't tried ubers, I'm afraid 2.3k life (lvl 83) won't be enough - even my self wield Infinity zon with much higher dmg and 3.1k life (lvl 95) has a hard time against them (she beats them but not easily)

my compliments for doing it with such low stats, really. i guess i'm too old and lazy for safety margins that are this thin.

actually i never did the old ubers (i don't want much stress to get a necro torch while i can buy another zon or sorc torch for 1-2 Ist..), but my understanding is that the new ancients (post 3.2) are much harder than the old ubers. the fire guy alone does 4k fire dmg, and even with 75% res you can die to him in <1s with <3k hp

kerph wrote: 2 months ago

ganseng wrote: 2 months ago

It's a subsidized build unfortunately - good with good gear, but not excellent, and not capable of mining gear or doing uber runs effectively. as someone who tried all zon builds, I'd put it in same leagye as Exploding Arrow and Plague Javelin unfortunately - certainly below physical bow, icemaiden and the lightning builds. Arguably it can be better than non-lightning builds agains ubers, but still not good enough

as for the build itself, it's
Breath of the Dying or Call To Arms / Spirit on swap
bul-kathos' wedding ring & ravenfrost
Atma's Scarab
Fortitude
Laying of Hands + credendium
Waterwalk
unique toara with +2 skills and some immaterial bonuses
almost full stash of charms


if I do longer sessions, I prebuff Valkyrie to lvl 48-50 with +3gloves, amulet, Tiara, soj, and several acrobatic charms

merc fire rogue with Chains of Honor, Faith & Andariel's Visage

41 points in Fend, 20 in Valkyrie, rest spread between passives

I haven't tried ubers, I'm afraid 2.3k life (lvl 83) won't be enough - even my self wield Infinity zon with much higher dmg and 3.1k life (lvl 95) has a hard time against them (she beats them but not easily)

Ooh, Fend? It's a shame that physical builds are not very good... That's something really nice about this build, that u can still farm quite well with just the 60 pts or so into Lightning Fury / synergies.
I think as long as u can stack res against Uber Mephisto you'd do fine. Also some source of crushing blow & open wounds, i think it would be easy enough to swap in Guillaume's Face and Gore Rider^^
I do them ok with just 1400 life. It's just tricky bc Impale is sooo slow to leech