Single Player Idea to address Elephant in the room

Adam23 wrote: 1 day ago

I only wish the chronicles could count the RW and Uniques I got and found prior I am talking Last Wish,

Tyrael's Might level...

RW means real world ,online mode, right?

You have to understand , it is your world and yours only.

if you do it in real way, no edit, why do you need to 'online'?

If I buy rotw, I will just buy some runes and base, get chronicle , tp in 5 minutes.

Some other player today, they just get it from others without real build runeword. Does it make sense to 'farm hard, finally achieve some goal'?

This thing , it is like diablo 3 buffer fly wing, first release, everyone want it and after 3-9 season....new wing? oh, I dont care.

I like to hear more people talking about what they want to build their world own rule...

Some earlier already says they want build d2io rate like economy into their single player world...

My world is more like d3, it is ehchant and infinite

Jah lv up and 1 affix modify with

Mal (roll dice on my own paper).

leox wrote: 1 day ago

Adam23 wrote: 1 day ago

I only wish the chronicles could count the RW and Uniques I got and found prior I am talking Last Wish,

Tyrael's Might level...

RW means real world ,online mode, right?

You have to understand , it is your world and yours only.

if you do it in real way, no edit, why do you need to 'online'?

If I buy rotw, I will just buy some runes and base, get chronicle , tp in 5 minutes.

Some other player today, they just get it from others without real build runeword. Does it make sense to 'farm hard, finally achieve some goal'?

This thing , it is like diablo 3 buffer fly wing, first release, everyone want it and after 3-9 season....new wing? oh, I dont care.

He means Rune Words and uniques he found before the expansion (Everyone does. My

Tiara and three

Shako's are likely going to take a LONG time to find again same for the Enigma I'm sporting)

Dragoneyes001 wrote: 1 day ago

Got to love when people assert that a corporation will never uphold their terms of service which do not distinguish between SP or MP when they state you are in contravention of said TOS if you use 3rd party programs. Only takes one program they deem a problem and that lack of enforcement could end tomorrow.
Yeah they don't care that you used Hero Editor if some Clod uses something that embarrasses the company or conflicts with the companies politics or makes some money from their game......etc.... the reason they decide to enforce is not for you to decide or predict because you agreed to the terms.

It's just a save file love, It's not a third party program, and it doesn't modify your game files or client in any way. If you actually go to the saves folder for d2r you can see it's completely separate ("Saved Games" in your user folder, vs program files). The hero editors i've seen that are up to date for resurrected are fully web-based and not even programs you can download. There is no way for d2runewizard to touch your game files from within firefox. I totally get it if u don't want to use hero editor! But you won't get banned

Dragoneyes001 wrote: 1 day ago

AS I've explained a few times now: SP CAN'T 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999% CAN NOT complete a task in the game. BLIZZARD SCREWED THE POOCH and introduced an impossibility to the game as a Challenge for the players. You can find 100% of set Items you only need one of each even the 1:14,000,000 chance to drop on the four MOBS who are high enough level to drop one

Windforce you ONLY need ONE of Uniques but Runewords you need SEVERAL of the runes it's nearly miraculous to see the first drop of.

I'm not sure why you're so upset! I really wasn't trying to fight or anything i'm sorry if my reply came out wrong. I understand ur explanation, i just still think that it's better for those two gamemodes to have their own spaces. I play mostly on b.net myself, but a big part of the enjoyment of singleplayer for me comes from the fact i'm probably never going to make an Enigma. I'm sure a lot of other people would say the same. It creates two different experiences that are enjoyable and challenging in different ways. You also can't get the 20 ears achievement in singleplayer. I don't think they should add an

Ear npc either, i think these are just sort of intrinsic properties of sp and i think the game is overall better because of it

kerph wrote: 1 day ago

Dragoneyes001 wrote: 1 day ago

Got to love when people assert that a corporation will never uphold their terms of service which do not distinguish between SP or MP when they state you are in contravention of said TOS if you use 3rd party programs. Only takes one program they deem a problem and that lack of enforcement could end tomorrow.
Yeah they don't care that you used Hero Editor if some Clod uses something that embarrasses the company or conflicts with the companies politics or makes some money from their game......etc.... the reason they decide to enforce is not for you to decide or predict because you agreed to the terms.

