Opinion: Single Player Infinity Base

I'm nearing being able to make Infinity on single player (1

Ber away!), and I'm not sure if I want to make it in a nice elite base for maximum mercenary effectiveness, or if I want to make it in a

Scythe to use with my

Nova sorceress. I use that setup with my online version, offline I am currently running Crescent Moon Runeword and Spirit, which I actually think is also pretty nice. It's obviously going to be shared between characters, so I'm not sure how much my other toons will suffer if the merc uses a non-elite Infinity (I guess it depends on the character). I am leaning towards using an elite base, but just wanted to see if there were any opinions on this, thanks!

This is just my opinion, as I also play both online and SSF and I also am familiar with both self wield Infinity and Insight.

I like self wield Infinity myself, only bc the mercs aura lags by the 2 seocond pulse timer, even when you

Teleport. However; your

Conviction aura will proc as soon as you reach the

Teleport destination.

On the other hand, if you are not playing HC SSF, you can always run a 200% ES

Nova build by self wielding Insight.

In any even, the engine is online, but when you are ES

Nova Sorc, do you even really care what damage your Merc is doing? Lol.

Hope that helps.

Bizington wrote: 19 hours ago

This is just my opinion, as I also play both online and SSF and I also am familiar with both self wield Infinity and Insight.

I like self wield Infinity myself, only bc the mercs aura lags by the 2 seocond pulse timer, even when you

Teleport. However; your

Conviction aura will proc as soon as you reach the

Teleport destination.

On the other hand, if you are not playing HC SSF, you can always run a 200% ES

Nova build by self wielding Insight.

In any even, the engine is online, but when you are ES

Nova Sorc, do you even really care what damage your Merc is doing? Lol.

Hope that helps.

I definitely don't care what damage he is doing when I'm playing the

Nova sorc, but I might on other classes, that's the only issue. I'm really not sure xD

This is good info though! I knew about the lag on the aura, didn't realize it was that long. It's something to think about.

It depends on how many chars should use the Infi.

1. If your

Nova Sorc is your main and you intend to play her more than all other elemental builds, then go for a self-wield Infinity just for your

Nova Sorc. it is mighty strong because the minus enemy light res fully applies. It gets lost if your merc carries the Infi (see below).

2. Or you make it in an elite base for your merc. That will benefit many other builds, for example: Javazon, Fire Sorc, Cold Sorc, Fire Dudu, Dream or Dragon Pala and many more. And your

Nova Sorc also profits from it, but not half as much as from a self-wield Infi.

I also didn't take into account that if I give it to the merc, then I won't have Insight for mana sustain anymore. I could self-wield that instead but then I lose the minus enemy light res from CM. Looking more like self-wield Infinity actually is the way to go.

justinman114 wrote: 17 hours ago

I also didn't take into account that if I give it to the merc, then I won't have Insight for mana sustain anymore. I could self-wield that instead but then I lose the minus enemy light res from CM. Looking more like self-wield Infinity actually is the way to go.

If you can gamble a

Silkweave, its not as good as Insight but does make sorc playable without it

justinman114 wrote: 17 hours ago

I also didn't take into account that if I give it to the merc, then I won't have Insight for mana sustain anymore. I could self-wield that instead but then I lose the minus enemy light res from CM. Looking more like self-wield Infinity actually is the way to go.

Hey old buddy, if you want the absolutely best look for your self wielding

Nova sorc, then I have Ethereal Infinity

War Scythe - you can have 1 for free.

Let me know

retepnap wrote: 14 hours ago

justinman114 wrote: 17 hours ago

I also didn't take into account that if I give it to the merc, then I won't have Insight for mana sustain anymore. I could self-wield that instead but then I lose the minus enemy light res from CM. Looking more like self-wield Infinity actually is the way to go.

Hey old buddy, if you want the absolutely best look for your self wielding

Nova sorc, then I have Ethereal Infinity

War Scythe - you can have 1 for free.

Let me know

Thanks buddy but this is on single player!

