Bind Demon + Hork bug makes farming feel pointless

Honestly, this bug completely killed my enjoyment of the game.

Knowing that people can just generate corpses and spam hork for basically free loot makes normal farming feel pointless. I don’t see much reason to keep grinding when something like this exists.

At the same time, abusing it doesn’t feel right either - it just removes any sense of progression or achievement.

What frustrates me the most is that this has already been reported and is clearly known, yet Blizzard hasn’t done anything about it so far

How do you guys feel about it?

I'm trying to look at this as just another "somewhat efficient and extremely boring" way of farming.... like

Lower Kurast farming...

That said, I ignored it, and keep doing my regular play...

I even thought about trying once (just to test...), but ended up quitting... Don't want to spend time after that farming for another good

Bind Demon target....

This exploit was hotfixed yesterday:

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d2r/t ... 312/174742

They waited April 1st ended

ShadowHeart wrote: 14 hours ago

This exploit was hotfixed yesterday:

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d2r/t ... 312/174742

I don’t know when this was initially discovered, but as far as I know it didn’t become public knowledge until Coooley’s video - though I’m fairly certain that some parties have been abusing the hell out of it for a while without anyone being the wiser. At least it’s fixed now.

They really could have used a proper PTR before ladder started…

ShadowHeart wrote: 14 hours ago

This exploit was hotfixed yesterday:

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d2r/t ... 312/174742

Good to know!

Such a game breaking bug, hopefully itll be fixed asap (should already be fixed imo), but most likely must wait for the next ladder at best.

I dislike cheaters and bug abusers strongly. These types of people are the ones into all kinds of grifts and scams.

Semirotta wrote: 14 hours ago

Such a game breaking bug, hopefully itll be fixed asap (should already be fixed imo), but most likely must wait for the next ladder at best.

It was already hotfixed yesterday, like I noted in a post above

folks, just came back from a long hiatus, playing a warlock at the moment, anyone enlightening me what's this shenanigan?

As the bug if fixed... I think we can talk about it

If warlock

Bind Demon a

Fetish Shaman and leave the game out of town, the bounded demon corpse can be target by skills (in special

Find Item...)

weegee wrote: 13 hours ago

folks, just came back from a long hiatus, playing a warlock at the moment, anyone enlightening me what's this shenanigan?

#1 I truly doubt this exploit as it was really had much impact. Still need a full game of 8 players, and 7 Warlocks to be joining and existing over and over.

8 players could also just join a TZ game and probably just clear the area and the result would be the same in my opinion.

#2 Truly honestly did this impact anyone? Some players I do not even know exist are in a game I do not know exists doing something just has no impact on the rest of us playing in our own games. If one felt this was a bad and wrong exploitation, simply just do not do it. All that is left.

People screaming on Blizzards forum like this is the end of the world, the game is destroyed. Simply not, few players took advantage of something devs were too shortsighted or this shows lack of testing. The ladder itself is no longer new, people are getting bored so they do stupid things and most likely this was discovered by some players just bored.

sbn wrote: 11 hours ago

#1 I truly doubt this exploit as it was really had much impact. Still need a full game of 8 players, and 7 Warlocks to be joining and existing over and over.

8 players could also just join a TZ game and probably just clear the area and the result would be the same in my opinion.

#2 Truly honestly did this impact anyone? Some players I do not even know exist are in a game I do not know exists doing something just has no impact on the rest of us playing in our own games. If one felt this was a bad and wrong exploitation, simply just do not do it. All that is left.

People screaming on Blizzards forum like this is the end of the world, the game is destroyed. Simply not, few players took advantage of something devs were too shortsighted or this shows lack of testing. The ladder itself is no longer new, people are getting bored so they do stupid things and most likely this was discovered by some players just bored.

This actually depends on how you play game.
Some people like to feel Wealth by comparison, that will impact those value orient play.
These player usually think like, I get super good roll of

Crown of Ages, it is 10

Jah. Or I loot super good small charm, 3/20/20 , it 'was' 150

Jah, now it is only 40

Jah. Or people who used to have too many

Jah, they need space by switch it to 5/20, it was 30

Jah, now it is only 15-18

Jah.
Those thing hurt people's feeling. These bug only affect rotw player , old world economic still similar to thing we used to think and only have minor impact. That makes old LoD runes is not equal to new world runes, it is like ladder and non ladder , same rune have different value.
This issue create too many uniques, most not so good roll is 0 value now.