It's just a save file love, It's not a third party program, and it doesn't modify your game files or client in any way. If you actually go to the saves folder for d2r you can see it's completely separate ("Saved Games" in your user folder, vs program files). The hero editors i've seen that are up to date for resurrected are fully web-based and not even programs you can download. There is no way for d2runewizard to touch your game files from within firefox. I totally get it if u don't want to use hero editor! But you won't get banned

Dragoneyes001 wrote: 1 day ago

AS I've explained a few times now: SP CAN'T 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999% CAN NOT complete a task in the game. BLIZZARD SCREWED THE POOCH and introduced an impossibility to the game as a Challenge for the players. You can find 100% of set Items you only need one of each even the 1:14,000,000 chance to drop on the four MOBS who are high enough level to drop one

Windforce you ONLY need ONE of Uniques but Runewords you need SEVERAL of the runes it's nearly miraculous to see the first drop of.

I'm not sure why you're so upset! I really wasn't trying to fight or anything i'm sorry if my reply came out wrong. I understand ur explanation, i just still think that it's better for those two gamemodes to have their own spaces. I play mostly on b.net myself, but a big part of the enjoyment of singleplayer for me comes from the fact i'm probably never going to make an Enigma. I'm sure a lot of other people would say the same. It creates two different experiences that are enjoyable and challenging in different ways. You also can't get the 20 ears achievement in singleplayer. I don't think they should add an

Ear npc either, i think these are just sort of intrinsic properties of sp and i think the game is overall better because of it

All that explanation to say how you didn't use a 3rd party program.... SO WHAT? many people do you talk like the TOS can't come and bite you in the ass because 'Reasons' They don't work that way. you sign by agreeing to the terms if the corporation choses to enforce them all your "It's only this or that" doesn't mean Squat. they do a mass deletion of the accounts they identify as outside the TOS HERE IS THE KICKER.... As THEY interpret them.

Dragoneyes001 wrote: 1 day ago

kerph wrote: 1 day ago

Dragoneyes001 wrote: 1 day ago

Got to love when people assert that a corporation will never uphold their terms of service which do not distinguish between SP or MP when they state you are in contravention of said TOS if you use 3rd party programs. Only takes one program they deem a problem and that lack of enforcement could end tomorrow.
Yeah they don't care that you used Hero Editor if some Clod uses something that embarrasses the company or conflicts with the companies politics or makes some money from their game......etc.... the reason they decide to enforce is not for you to decide or predict because you agreed to the terms.

It's just a save file love, It's not a third party program, and it doesn't modify your game files or client in any way. If you actually go to the saves folder for d2r you can see it's completely separate ("Saved Games" in your user folder, vs program files). The hero editors i've seen that are up to date for resurrected are fully web-based and not even programs you can download. There is no way for d2runewizard to touch your game files from within firefox. I totally get it if u don't want to use hero editor! But you won't get banned

Dragoneyes001 wrote: 1 day ago

AS I've explained a few times now: SP CAN'T 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999% CAN NOT complete a task in the game. BLIZZARD SCREWED THE POOCH and introduced an impossibility to the game as a Challenge for the players. You can find 100% of set Items you only need one of each even the 1:14,000,000 chance to drop on the four MOBS who are high enough level to drop one

Windforce you ONLY need ONE of Uniques but Runewords you need SEVERAL of the runes it's nearly miraculous to see the first drop of.

I'm not sure why you're so upset! I really wasn't trying to fight or anything i'm sorry if my reply came out wrong. I understand ur explanation, i just still think that it's better for those two gamemodes to have their own spaces. I play mostly on b.net myself, but a big part of the enjoyment of singleplayer for me comes from the fact i'm probably never going to make an Enigma. I'm sure a lot of other people would say the same. It creates two different experiences that are enjoyable and challenging in different ways. You also can't get the 20 ears achievement in singleplayer. I don't think they should add an

Ear npc either, i think these are just sort of intrinsic properties of sp and i think the game is overall better because of it

All that explanation to say how you didn't use a 3rd party program.... SO WHAT? many people do you talk like the TOS can't come and bite you in the ass because 'Reasons' They don't work that way. you sign by agreeing to the terms if the corporation choses to enforce them all your "It's only this or that" doesn't mean Squat. they do a mass deletion of the accounts they identify as outside the TOS HERE IS THE KICKER.... As THEY interpret them.