Is the

War Scythe really more pretty than the

Scythe though?

justinman114 wrote: 12 hours ago

Is the

War Scythe really more pretty than the

Scythe though?

More importantly, a

War Scythe has a dex req of 80, ethereal at 70. With 20att

Annihilus and 20att

Hellfire Torch you are at 65, so it's not optimal. Having an ethereal Infinity for self-wielding purposes is not optimal either since you can't pre-cast

Cyclone Armor at will (before

Energy Shield).

If you want to use normal base Infinity for your merc, bear in mind that he will be dying to having next to no damage to leech from unless you can clear any content before he gets into action.

I'd recommend 4OS non-Ethereal

Yari .101 str requirement is more than easy for a Sorc. your merc and javazon have it by default.
Damage is ok-ish, speed with Treachery or Hustle on merc is enough. Why choose

Yari: you can use it on a sorc, on your merc or someday to try it on your javazon. It is not perfect choice for any setup but very versatile and gives you options. Since it is your first one and you don't plan selling it - this is way to go.

Online I have Infinity in

Stygian Pike and in

Mancatcher (one in LOD one in RoTW). Both are Ethereal.
Next one will be either

Yari or

Brandistock/

Spetum.

Queegon wrote: 9 hours ago

justinman114 wrote: 12 hours ago

Is the

War Scythe really more pretty than the

Scythe though?

More importantly, a

War Scythe has a dex req of 80, ethereal at 70. With 20att

Annihilus and 20att

Hellfire Torch you are at 65, so it's not optimal. Having an ethereal Infinity for self-wielding purposes is not optimal either since you can't pre-cast

Cyclone Armor at will (before

Energy Shield).

If you want to use normal base Infinity for your merc, bear in mind that he will be dying to having next to no damage to leech from unless you can clear any content before he gets into action.

True. But important? You

Sacrifice 5 DEX pts. If that matters, then your doing it wrong imo

And ofcourse this is not for merc, why would anyone need to explain that - hence "self-wielding" ...

Have a nice day all !

dionisy_cn wrote: 6 hours ago

I'd recommend 4OS non-Ethereal

Yari .101 str requirement is more than easy for a Sorc.

Why a

Yari? Wasted points for strenght. A 95% ES

Nova sorc wants and needs all points into Energy. Not a single point anywhere else. That means a weapon of normal tier like

Scythe,

Voulge,

Spetum is the only viable option.

mikelessar wrote: 1 hour ago

Why a

Yari? Wasted points for strenghts. A 95% ES

Nova sorc wants and needs all points into Energy. Not a single point anywhere else. That means a weapon of normal tier like

Scythe,

Voulge,

Spetum is the only viable option.

The assumption here is it's offline (without cheating), so you want to have a base that could theoretically be used for merc as well.
Novasorc is famously run at 81 strength for ethereal

Sandstorm Trek, and up to 96 strength total, or even less than that, if you are running some res

Boots. Enough for a

Sigon's Guard or

Lidless Wall on swap. Even better, with a Call To Arms in a staff with

Energy Shield,

Chilling Armor,

Thunder Storm.

I run mine split between life and energy, so she isn't cursed in WSK with blood magic. The witches there, or was it

Baal, have a frequent tendency to curse me and make me spend my life over mana. With life above mana I get a different curse on me. Probably not optimal, since this is the only area for it, but allows easy

Baal killing.

And with that there's no good universe where you get to have the cake and eat it, OP. You will have to make concessions elsewhere to justify a normal base for both, or elite base for both.

Queegon wrote: 1 hour ago

mikelessar wrote: 1 hour ago

Why a

Yari? Wasted points for strenghts. A 95% ES

Nova sorc wants and needs all points into Energy. Not a single point anywhere else. That means a weapon of normal tier like

Scythe,

Voulge,

Spetum is the only viable option.

The assumption here is it's offline (without cheating), so you want to have a base that could theoretically be used for merc as well.
Novasorc is famously run at 81 strength for ethereal

Sandstorm Trek, and up to 96 strength total, or even less than that, if you are running some res

Boots. Enough for a

Sigon's Guard or

Lidless Wall on swap. Even better, with a Call To Arms in a staff with

Energy Shield,

Chilling Armor,

Thunder Storm.

