What would be the least popular (but correct) balance changes?

Lemzodistber wrote: 20 hours ago

Call To Arms should get

Battle Command OR

Battle Orders but not both.

It would be like CtA having BO oskill 0-6. BC's +1 all skills bonus is nice, but minor, especially on an endgame build with plenty of +all skills from other items. OTOH BO's life and mana boost is significant, and it scales with +all skills bonuses.

That's another one for me: CtA should just not exist.

human_being wrote: 6 hours ago

That's another one for me: CtA should just not exist.

Oskills really should not include utilities. Stuff like

Teleport and CTA is just good in every situation on every character. There's no real build decisions. Stuff like

Holy Shield,

Find Item, etc would also be terrible to have on oskills. Stuff like

Blaze,

Leap Attack,

Bone Spear, etc, would be much more balanced.

vued wrote: 17 hours ago

- Remove +1

Teleport from Enigma.
- Add a unique ring that gives +1

Teleport (O-Skill) and both else.

I'm more of an opinion that all the skills casted that are not your class skills should have a penalty in terms of faster cast rate or duration or some sort of efficiency.
Example, when using

Teleport, your faster cast rate gets cut in half.
Casting CTA...cool, here's shorter duration.

In the context of the game that would make more sense, since skills outside your class should come with some kind of penalty or limitation.
That way we who main sorc forever to this day will get that sour taste out of our mouth.

But who will listen to me...

I guess a simple ultimate answer would be to get back to the very first 1.03 patch, no unique, no runewords. We all play like those speed runners. Passing hell would be excessively hard, from the standard today...

louner wrote: 8 hours ago

(each class needs a skill like

Blade Warp instead)

See as much as I like this idea of having a

Teleport skill for ever class, I feel like modifying the available skills is WAY riskier for causing an uproar that tweaking some of the numbers on things.

Remove how OP Enigma/

Teleport is for other characters outside of sorc. You shouldn't be able to just warp all over the map and an entire act in essentially in 3-5 minutes. To me it takes away from the Spirit of the game, personally i won't ever use an Enigma, but i completely understand why 90% of players do and i don't care if my character is just running around all "slow" and how inefficient people will say it is.

phirren wrote: 4 hours ago

Remove how OP Enigma/

Teleport is for other characters outside of sorc. You shouldn't be able to just warp all over the map and an entire act in essentially in 3-5 minutes. To me it takes away from the Spirit of the game, personally i won't ever use an Enigma, but i completely understand why 90% of players do and i don't care if my character is just running around all "slow" and how inefficient people will say it is.

Even sorcs run Enigma. It's just that good

Not all sorcs use Enigma, for example

Nova sorc is BiS with Vipermagi.

The issue with Enigma is that some classes desperately need it for their build to function smoothly. Typically summon necro without a reliable

Teleport (so not only charges) are reaaaally bad (I know, I do play a full Trang set summon-poisoner ^^). And even with it summon necro is definitely not an S-tier build for endgame (though good for "rather afk").

So nerfing Enigma's

Teleport will most likely impact necros, hammerdins... more than sorcs who were already the dominant class before locks came in. If Enigma is too be nerfed, would not do that on the

Teleport, but on the massive +STR + frw which is probably a bit too strong. Or you nerf

Teleport, but for everyone including sorcs, but that makes a slower game for everyone... unlikely to please anyone.

Anyway, discussion that happened already many times with no effect, as Blizzard does not take into account our advice whatsoever.

i really don't get the Spirit bashing. it took me forever to get my first one. and for most chars 156 strength is a heavy investment, i rarely equip it before anni

don't think this game needs that many nerfs, rather p8 in multiplayer and buffs to weaker builds

ganseng wrote: 1 hour ago

i really don't get the Spirit bashing. it took me forever to get my first one. and for most chars 156 strength is a heavy investment, i rarely equip it before anni

don't think this game needs that many nerfs, rather p8 in multiplayer and buffs to weaker builds

It's extremely cheap, easily found and BIS for probably the outright majority of builds.

ganseng wrote: 1 hour ago

i really don't get the Spirit bashing. it took me forever to get my first one. and for most chars 156 strength is a heavy investment, i rarely equip it before anni

don't think this game needs that many nerfs, rather p8 in multiplayer and buffs to weaker builds

I think the issue people have with Spirit is more it's effectiveness in shields vs it's relative cost (made from low runes available in normal difficulty).

That said, the strength requirements of 156 at minimum for Spirit is a fair compensation (less overall max health, more liability to be 1 shot).

Lemzodistber wrote: 1 hour ago

ganseng wrote: 1 hour ago

i really don't get the Spirit bashing. it took me forever to get my first one. and for most chars 156 strength is a heavy investment, i rarely equip it before anni

don't think this game needs that many nerfs, rather p8 in multiplayer and buffs to weaker builds

It's extremely cheap, easily found and BIS for probably the outright majority of builds.

runes are not a problem. shields and strength are a problem. and by the time they are not, most gear is not a problem

i agree more variety would be nice. but then better buff some alternatives..