MF on an ES Nova sorcq

So, as you might know, I've been struggling with my

Nova sorc. I had a big breakthrough when i learned about quickcast.... it literally solved 90% of my problems.

Now, I am trying to get some MF on this character because unless i do the souls trick, I get all blue items on TZ and I cant do my standard Chaos runs, which is what i do while im at work.

I found a

Blade Of Ali Baba and it gave me an idea:

Griffons Eye w/ big jewel (30 mf)

Blade of Alibaba w/ 2

Ist (150 MF)
Enigma (90 MF)
Renewed sunder (20 MF)
Gheeds (38 MF)
Spirit
+3/10 amulet

Arachnid Mesh

Magefist
2x Soj
Sandstorm trek 70 PR

Eth
Anni/torc
1 skill charm

This leaves me with 328MF, 110 FCR, 4.5k damage, 581 life, 2.8k mana, level 33

Energy Shield, -34 LR

Is there anything else i can consider? I know i could get MF small charms, but they take up inventory space and that makes it very annoying.

edit: oh, one benefit here that i didnt even realize is the goldfind. Now, i can find enough

Gold to rehire my merc because he's dying all the time. I probably accumulated 3m

Gold today. another thought... did anyone realize that the same people that just are just causal human traffickers can also raise people from the dead? You'd think they'd go and do something with that skill.

I try to run close to 200 mf with my

Nova sorc. Past 200 starts to be fairly diminishing returns, and you have to

Sacrifice a lot on

Nova sorc to get more, which will then slow you down.

Some ways to get there:
- Jewel and sunder, up to 60 combined
- Gheeds, 40
- 7x 17 mana, 7 magic find charms or 7x 11 poison res, 7 magic find charms: 49
-2/10 ammy with magic find, up to 30
- war travelers: 50 (make up needed poison res with small charms)
-

Caster Boots with poison res, mana, and up to 25 magic find
- use an

Ist or p

Topaz on your second socket, sacrificing a small bit of damage vs a -5 lightning jewel

This still allows you to go Infinity, viper magi, griffin, arachnid, sojs etc, the classic ES

Nova build. Only twist I used to do is war travelers over sandstorm, but I spent a bunch of

Jah on gg ammy and

Caster Boots to get a very slightly better version lol

All that said, I think the

Ring of Fire warlock is a better, cheaper version of the ES

Nova Sorc, even after the nerf.

Only difference is the sorc can

Teleport 1 frame faster.

Ring of Fire warlock (with apoc mixed in as need mainly versus boss,

Herald, or packs behind obstacles) is so strong I’ve been running Insight on merc not Infinity, even after I lost

Conviction hef, and he still wrecks. Kills slightly faster than

Nova sorc, and is an absolute tank with no fear of any monster or

Herald in the game (aside from Ubers)

Still trying to get Infinity to work, but I hate chugging potions and

Ring of Fire is mana intensive.

In the case of equip baba,
you might want to remove Gheeds (38 MF)
to free more space.

Nova sorc 150-200 is good enough. You are sacrify weapon to 150 mf which will makes other part not so important.

In the other aspect, if you add back strong staff weapon, you will need

Gheed and others.

Kill speed is always first thing you need to full. You can have 180 mf that kill 100 monster in 1 min beat up 330 mf that kill 95 monster in 1 min in market value aspect.

I didnt run calculator, I dont know if staff +3 skill -5 res +35 skill does any performance difference to you in real run. You have to run max-roll to see if this trade off worth it.


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That difference is like , your other char, if you have Last Wish, then

Goblin Toe isnt that much difference. On the other setup, if you dont use Last Wish,

Goblin Toe is huge.

No Ali Babas, use a self-wield Infinity. It is vital for your damage. If you really want more MF, swap your Griffon for a

Shako. But I would just run with "only" 150 MF but almost double the damage

AFAIK

Nova sorc is best when optimized for speed, not for high mf. Sure, you can put on some mf on small charms,

Boots, or even gloves.
But to get most of her, run e.g TZ'd Sanctuary for runes and keys.
Chaos is possible, too, of course. But don't

Sacrifice too much kill speed for some mf. Killspeed beats magic find here.

~150 MF is good enough. As said, you want that damage and kill speed, it's vital to survival. Infinity is the way to go IMO.

Oh, I forgot to mention Infinity itself has 30% magic find. So you can go:

- Infinity: 30
- jewel + sunder: up to 60
- gheeds: 40
- 7x small charms with mf and something else useful: 49

That gets you 179 right there. My earlier post has ways to get closer or past 200.

But don't go Ali-Baba.

You COULD go for Enigma also for up to +99% mf, but that would require dropping down one break point to 63, and making up the 35 poison res elsewhere. Not the end of the world.

To hit the 63 breakpoint, the basic way is

Magefist+griffin+arachnid - but if you want to run

Frostburn on an Enigma setup, you'd probably want a 2/20 ammy, and then 35 poison res to make up with the ammy or small charms.

