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This is not a class I am familiar with (excepting my time in World Of Warcraft long ago). I had started to build a Hammerdin, because several guides rated is as tremendously powerful. But I soon realized that you just kept casting Blessed Hammer spells at an adversary and thats simply boring. I'm fine using auras to benefit damage, but want the actual weapon I hold in my hand to do damage when I whack things with it. Is there a powerful paladin build suitable for heavy Hell level use, farming etc, that utilizes both physically induced damage via my weapon, and auras/spells etc. to combine for major damage?
One person in a Baal run suggested a Dragondin with Zeal, but again, I don't know Paladins and could really use real life advice from those of you who have high level Pallys and real life experience with them. Thanks for any help in steering me in the right direction when I respec fairly soon.
One person in a Baal run suggested a Dragondin with Zeal, but again, I don't know Paladins and could really use real life advice from those of you who have high level Pallys and real life experience with them. Thanks for any help in steering me in the right direction when I respec fairly soon.
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This is not a class I am familiar with (excepting my time in World Of Warcraft long ago). I had started to build a Hammerdin, because several guides rated is as tremendously powerful. But I soon realized that you just kept casting Blessed Hammer spells at an adversary and thats simply boring. I'm fine using auras to benefit damage, but want the actual weapon I hold in my hand to do damage when I whack things with it. Is there a powerful paladin build suitable for heavy Hell level use, farming etc, that utilizes both physically induced damage via my weapon, and auras/spells etc. to combine for major damage?
One person in a Baal run suggested a Dragondin with Zeal, but again, I don't know Paladins and could really use real life advice from those of you who have high level Pallys and real life experience with them. