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Started here on Diablo. Io 4 years ago, then I tried Traderie.
I have currently over 5 thousand trades completed, also traderie has 20-30x more users than diablo. Io
You cannot get fake reviews on traderie or reviews from the same user as you can do so on diablo. Io, therefore your trader status on traderie is more solid.
But I still post and trade on diablo. Io every time I get the chance.
Traderie has many better options like looking for specific stats for items, people looking for certain items or recent trades page.
I have currently over 5 thousand trades completed, also traderie has 20-30x more users than diablo. Io
You cannot get fake reviews on traderie or reviews from the same user as you can do so on diablo. Io, therefore your trader status on traderie is more solid.
But I still post and trade on diablo. Io every time I get the chance.
Traderie has many better options like looking for specific stats for items, people looking for certain items or recent trades page.
Somehow you are right and wrong....I still remember you trying to buy something with Cham.Pitach wrote: 1 day agoYou cannot get fake reviews on traderie or reviews from the same user as you can do so on diablo. Io, therefore your trader status on traderie is more solid.
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Traderie has many better options like looking for specific stats for items, people looking for certain items or recent trades page.
The review, there, it's different, they use 1 Perfect Amethyst or Hel to buy review. it's legal way.
The dark way, I notice there is a group of account/people, they fake review each other. It is big group, often show on Perfect Gems trade.
if you constant use trade window, those group will notify you and they will block you. I remember I see several 1000 trade review account built in that group. They have some way to prevent real people to leave negative review.(bot way) Usually those super account is related to 30 Jah exchange 140 xxx
very expensive trade... It must be very careful.
In end, I did find some look not too cheap but slightly close to average price , exchange 120 Jah worth Ber. I cant remember detail but those field have some looks very strange 1000 trade review account.
The review here is more trustworthy. But sales over there is 100x more than here.
Price, well, it is more close to average....tradie is good in my opinion.
Like facet , over there,
you can see 2 Ist for perfect p/c facet, or 3-5 Ist for f/l facet.
But people here still believe it is Ber per perfect facet and no deal at all...
Or tradie sell 110 Amn = Ist while here , sometimes 50 Amn = Ist still work.
It is double Edge, hard to say which is better...
Please be aware, all my trade is in non ladder d2r. Not warlock.
I really don't understand peoples problems with traderie, the site works, the systems work, if something has gone wrong with you and the site then I'm sorry, but it's almost certainly a user error. It's a solid site and 90% of users are legit good people.
There are of course bots making posts but it's a very easy to work around and barely a real annoyance. The search filter is amazing and vastly superior to any other site I have seen.
There are of course bots making posts but it's a very easy to work around and barely a real annoyance. The search filter is amazing and vastly superior to any other site I have seen.
I have made almost 400 trades on Traderie and here is my evaluation:
On the pro-side for Traderie:
- Lots of people trade there
- the search option are MUCH better than on D2io
- When I do bulk trades I always drop the runes/gems on Ground and all trade partners have been fair so far and have also dropped their runes.
- It's very easy and usually quite cheap and fast to buy items of sub- Jah value.
- The review system works well, mostly. You give 5 stars if a trade was good. You can also give 1-4 stars but you will have to fear a "1 star revenge review".
- You get badges for a specific amount of completed trades: bronze, silver, Gold, platinum, Diamond. Some people might likes this.
On the con-side:
- Top-tier items are often massively overpriced. Ignore them. So you might have to search a bit until you find an item with fair value for money.
- Some people appear as online but they are not and will never react to your messages and offers.
- After a successful trade, I always give a 5 star review, but about 25% of all people I have traded with do not review me back.
- After 20 hours you must "re-activate" every single item you have on offer with one click for every item. The "bump all with one click" option is for paying members only.
- The customer service is very bad. Once (fortunately only once) I got a 1 star revenge review and I have sent a complaint about it with proof that the review violates their conditions, but they have done nothing until now (It was one year ago.). And I also can't file the complaint again because they have saved my first complaint and do not allow further complaints. For them it is an "ongoing case" but clearly, it is not. They just give a shait (Irish accent) about it.
- Low-balling: Sometimes popular items (like Renewed sunders) are listed with an unusually low price by several people, so that potential sellers that do not know this trick think that their item is only worth 1 Jah when in fact it is worth 4+ Jah. They list it for 1 Jah like the other 5 or 10 cheapest people and immediately someone buys it for 1 Jah and then offers it for 5 Jah.
But usually the lowballers do not reject (=delete) the countless 1 Jah offers they receive. So you can clearly tell that these are not honest listings.
On the pro-side for Traderie:
- Lots of people trade there
- the search option are MUCH better than on D2io
- When I do bulk trades I always drop the runes/gems on Ground and all trade partners have been fair so far and have also dropped their runes.
- It's very easy and usually quite cheap and fast to buy items of sub- Jah value.
- The review system works well, mostly. You give 5 stars if a trade was good. You can also give 1-4 stars but you will have to fear a "1 star revenge review".
- You get badges for a specific amount of completed trades: bronze, silver, Gold, platinum, Diamond. Some people might likes this.
On the con-side:
- Top-tier items are often massively overpriced. Ignore them. So you might have to search a bit until you find an item with fair value for money.
- Some people appear as online but they are not and will never react to your messages and offers.
- After a successful trade, I always give a 5 star review, but about 25% of all people I have traded with do not review me back.
- After 20 hours you must "re-activate" every single item you have on offer with one click for every item. The "bump all with one click" option is for paying members only.