That setup with Enigma, frost burn, dual soj, 2/20 (or 2/18), sandstorm, griffin, 7x mf sc,sunder+jewel would have 278 magic find, 80% faster run walk,

Conviction aura,

Meditation from merc, -95 core negative lightning res (10,10,20,55), and +95% mana pool (FB, 2x SOJ, arachnid). If you want close to 300mf, do it that way, not with ali babas.

You can get around 200 MF with

Nova Sorceress if you are willing to spend some high runes. On the other hand, if you play mostly solo,

Mang Song's Lesson is a viable alternative for the self-wield Infinity, which helps to spare armor spot without braking FCR break point. Then you can wear

Skullder's Ire with a socket options besides the staff. Your merc needs to carry Infinity and mana could be a problem but it adds much more MF for sure.

Another viable option is

Tal Rasha's 3-set + Obsession, 2 SoJ, Griffon,

Frostburn, + a good pair of

Boots. Then Anni/Torch,

Crack of the Heavens, 4 skillers and some cheap mana/life/+7MF charms.

I get 3.8-4.9k damage, 70% poison res, 2.9k mana and 450 life before CtA, ES lvl39. After CtA it's 4k mana, 600 life. 281% MF, could push to 300ish if I swap out mana/life charms.

I'm navigating all content in P3 TZ except Worldstone keep when souls are present. Heralds are doable, just 4th-5th grade need some care and can take 2 minutes.

A +3

Nova Obsession costs around 3

Jah though.

Cracume wrote: 2 hours ago

Another viable option is

Tal Rasha's 3-set + Obsession, 2 SoJ, Griffon,

Frostburn, + a good pair of

Boots. Then Anni/Torch,

Crack of the Heavens, 4 skillers and some cheap mana/life/+7MF charms.

I get 3.8-4.9k damage, 70% poison res, 2.9k mana and 450 life before CtA, ES lvl39. After CtA it's 4k mana, 600 life. 281% MF, could push to 300ish if I swap out mana/life charms.

I'm navigating all content in P3 TZ except Worldstone keep when souls are present. Heralds are doable, just 4th-5th grade need some care and can take 2 minutes.

A +3

Nova Obsession costs around 3

Jah though.

This sounds like a very nice setup, great for what OP is looking for. Much more viable now too with the new jewels and sunder that give you an additional negative 15 versus what was available before. You can get 45 negative res with this before Infinity. LI will still take a bit longer to take down even after

Conviction hits, and you have no Insight on merc, but the mana is very tanky at 4k and the magic find is great. And 62 negative res (33 remaining) against sundered immunes is workable.

varangium wrote: 17 hours ago

All that said, I think the

Ring of Fire warlock is a better, cheaper version of the ES

Nova Sorc, even after the nerf.

Only difference is the sorc can

Teleport 1 frame faster.

Ring of Fire warlock (with apoc mixed in as need mainly versus boss,

Herald, or packs behind obstacles) is so strong I’ve been running Insight on merc not Infinity, even after I lost

Conviction hef, and he still wrecks. Kills slightly faster than

Nova sorc, and is an absolute tank with no fear of any monster or

Herald in the game (aside from Ubers)

Still trying to get Infinity to work, but I hate chugging potions and

Ring of Fire is mana intensive.

I might look into this, but i quickly built one on offline ( i have two warlocks to respec) and I couldn't make a build that could kill things very fast. Apoc is too slow to cast,

Ring of Fire does not kill in one hit, and it knocks them back, which seems to knock some monsters out of range?

What do you mean chugging potions? With Infinity, it seems to be one or the other.. either you are killing everything with no potions, or you are straight dead (T-5 archers, for example)

vued wrote: 5 hours ago

AFAIK

Nova sorc is best when optimized for speed, not for high mf. Sure, you can put on some mf on small charms,

Boots, or even gloves.
But to get most of her, run e.g TZ'd Sanctuary for runes and keys.
Chaos is possible, too, of course. But don't

Sacrifice too much kill speed for some mf. Killspeed beats magic find here.

hm. I ran Chaos runs with no additional MF and diablo was dropping nothing. I swapped to 300ish mf and started finding items.

StoBeast wrote: 1 hour ago

varangium wrote: 17 hours ago

All that said, I think the

Ring of Fire warlock is a better, cheaper version of the ES

Nova Sorc, even after the nerf.

Only difference is the sorc can

Teleport 1 frame faster.

Ring of Fire warlock (with apoc mixed in as need mainly versus boss,

Herald, or packs behind obstacles) is so strong I’ve been running Insight on merc not Infinity, even after I lost

Conviction hef, and he still wrecks. Kills slightly faster than

Nova sorc, and is an absolute tank with no fear of any monster or

Herald in the game (aside from Ubers)

Still trying to get Infinity to work, but I hate chugging potions and

Ring of Fire is mana intensive.