You seen to lack basic knowledge of how computers work and how software components interact with each other. This is not to dog on you, but to have such

Conviction while being so wrong is not a good look friend.

Dragoneyes001 wrote: 1 day ago

All that explanation to say how you didn't use a 3rd party program.... SO WHAT? many people do you talk like the TOS can't come and bite you in the ass because 'Reasons' They don't work that way. you sign by agreeing to the terms if the corporation choses to enforce them all your "It's only this or that" doesn't mean Squat. they do a mass deletion of the accounts they identify as outside the TOS HERE IS THE KICKER.... As THEY interpret them.

First, you need to read people say. (About .sav file and how it work in SP)
In SP, Single player. It is solely on your computer, that you can offline play. Whether you use 3rd program or not, it doesnt matter.
Even if blizzard want to kill your account, it is impossible to stop you from play whatever version of your diablo 2 in Local computer.
You can even unplug your cable and still able to play it.
Some people play private server diablo with a lot fancy features, it is like this . Even if bz want to stop it, they cant do anything about that.



Second,
Online play, this part you need your main account follow by blizzard rule. As one purchase , they maintain every day. They actually have some right about stop you from play with no reason or whatever reason they make it. This is actually have some game lawsuit history . Go reference world of w.... , player sue blizzard every once a while. They feel their right invade, that world might be different because of monthly fee. Some right are more favor player.

Dragoneyes001 wrote: 1 day ago

All that explanation to say how you didn't use a 3rd party program.... SO WHAT?

So what...? You're the one who mentioned third party programs

Dragoneyes001 wrote: 1 day ago

they state you are in contravention of said TOS if you use 3rd party programs.

That's why i mentioned it, to try to reassure you that it's not against tos. Now you're just saying "blizzard could ban me at any time for any reason" ? Sure i guess

No hard feelings Biz

kerph wrote: 1 day ago

Dragoneyes001 wrote: 1 day ago

All that explanation to say how you didn't use a 3rd party program.... SO WHAT?

So what...? You're the one who mentioned third party programs

Dragoneyes001 wrote: 1 day ago

they state you are in contravention of said TOS if you use 3rd party programs.

That's why i mentioned it, to try to reassure you that it's not against tos. Now you're just saying "blizzard could ban me at any time for any reason" ? Sure i guess

Effectively they can. changing files is included in the TOS Anything that Changes the game from What they created is included learn fucking contract law because you signed one!
I wont elaborate yet while you were still shitting your diapers we were already inputting code I know how to go into the files.
What we are talking about is the moment you alter the game you are in contravention of the TOS the 3rd party programs is SPECIFICALLY written into a very long with MANY chapters and less specific reasons why Blizzard Corp can decide they don't like you enough to allow you to access your account.

Dragoneyes001 wrote: 23 hours ago

Effectively they can. changing files is included in the TOS Anything that Changes the game from What they created is included learn fucking contract law because you signed one!
I wont elaborate yet while you were still shitting your diapers we were already inputting code I know how to go into the files.
What we are talking about is the moment you alter the game you are in contravention of the TOS the 3rd party programs is SPECIFICALLY written into a very long with MANY chapters and less specific reasons why Blizzard Corp can decide they don't like you enough to allow you to access your account.

Editing your save is not altering your game It doesn't change any file that blizzard distributes to you. A save file is not software. There is no third party programs involved It's not really a remarkable statement to say blizzard could ban you for any reason lol. There's no reason to believe they would exercise that on save editing any more than on making an Enigma in a

Shadow Plate

Anyways. I don't really think it's productive for us to go back and forth, of course do whatever u like with your saves and editing/not editing them

Guys/gals, this has gotten a bit out of hand. Which I realize is rich coming from me since I'm a repeat offender of the "let's burn this topic down to the Ground to satiate my own complex" mindset.

Seriously though, this thread has been completely derailed, and if we really look at it, maybe only a single reply was on topic.

OP proposed "problem X", and submitted "potential solution Y". All of the comments were referencing the validity of Problem X and only one comment kinda-sorta reviewed Potential Solution Y. Unless I missed another comment? Anyways, OP's original ask was our opinions on Potential Solution Y. We need to approach our responses with the assumption that Problem X is a given. Our opinions on Problem X are irrelevant in this thread. To OP it is a problem. The great thing about feelings is they aren't wrong. What someone feels isn't wrong.