- The customer service is very bad. Once (fortunately only once) I got a 1 star revenge review and I have sent a complaint about it with proof that the review violates their conditions, but they have done nothing until now (It was one year ago.). And I also can't file the complaint again because they have saved my first complaint and do not allow further complaints. For them it is an "ongoing case" but clearly, it is not. They just give a shait (Irish accent) about it.
- Low-balling: Sometimes popular items (like Renewed sunders) are listed with an unusually low price by several people, so that potential sellers that do not know this trick think that their item is only worth 1 Jah when in fact it is worth 4+ Jah. They list it for 1 Jah like the other 5 or 10 cheapest people and immediately someone buys it for 1 Jah and then offers it for 5 Jah.
But usually the lowballers do not reject (=delete) the countless 1 Jah offers they receive. So you can clearly tell that these are not honest listings.
Well, you don't see any problem if 10% of the people there are not good people? I have also made mostly positive experiences but it's not all good on Traderie (see my post above). You have mentioned the bots but what annoys me the most are the "ghosts" (People that are "online" but have probably died some decades ago).Bobfromwork wrote: 1 day agoI really don't understand peoples problems with traderie, the site works, the systems work, if something has gone wrong with you and the site then I'm sorry, but it's almost certainly a user error. It's a solid site and 90% of users are legit good people.
There are of course bots making posts but it's a very easy to work around and barely a real annoyance. The search filter is amazing and vastly superior to any other site I have seen.
The search options are great, that's for sure.
Some are reasonable but most people have green circle in their items are usually overpriced. (at least 4x then that item really done trade)mikelessar wrote: 4 hours ago
On the con-side:
- Top-tier items are often massively overpriced. Ignore them. So you might have to search a bit until you find an item with fair value for money.
I usually block them if they have green bounder and they have 3 item over priced. (that means they are try to catch high and not care about sales, it could happen but usually take few year to sell)
It is reasonable to sell some charm in price 14-22 but not too high.
Also some rare item, if they have 6 hit affix will worth some but if they put something like 100 Jah or 2 x special charm, then it will heavily depends if 6 is all correct and high to perfect roll...
Some people have 1 affix low roll... try to price everything in that field is not right...
Also if you make offer to those not so perfect item, they are going to say it is too low. Try once or twice , then best way is to block them, not do 'offer' another price thing.
The offer another price only works on well known things , like they request Ist but if you put 15 Perfect Skull/ 20 Perfect Gems, it may work.(50%-90%)
Please be aware, all my trade is in non ladder d2r. Not warlock.
I don't think I said 10% aren't good people, I said 90% are good people, the rest are; unresponsive, botting their listings, confused or careless about using the site and just make things a little chaotic.mikelessar wrote: 4 hours agoWell, you don't see any problem if 10% of the people there are not good people? I have also made mostly positive experiences but it's not all good on Traderie (see my post above). You have mentioned the bots but what annoys me the most are the "ghosts" (People that are "online" but have probably died some decades ago).Bobfromwork wrote: 1 day agoI really don't understand peoples problems with traderie, the site works, the systems work, if something has gone wrong with you and the site then I'm sorry, but it's almost certainly a user error. It's a solid site and 90% of users are legit good people.
There are of course bots making posts but it's a very easy to work around and barely a real annoyance. The search filter is amazing and vastly superior to any other site I have seen.
The search options are great, that's for sure.
I guess I don't think it a big deal, it's easy to work around and won't take up much time at all, barely any.
For me it's about as big of a problem as tying my shoes to go outside, in other words, not a problem, just something that happens.
The upsides far outweigh the downsides, in my opinion.
I sell stuff there all the time, never had an issue.
Only problem, IMO, is that people are usually in a hurry: you need to keep a Traderie tab open and pay attention to notifications. If you don't reply to an offer in the 10-20 minute range at the latest, they go away.
Only problem, IMO, is that people are usually in a hurry: you need to keep a Traderie tab open and pay attention to notifications. If you don't reply to an offer in the 10-20 minute range at the latest, they go away.
I'm pretty good at tieing my shoes. Have done this for some years now. But hoping that someone responds to your offers sometimes is a real pain. I have been trying to buy a Renewed sunder and I have met the asking price of more than 10 offers, sometimes exceeding the offers. Did not get one reply in days. My guess is that these are fake listings that make people list their sunders for cheap so that the whales can buy them. This happens a lot on the PoE trading platforms. Need to add rhis to my "con" arguments.Bobfromwork wrote: 1 hour agoI don't think I said 10% aren't good people, I said 90% are good people, the rest are; unresponsive, botting their listings, confused or careless about using the site and just make things a little chaotic.mikelessar wrote: 4 hours agoWell, you don't see any problem if 10% of the people there are not good people? I have also made mostly positive experiences but it's not all good on Traderie (see my post above). You have mentioned the bots but what annoys me the most are the "ghosts" (People that are "online" but have probably died some decades ago).Bobfromwork wrote: 1 day agoI really don't understand peoples problems with traderie, the site works, the systems work, if something has gone wrong with you and the site then I'm sorry, but it's almost certainly a user error. It's a solid site and 90% of users are legit good people.
There are of course bots making posts but it's a very easy to work around and barely a real annoyance. The search filter is amazing and vastly superior to any other site I have seen.
The search options are great, that's for sure.
I guess I don't think it a big deal, it's easy to work around and won't take up much time at all, barely any.
For me it's about as big of a problem as tying my shoes to go outside, in other words, not a problem, just something that happens.
The upsides far outweigh the downsides, in my opinion.
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