I run mine split between life and energy, so she isn't cursed in WSK with blood magic. The witches there, or was it

Baal, have a frequent tendency to curse me and make me spend my life over mana. With life above mana I get a different curse on me. Probably not optimal, since this is the only area for it, but allows easy

Baal killing.

And with that there's no good universe where you get to have the cake and eat it, OP. You will have to make concessions elsewhere to justify a normal base for both, or elite base for both.

I've never tried keeping HP above mana to negate the blood mana curse, what do your pools look like number-wise in that scenario? She is definitely scary to use in WSK lol

justinman114 wrote: 58 minutes ago

Queegon wrote: 1 hour ago

mikelessar wrote: 1 hour ago

Why a

Yari? Wasted points for strenghts. A 95% ES

Nova sorc wants and needs all points into Energy. Not a single point anywhere else. That means a weapon of normal tier like

Scythe,

Voulge,

Spetum is the only viable option.

The assumption here is it's offline (without cheating), so you want to have a base that could theoretically be used for merc as well.
Novasorc is famously run at 81 strength for ethereal

Sandstorm Trek, and up to 96 strength total, or even less than that, if you are running some res

Boots. Enough for a

Sigon's Guard or

Lidless Wall on swap. Even better, with a Call To Arms in a staff with

Energy Shield,

Chilling Armor,

Thunder Storm.

I run mine split between life and energy, so she isn't cursed in WSK with blood magic. The witches there, or was it

Baal, have a frequent tendency to curse me and make me spend my life over mana. With life above mana I get a different curse on me. Probably not optimal, since this is the only area for it, but allows easy

Baal killing.

And with that there's no good universe where you get to have the cake and eat it, OP. You will have to make concessions elsewhere to justify a normal base for both, or elite base for both.

I've never tried keeping HP above mana to negate the blood mana curse, what do your pools look like number-wise in that scenario? She is definitely scary to use in WSK lol

If you go for the ethereal look (and ofcourse, also if you dont :p ) - you just assign "lightning" attack on your left mouse click - that way you can still do a significant amount of dmg while not caring too much about the blood mana curse.

justinman114 wrote: 58 minutes ago

I've never tried keeping HP above mana to negate the blood mana curse, what do your pools look like number-wise in that scenario? She is definitely scary to use in WSK lol

It's something like 17xx-18xx health and 17xx+-18xx+ mana, if I remember correctly. Just need to have one mana above your life total. I dislike waiting, so it saves time. Otherwise you can still just out-Cure it with

Cleansing aura.

Queegon wrote: 1 hour ago

The assumption here is it's offline (without cheating), so you want to have a base that could theoretically be used for merc as well.
Novasorc is famously run at 81 strength for ethereal

Sandstorm Trek, and up to 96 strength total, or even less than that, if you are running some res

Boots. Enough for a

Sigon's Guard or

Lidless Wall on swap. Even better, with a Call To Arms in a staff with

Energy Shield,

Chilling Armor,

Thunder Storm.

As long as ES is not maxed, a CtA in a staff makes sense, but then a sword CTA + ethLidless Wall (48 str) is preferable.

1 point into Thunderstorm can be done but Thunderstorm does like 1% of your damage, so yeah, completely optional.

My

Nova Sorc wears

Caster Boots with FRW, FHR, Mana, Poison res and Poison Lengths Reduction with just 30 strengths required. But such

Boots are much rarer and more expensive than Treks for sure.

I have 1009 life and 3520 mana. Because I have a 20 FCR amulet and I dropped an SoJ for a 10 FCR ring (going to be replaced with an

Opalvein soon!), I could squeece in

Frostburn for osme extra mana.

Baal's Blood Curse can be a bit annoying in combination with his mana burn attak, I usually have to drink 1 Full Rej Potion per

Baal kill, but in Nihli's temple it's usually not a big problem.

Prayer+Insight+Cure auras limit the duration of the Blood curse to a few seconds.