I tried Cleave Warlock today.

Hi, All.
Since

Cleave looks so nice in skill description, I decided to try it. I did it all offline starting from scratch.
I was actually leveling with it from the beginning and it went pretty smooth.
I also found nice Cursed +

Conviction demon in Nightmare A4 who travelled with me till end of the Hell A5. He died only because I started jumping right in the middle of P8 hardest try my build.

My test gear: Full Horazon set (non socketed) with so-so rolls , no anni or torch. 28 resist Mara, 4% Bull Kathos ring. Other ring I was changing back and forth digging through my stash.

Belt:

String of Ears /Thundergod/ Immortal King

I made this to try different weapon and find best one to kill cows offline.
With badly rolled Oath in

Balrog Blade he is actually doing his best. Sword sweeps fast and cows are in hit recovery most of times. I use Hex:purge for the speed.
Other weapon tested :
1. Obedience in

Mancatcher : nice and has added range 4 reaching so many cows at once! Slow though. And need to repair quite often (or carry

Ort rune in the cube)
2: Immortal King crusher: small range, slow despite 2*

Shael in sockets.
3:

Tomb Reaver : nice to farm

Chaos Sanctuary but too slow to hold wall of approaching p8 cows.
4: Obedience in

War Pike: by feeling little bit slower than

Mancatcher. Damage difference not noticeable
5: Oath in feral and Silver

Axe. Both slower than

Balrog Blade .
6: CTA in a

Flail : fastest swinging speed among all (it is if I forgot to switch after a buff) .

All weapon I later tested again replacing Mara amulet with Highlord. No difference as for me.

To do: find 4OS

Eth

Scourge to make Oath and give it a try. This should work is switching from Purge to Bane.


Overall impression:
1- strong character for next ladder. Goes with cheap gear very well . Just don't do P8 cows solo.
2 Still has range capability via ES
3 Travelling with Harmony in hand and been able to multi shoot Mobs without switching is nice too
4. Disappointed by seeing that my Fully synergized

Cleave with 13 hard points does only half damage compared to 1 point invested ES.


Have anyone else tried

Cleave?
If by any chance you have BOTD in a sword, thunder mall and

War Pike please give it a try and tell me speed observation results. One day I'll get that

Zod.

Other weapon tested:
Non-upped Non Ethereal

Hone Sundan: slow even with 3

Shael in it.
I have nice

Eth one online. Next time one of my Warlocks will die I'll give it a try and respec. Will go into testing together with the Executioner Justice i found on one of my mules off ladder.

Horazon

Tornado: fast, really fast. Swooshes like nothing else. Need frequent repairs because of this . Can do 1/2 to 2/3 of P7 cow level then it need maintenance.

Overall impression: either

Cleave have some hardcoded break points for eash weapon or I was unable to reach them by adding Shaels to weapons in my test.
Hope one day it will be datamined

ShadowHeart wrote: 15 hours ago

dionisy_cn wrote: 19 hours ago

Overall impression: either

Cleave have some hardcoded break points for eash weapon or I was unable to reach them by adding Shaels to weapons in my test.
Hope one day it will be datamined

According to Warren (the guy who made the most accurate / up-to-date IAS calculator for D2R, which the one here at diablo2.io is a fork of):

Cleave and

Mirrored Blades use hardcoded sequence skills, so until someone datamines this out of the code or bruteforces every single EIAS breakpoint, those skills won't be included.

Source: https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/

(“won’t be included” refers to that he’s deliberately left them out of the IAS calculator for now)

Yes. this is first place I actually went to find what weapon will best suite my Sweeper. I am not good at bruteforcing and recording or datamining. Just did what I could and shared my own impression. Hope one day there will be more accurate results and tables.
I still have many weapons to try (once I will get runes or find that weapon). Sweeper will just stand there waiting for new nice stuff.
I believe I will try online one on next ladder for sure.

ShadowHeart wrote: 15 hours ago

[..]
According to Warren (the guy who made the most accurate / up-to-date IAS calculator for D2R, which the one here at diablo2.io is a fork of):

Cleave and

Mirrored Blades use hardcoded sequence skills, so until someone datamines this out of the code or bruteforces every single EIAS breakpoint, those skills won't be included.

[..]

Has that since been done?
Or is maxroll just pulling their speed numbers out of thin air again?
(Certainly possible, seeing how their entire display for mirrored is still iffy at best and doesn't even include DPS)

Thank you for opening this thread. I am currently playing a

Cleave Warlock and he is in hell midway through act 3. Finally I found the shield of the Horazon set and the set now complete. It is an awesome set imo. No worries about resistances and attack rating.

The weapon I currently use is a

Dreadfang. I also tried a

Bonehew and an Ethereal

Windhammer. The

Windhammer basically crushes everything on players one but with the

Dreadfang

Cleave is way faster and it plays a bit better imo. Up to now the durability of the weapon is not realy an issue.

Concering attack speed I noticed that it seems that for

Cleave the speed of the base weapon is more important to reach higher IAS breakpoints. For

Mirrored Blades the ias on the weapon itself is more important. The

Windhammer is very fast for

Mirrored Blades but kind of slow for

Cleave.

I assume that you will also use

Mirrored Blades in some instances, so it seems like a kind of a trade off concerning the attack speed of both skills.