They was need several hours to clean up garbage.

Before this bug is fix, some people set up a machine, one hook, one do rejoin/move to port / quit repeat script while they were away. Every 30 min or so , there will be massive of trash there can't display. [I dont think this is fun , even if everyone make it valid, make things pointless, I think original bug finder also thinks value is not good so make it public known, too many things, small charm created]

I was think bilizzard might recycle those, turns out no. That make things interesting, several set or more worth item create by this way, kill 80% of existing item value. Meaning if you go to trade market, things will be like Chaos, anyway, it is only non ladder, you still can play next ladder game. It will be fair in next ladder.

--it was act like this-
one warlock use shade, create a3 tz, go capture shaman. prepare bar.
open room, bar join, port to a4 , quit. bar hook.
This create 2 elite tz corpse every 10 second.

You get job garbage filter, it was several week before it public known.

I dont like rotw because I feel it is buggy, things like this. But yet, warlock still fun, if you play to reach mid-high lv and quit, it is still very worth play.

sbn wrote: 11 hours ago

8 players could also just join a TZ game and probably just clear the area and the result would be the same in my opinion.

You think that normal farming is as fast as 7 Warlocks leaving and re-entering the game every 10 or so seconds and always leaving behind 2 corpses of a unique monster? That's 14 high-quality corpses in like 10 seconds. You must have some really fast 8 men parties.

In reality It was only 1 body per

Bind Demon (for what I understand )

In practice was the normal

Bind Demon body, that wasn't targetable, and one extra body, that was targetable.

As an enemy,

Fetish Shaman spawn a

Fetish when it dies (in the lore, it is one

Fetish in the shouders of another, when you kill it 1st time, you kill the "up

Fetish", then have to deal if the "down

Fetish" )

The "spawn a

Fetish when it dies" is what caused the bug, the game spawed and then instantly killed a real

Fetish....

mikelessar wrote: 1 hour ago

...leaving behind 2 corpses of a unique monsters...

mikelessar wrote: 1 hour ago

sbn wrote: 11 hours ago

8 players could also just join a TZ game and probably just clear the area and the result would be the same in my opinion.

You think that normal farming is as fast as 7 Warlocks leaving and re-entering the game every 10 or so seconds and always leaving behind 2 corpses of a unique monster? That's 14 high-quality corpses in like 10 seconds. You must have some really fast 8 men parties.

yeah at first I thought p8 travcal would yield the similar result if a group keeps at it, upon give it a second thought, no, nothing really beats this exploit even though those bound monsters ain't always TZ guaranteed and you still need to travel a bit to get them, funky bug but I'm glad it's now patched up to a already very broken economy.

fredkid wrote: 1 hour ago

In reality It was only 1 body per

Bind Demon (for what I understand )

In practice was the normal

Bind Demon body, that wasn't targetable, and one extra body, that was targetable.

As an enemy,

Fetish Shaman spawn a

Fetish when it dies (in the lore, it is one

Fetish in the shouders of another, when you kill it 1st time, you kill the "up

Fetish", then have to deal if the "down

Fetish" )

The "spawn a

Fetish when it dies" is what caused the bug, the game spawed and then instantly killed a real

Fetish....

mikelessar wrote: 1 hour ago

...leaving behind 2 corpses of a unique monsters...

ok , lets make calculation more accuracy. I was just do it casually.
The

Key point of this bug is to make people able to farm it offline and only pick up things they think valuable. (small charm, grand charm)
It will allow people watch tv and pc very easy auto script farm d2, unlike complex boting.

warlock x 1 , powerful pc, effective do rejoin every 10 second.
30 minutes, 150 corpse, with some delay and miss in it.
bar, scan Ground every 10 minutes, only pick small charms, grand charms, runes higher than

Ist. and some special unique worth

Jah.

it will create 5-8 (small charm+grand charms) per hour. 7 - 15 runes, most likely, you will fill up your storage/warehouse every time you wake up...
no wonder you can see people use those hard to loot thing to buy up your stuff, kind of printing money. It is not bad thing, you can easily get those hard loot item really cheap.