I can empathize with OP and understand his frustration. He is frustrated (please correct me if I'm wrong though, I don't want to put words in anyone's mouth) no one is addressing the one thing he asked for, but instead we are minimizing and brushing aside something he views as a problem.

So, to OP, I'm sorry for not answering your ask but instead attacking the pillar it was balanced on. I do think a second 'gambling' NPC would pretty neat (for SP of course). One where you could turn in a unique or set to pull the "slot machine lever". The mechanics are already sort of there with gambling with

Gold. Different uniques would have different "rune reward" odds based on their drop odds. In-and-of-itself it isn't a bad idea. Crap uniques would give crap runes, but if you "feed" it an

Astreon's Iron Ward or something you get the chance of an

Ist or

Vex?

Dragoneyes001 wrote: 23 hours ago

kerph wrote: 1 day ago

Dragoneyes001 wrote: 1 day ago

All that explanation to say how you didn't use a 3rd party program.... SO WHAT?

So what...? You're the one who mentioned third party programs

Dragoneyes001 wrote: 1 day ago

they state you are in contravention of said TOS if you use 3rd party programs.

That's why i mentioned it, to try to reassure you that it's not against tos. Now you're just saying "blizzard could ban me at any time for any reason" ? Sure i guess

Effectively they can. changing files is included in the TOS Anything that Changes the game from What they created is included learn fucking contract law because you signed one!
I wont elaborate yet while you were still shitting your diapers we were already inputting code I know how to go into the files.
What we are talking about is the moment you alter the game you are in contravention of the TOS the 3rd party programs is SPECIFICALLY written into a very long with MANY chapters and less specific reasons why Blizzard Corp can decide they don't like you enough to allow you to access your account.

You seem to have some anger issues my friend.
Also, there is no way in hell you ever coded anything with your lack of basic knowledge. You can't even differentiate between code that checks software integrity vs editing a simple save file. That, to me, tells me you have absolutely no idea how anything inside a computer works. These people have been way too nice to someone who is constantly abrasive and seems to just be looking for an excuse to argue.
But please, go ahead and explain to us how Blizzard verifies the modifications made on a single player save file, and the mechanisms by which they ban you for modifying it. I am quite curious on what insights you may have, since you "were already inputting code" while the rest of us were shitting our diapers. Let's not forget you "know how to go into files" so I await with anticipation the mechanical breakdown of said code.
Take pity on us diaper shitters and let us bask in your knowledge of both programming and contract law, my lord.

Piss Vortex wrote: 8 hours ago

Dragoneyes001 wrote: 23 hours ago

kerph wrote: 1 day ago

So what...? You're the one who mentioned third party programs

That's why i mentioned it, to try to reassure you that it's not against tos. Now you're just saying "blizzard could ban me at any time for any reason" ? Sure i guess

Effectively they can. changing files is included in the TOS Anything that Changes the game from What they created is included learn fucking contract law because you signed one!
I wont elaborate yet while you were still shitting your diapers we were already inputting code I know how to go into the files.
What we are talking about is the moment you alter the game you are in contravention of the TOS the 3rd party programs is SPECIFICALLY written into a very long with MANY chapters and less specific reasons why Blizzard Corp can decide they don't like you enough to allow you to access your account.

You seem to have some anger issues my friend.
Also, there is no way in hell you ever coded anything with your lack of basic knowledge. You can't even differentiate between code that checks software integrity vs editing a simple save file. That, to me, tells me you have absolutely no idea how anything inside a computer works. These people have been way too nice to someone who is constantly abrasive and seems to just be looking for an excuse to argue.
But please, go ahead and explain to us how Blizzard verifies the modifications made on a single player save file, and the mechanisms by which they ban you for modifying it. I am quite curious on what insights you may have, since you "were already inputting code" while the rest of us were shitting our diapers. Let's not forget you "know how to go into files" so I await with anticipation the mechanical breakdown of said code.
Take pity on us diaper shitters and let us bask in your knowledge of both programming and contract law, my lord.

LOL!

Love this!

Also they wld have to be like 5 years old when they started coding bc I'm old AF!

