Best Swap weapons on WW Trav Horker

I'm about to raise Wonkie-Tonkie from a cantankerous teen into a dual Grief graverobber, and I would like your thoughts on the options for swap weapons:

I read several things:

HOTO, Suicide Branch, Wizzy, Ali Baba's... A combination!?

6 isted blades also is mentioned.

Thoughts and experiences most welcome.

I settled on Dual-Alibaba (at least until I found all rings and amulets) and added some fcr via rings and Belt, compromising the Boots for Cannot Be Frozen (Had Cham in the helmet, but replaced it with Protector, so had to find some other means).

Nice, what are you putting in the dual alibabas? Ists? I have two sitting in stash myself and I've been daydreaming about making a horker

Sort of depends on your preference and "acceptance for slow-ness".

6- Ist tends to be the highest MF choice.
6- Lem the same for GF.
Ali baba the best middle-Ground with some "pick your priority" via Lem or Ist in the sockets.

FCR options really don't help you much with "results" (MF/GF) but make your horking faster, lowering your run time.

Exception:
Depending on your level otherwise, some of them (suicide/hoto/..) might push your Find Item high enough to increase the percentage. That'd then have to be math'd against more MF and such.

Other than that though, any speed-horker would likely be Enigma-based and have some decent degree of FCR/faster horking built in because of that anyways. Assuming you're not offloading all of that onto the weapon (and hence losing it on swap), I'd personally go for MF or GF (or both tbh..big fan of dual isted baba for nearly as much MF while keeping solid GF) over even more FCR as the difference in speed tends to not be that impactful anymore.

Side note:
Haven't actually tested this myself yet but assuming the "only 1" limit for the new jewels applies to each specific jewel individually, you could actually use a number of those to get up to 35 MF plus simultaneous GF out of each socket, rather than only 30 off an Ist. Say 1 in your actual build for performance reasons. Still leaves you with 5 more for your swap weapons (with only 4 needed if you stick with baba).

I pondered a while with Ist vs Lem, and settled there is no right or wrong, it depends on how much you like to gamble. Even with full Ists at times I let Gold on the Ground because I don't want to gamble right now... And some additional FCR to the Enigma helps the flow of teleporting and horking in my experience, while compromising only little kill speed if at all.

Schnorki wrote: 4 months ago

Side note:
Haven't actually tested this myself yet but assuming the "only 1" limit for the new jewels applies to each specific jewel individually, you could actually use a number of those to get up to 35 MF plus simultaneous GF out of each socket, rather than only 30 off an Ist. Say 1 in your actual build for performance reasons. Still leaves you with 5 more for your swap weapons (with only 4 needed if you stick with baba).

Hah, that's something I'll give a shot.

TRAV's drop is not good enough.

I recommend you use 6 socket Lem x 2.

if tz, you can swap it to ali baba or 6 Ist .
Keep it between 150-200 is best rate..
I kind of remember it can drop Stone of jodan, light absorb ring, wedding ring but no griffon.

rune pg is not affect by mf.

unless there is new things can find in rotw.

It's jewelery heavy yeah, no griffons to be had. I'd "farm" those via TZ Bossruns anyways... Trav drops jewelery consistently. And charms. Lots and lots of charms.

TeleTabitha wrote: 4 months ago

It's jewelery heavy yeah, no griffons to be had. I'd "farm" those via TZ Bossruns anyways... Trav drops jewelery consistently. And charms. Lots and lots of charms.

Treasure class: 78

good thing usually tc 85., like warlock's new book is 85

charms-> mf not affect drop
jewel->your mf can make it become rare or facet but not increase drop rate.

Blue jewel usually have higher chance to become something worth. Rare jewel have too big pool to roll, cant be good.

With jewelery I mean rings and amulets

trav can drop blue/yellow thing, those I believe it can show some valuable thing.

4 socket magic shield/armor

if you have too high mf, it will just drop Guardian Angel or some unique.

soj, yes, you can find it.

I am running a ww barb that I use for horking and I've been loving the dual ali baba with ists in them. Really gives you a ton of magic find on only two items. I am sure there are better combinations but I have been enjoying that one and it is fairly cheap all things considered.

justinman114 wrote: 4 months ago

TeleTabitha wrote: 4 months ago

It's jewelery heavy yeah, no griffons to be had. I'd "farm" those via TZ Bossruns anyways... Trav drops jewelery consistently. And charms. Lots and lots of charms.

I have found at least 2 Griffon's Eye in TZ Trav. Regular Trav maybe can't drop it but I usually hork TZ. It's not super common to find sick uniques in Trav, but it definitely happens.

I also do mf in tz trav too.
I have 2 different setup.

For regular trav, I do Gold and target blue/rare. Because there are better place to find soj.
TZ trav, Ist it up. but still only between 250-400 mf.

I couldn't be arsed to respec for pure horker - had Grief and Lawbringer with Heart Carver for the skill and Blade Of Ali Baba on swap. Larzuk the Heart Carver, Ist runes in that and Ali.

I was using a triple Perfect Topaz Helm for a bit as I had no more Ist and needed the mf. Mf small charms a plenty too.

Schnorki wrote: 4 months ago

Side note:
Haven't actually tested this myself yet but assuming the "only 1" limit for the new jewels applies to each specific jewel individually, you could actually use a number of those to get up to 35 MF plus simultaneous GF out of each socket, rather than only 30 off an Ist. Say 1 in your actual build for performance reasons. Still leaves you with 5 more for your swap weapons (with only 4 needed if you stick with baba).

Curiosity wouldn't let me rest so went ahead and actually tested this:
The limit does indeed apply across all jewels. So no combining different ones. Neither in the same item nor across different items equipped at the same time.

So yeah, Ist remains the best bet I guess.

ThisGuyThatGuy wrote: 4 months ago

I couldn't be arsed to respec for pure horker - had Grief and Lawbringer with Heart Carver for the skill and Blade Of Ali Baba on swap. Larzuk the Heart Carver, Ist runes in that and Ali.

I was using a triple Perfect Topaz Helm for a bit as I had no more Ist and needed the mf. Mf small charms a plenty too.

basically, you should just choose what you have and feels good to play.

rotw mf is not that important compare to it was in LoD for multiple reasons. You can get mf product easily with Perfect Gems.

So whatever you feel comfortable is the best for you.

Look at mf table, if you get 1 more corpse , means you get totally 200 points better than add small mf by lower performance.
small mf, 100 more, let's say. is only map to 20 point real thing.

best loot soj in my opinion is old andriel which you still can. convert to mf, I guess it is 700mf or more, I dont know .

I think regular trav, you just get best battle suit with exact number + small mf gf. Focus on hunting Perfect Gems.
Other mf things, not so good compare to performance.