I might look into this, but i quickly built one on offline ( i have two warlocks to respec) and I couldn't make a build that could kill things very fast. Apoc is too slow to cast,

Ring of Fire does not kill in one hit, and it knocks them back, which seems to knock some monsters out of range?

What do you mean chugging potions? With Infinity, it seems to be one or the other.. either you are killing everything with no potions, or you are straight dead (T-5 archers, for example)

Yeah

Ring of Fire takes a couple hits versus most enemies, but I run at 125 FCR, so not a big deal. It does knock enemies back, but I tp right in the middle of enemies, so the knockback rarely knocks them out of range, unless it is a

Herald that takes a bunch to take down (in which case I alternate between apoc, flame wall, and

Ring of Fire in between while waiting on the casting delays).

Regarding Infinity - ever since the demon

Conviction nerf, I have been running Insight on my merc not Infinity. If I run Infinity, it kills slightly faster, but I have mana issues. I already run -65 fire res from equipment and

Consume (could do -70 max with better sunder and jewel), so Infinity helps but is not absolutely necessary. RoF takes 27 mana at level 40, and apoc takes 75 at level 45. I'm running with only about 500 mana right now after CtA, so I can blow through my mana quite quickly, especially if I throw in an Apoc. I do 3 RoF per second, and often overcast since I just spam the button, so that's 81 mana usage per second just with RoF.

I have zero problems with T-5 heralds with fire WL. Just cast

Sigil Lethargy and spam Apoc, flame wall, and

Ring of Fire. Since

Ring of Fire knocks them back I do need to reposition or recast lethargy on the new spot as they move enough. Killed a bunch of T-5 heralds in a P-6 game the other day. In some cases I had to give my merc a rejuv.

Looks like my Chaos runs are about 8 seconds slower with the MF gear vs normal gear (no mf)

Sample of one, didn't have time for more.. but I did have to stop to pick up a rare amulet and a

Ko, which I did not have to do without the mf gear

varangium wrote: 1 hour ago

StoBeast wrote: 1 hour ago

varangium wrote: 17 hours ago

All that said, I think the

Ring of Fire warlock is a better, cheaper version of the ES

Nova Sorc, even after the nerf.

Only difference is the sorc can

Teleport 1 frame faster.

Ring of Fire warlock (with apoc mixed in as need mainly versus boss,

Herald, or packs behind obstacles) is so strong I’ve been running Insight on merc not Infinity, even after I lost

Conviction hef, and he still wrecks. Kills slightly faster than

Nova sorc, and is an absolute tank with no fear of any monster or

Herald in the game (aside from Ubers)

Still trying to get Infinity to work, but I hate chugging potions and

Ring of Fire is mana intensive.

I might look into this, but i quickly built one on offline ( i have two warlocks to respec) and I couldn't make a build that could kill things very fast. Apoc is too slow to cast,

Ring of Fire does not kill in one hit, and it knocks them back, which seems to knock some monsters out of range?

What do you mean chugging potions? With Infinity, it seems to be one or the other.. either you are killing everything with no potions, or you are straight dead (T-5 archers, for example)

Yeah

Ring of Fire takes a couple hits versus most enemies, but I run at 125 FCR, so not a big deal. It does knock enemies back, but I tp right in the middle of enemies, so the knockback rarely knocks them out of range, unless it is a

Herald that takes a bunch to take down (in which case I alternate between apoc, flame wall, and

Ring of Fire in between while waiting on the casting delays).

Regarding Infinity - ever since the demon

Conviction nerf, I have been running Insight on my merc not Infinity. If I run Infinity, it kills slightly faster, but I have mana issues. I already run -65 fire res from equipment and

Consume (could do -70 max with better sunder and jewel), so Infinity helps but is not absolutely necessary. RoF takes 27 mana at level 40, and apoc takes 75 at level 45. I'm running with only about 500 mana right now after CtA, so I can blow through my mana quite quickly, especially if I throw in an Apoc. I do 3 RoF per second, and often overcast since I just spam the button, so that's 81 mana usage per second just with RoF.

I have zero problems with T-5 heralds with fire WL. Just cast

Sigil Lethargy and spam Apoc, flame wall, and

Ring of Fire. Since

Ring of Fire knocks them back I do need to reposition or recast lethargy on the new spot as they move enough. Killed a bunch of T-5 heralds in a P-6 game the other day. In some cases I had to give my merc a rejuv.

your experience sounds a lot better than my

Nova sorc on t-5 heralds. I have to skip t-5 archers because I am just dead the minute they look at me, and merc management is terrible, dude dies all the time. I am going to respec fire and see. I found that stupid

Baal book last run, so i have the gear for it i think.

StoBeast wrote: 1 hour ago

I am going to respec fire and see. I found that stupid

Baal book last run, so i have the gear for it i think.

Emm, you want to give a "stupid

Baal book" to a Sorc? That's a stupid idea.