Bone Necro needs a buff
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So, I have been playing a Bone Necromancer for the past weeks and even if with GG gear Bone Spear only reaches around 5k damage. It's nice to have Bone Prison and Bone Wall and kind of makes killing bosses pretty easy. In terms of overall kill speed (with 125 fc) it's still kind of a disappointing experience. Would be nice to see some buffs in the next version. Maybe just increasing the synergy values or let Concentration aura also buff the necros Bone skill damage (similar to Blessed Hammer)? What is your take on it?
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So, I have been playing a Bone Necromancer for the past weeks and even if with GG gear Bone Spear only reaches around 5k damage. It's nice to have Bone Prison and Bone Wall and kind of makes killing bosses pretty easy. In terms of overall kill speed (with 125 fc) it's still kind of a disappointing experience. Would be nice to see some buffs in the next version. Maybe just increasing the synergy values or let Concentration aura also buff the necros Bone skill damage (similar to Blessed Hammer)? What is your take on it?
Lower Resist should include magic resist
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No offense but 5k doesn't really sound like gg gear.
Bone Spear and Spirit dmg is fine as you can reasonably push 25-30k dps with either of them.
Got no problems clearing P8 with mine.
Teeth could use a (significant) buff though as that does fall behind noticeably in many cases (higher player counts, larger mobs). Up to the synergy bonus for that to 25-30% and call it a day imo.
Lower res including magic really isn't needed and honestly would be a bit overkill for Spear/Spirit which are already rather strong.
Apart from the Teeth thing, Bone necros are honestly in a pretty good spot, now that we got the new RotW gear to play with.
The only things I would still reasonably see as potential fair changes would be lowering the mana cost of Bone Spirit a bit and increasing the synergy bonus for Spirit, Spear and Teeth by 33% across the board (on top of the Teeth buff noted above) while also removing Bone Wall as a synergy for all of them.
The latter would effectively leave the damage unchanged but would drop the comparably ridiculous skill point requirements for a Bone necro. Precious few other builds require a full 102 skill points solely to get their core abilities maxed out.
Bone Spear and Spirit dmg is fine as you can reasonably push 25-30k dps with either of them.
Got no problems clearing P8 with mine.
Teeth could use a (significant) buff though as that does fall behind noticeably in many cases (higher player counts, larger mobs). Up to the synergy bonus for that to 25-30% and call it a day imo.
Lower res including magic really isn't needed and honestly would be a bit overkill for Spear/Spirit which are already rather strong.
Apart from the Teeth thing, Bone necros are honestly in a pretty good spot, now that we got the new RotW gear to play with.
The only things I would still reasonably see as potential fair changes would be lowering the mana cost of Bone Spirit a bit and increasing the synergy bonus for Spirit, Spear and Teeth by 33% across the board (on top of the Teeth buff noted above) while also removing Bone Wall as a synergy for all of them.
The latter would effectively leave the damage unchanged but would drop the comparably ridiculous skill point requirements for a Bone necro. Precious few other builds require a full 102 skill points solely to get their core abilities maxed out.
Is this even possible?Schnorki wrote: 6 hours agoBone Spear and Spirit dmg is fine as you can reasonably push 25-30k dps with either of them.
I have never seem or heard of Bone Spear reaching 10k in damage with full synergy and with max gears let alone 25+k in damage…
Unless Bone spears got ninja buff past year that i didnt know about…
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Not just damage, it's damage per second he was talking about.d2rppa69 wrote: 6 hours agoIs this even possible?Schnorki wrote: 6 hours agoBone Spear and Spirit dmg is fine as you can reasonably push 25-30k dps with either of them.
I have never seem or heard of Bone Spear reaching 10k in damage with full synergy and with max gears let alone 25+k in damage…
Unless Bone spears got ninja buff past year that i didnt know about…
The main issue with necro is every necromancer build is really just a way to kill 1 monster than you become a Corpse Explosion necro
I dont think Snorki is implying dmg per second.. otherwise he would stated so? If he did, it still doesnt apply well for Bone Spear.Flyhorse wrote: 5 hours agoNot just damage, it's damage per second he was talking about.d2rppa69 wrote: 6 hours agoIs this even possible?Schnorki wrote: 6 hours agoBone Spear and Spirit dmg is fine as you can reasonably push 25-30k dps with either of them.
I have never seem or heard of Bone Spear reaching 10k in damage with full synergy and with max gears let alone 25+k in damage…
Unless Bone spears got ninja buff past year that i didnt know about…
One cant reliably stand still and shoot as fast as possible n expect 25-30k output within 1 second assuming the aiming is always perfect and not get interrupted by mobs, so to me, the sheet damage for Bone Spear tells a better story as its THAT amount of dmg one can expect it to deal per hit.
So my original statement still stands
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You should be a little above level 40 on BSpe / BSpi, I suppose. Adding the new reduction on magic res, it's better than before and still a good allrounder.
And Schnorki's suggestion is almost the same as mine, except that I'd unsynergize Bone Prison instead of Bone Wall (if I remember well Bone Prison is forbidden in PvP while BW is not). Bone Prison becomes a 1 point Wonder, Bone Armor less powerful.
And Schnorki's suggestion is almost the same as mine, except that I'd unsynergize Bone Prison instead of Bone Wall (if I remember well Bone Prison is forbidden in PvP while BW is not). Bone Prison becomes a 1 point Wonder, Bone Armor less powerful.
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DPS is short for damage per second. So yes.d2rppa69 wrote: 4 hours ago[..]
I dont think Snorki is implying dmg per second.. otherwise he would stated so? If he did, it still doesnt apply well for Bone Spear.
One cant reliably stand still and shoot as fast as possible n expect 25-30k output within 1 second assuming the aiming is always perfect and not get interrupted by mobs, so to me, the sheet damage for Bone Spear tells a better story as its THAT amount of dmg one can expect it to deal per hit.
So my original statement still stands
You can push both, Spear and Spirit to around 25-30k+ dps (depending on build priorities). And given some practice, that is absolutely real dps as you'll simply tele a few steps away so as not to get interrupted as your merc/golem take 1 step in and tank whatever might be thrown at you to interrupt. Aiming practice is the 2nd half of that, obviously.
In terms of real per hit dmg, you're instead looking at 10-11k+ for the two once geared, certainly not 5k.
Arbitrary PvP rules are arbitrary. Wouldn't use those as an argument for anything.Necrarch wrote: 3 hours ago[..] (if I remember well Bone Prison is forbidden in PvP while BW is not) [..]
Besides, today's PvP rules are just watered down and silly anyways imo. League rules 25 yrs ago were far superior.
It would be cool if the spears had a little splash damage. or if you shoot through a Bone Wall that added some AOE damage.
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