Piss Vortex wrote: 8 hours ago

Dragoneyes001 wrote: 23 hours ago

kerph wrote: 1 day ago

So what...? You're the one who mentioned third party programs

That's why i mentioned it, to try to reassure you that it's not against tos. Now you're just saying "blizzard could ban me at any time for any reason" ? Sure i guess

Effectively they can. changing files is included in the TOS Anything that Changes the game from What they created is included learn fucking contract law because you signed one!
I wont elaborate yet while you were still shitting your diapers we were already inputting code I know how to go into the files.
What we are talking about is the moment you alter the game you are in contravention of the TOS the 3rd party programs is SPECIFICALLY written into a very long with MANY chapters and less specific reasons why Blizzard Corp can decide they don't like you enough to allow you to access your account.

You seem to have some anger issues my friend.
Also, there is no way in hell you ever coded anything with your lack of basic knowledge. You can't even differentiate between code that checks software integrity vs editing a simple save file. That, to me, tells me you have absolutely no idea how anything inside a computer works. These people have been way too nice to someone who is constantly abrasive and seems to just be looking for an excuse to argue.
But please, go ahead and explain to us how Blizzard verifies the modifications made on a single player save file, and the mechanisms by which they ban you for modifying it. I am quite curious on what insights you may have, since you "were already inputting code" while the rest of us were shitting our diapers. Let's not forget you "know how to go into files" so I await with anticipation the mechanical breakdown of said code.
Take pity on us diaper shitters and let us bask in your knowledge of both programming and contract law, my lord.

You don't know jack shit! at no point have I even discussed the differences of changing files and 3rd party programs BEYOND them being BOTH proscribed by the TOS quite clearly.
You infer My inability to code from a faulty position because you don't have a fucking clue how sweeping TOS documents are! you're too stupid to understand
((((AT THEIR DISCRETION))) which is exactly how the TOS has been used By Blizzard in the past. at the onset of 1.10 they did a mass ban of accounts when they introduced Marshal in preparation for the up coming WOW release. Their new security was scanning your computer (Enough to land them in court by the way you can look up the cases) to see if you even had any proscribed programs Not Running but installed < Yeah it was that intrusive. its not just a case of Identifying running processes but actually scanning your install's, You sound like the same turds who were told Apple products made in China are being made with onboard spyware sending 100% of the phones info directly to the CCP " I don't Care I have nothing on my phone let them look" as you do all your app payments banking & record damn near your entire lives and others on them.

Cobol & fortran even Basic long before Python & C++ where libraries make them what they are back in the day you actually learned Binary then Hex
I really do not give a @#%@# if you believe me or not it's no skin off my back.

kerph wrote: 20 hours ago

Dragoneyes001 wrote: 23 hours ago

Effectively they can. changing files is included in the TOS Anything that Changes the game from What they created is included learn fucking contract law because you signed one!
I wont elaborate yet while you were still shitting your diapers we were already inputting code I know how to go into the files.
What we are talking about is the moment you alter the game you are in contravention of the TOS the 3rd party programs is SPECIFICALLY written into a very long with MANY chapters and less specific reasons why Blizzard Corp can decide they don't like you enough to allow you to access your account.

Editing your save is not altering your game It doesn't change any file that blizzard distributes to you. A save file is not software. There is no third party programs involved It's not really a remarkable statement to say blizzard could ban you for any reason lol. There's no reason to believe they would exercise that on save editing any more than on making an Enigma in a

Shadow Plate

Anyways. I don't really think it's productive for us to go back and forth, of course do whatever u like with your saves and editing/not editing them

You don't get it do you. let's get hypothetical: you change your files change all your characters to Shreks make a video upload it. For some reason it goes Viral you make good Money from that Video you are now in contravention of two parts of the TOS one you altered the game doesn't matter how you did it but you've also used it to make money off a product you didn't ask permission to do so. BLIZZARD the multi billion dollar corp decides it wants to unleash it's lawyers at you.
Was changing the characters looks a 3rd party program? NO Did all you do is change local files? Yes. Does this make you any less in contravention of the TOS? NO.

The TOS and how it's enforced is at the discretion of Blizzard. You're arguing that one of the most ANAL companies against MODs of it's products doesn't take anything seriously because it's user side.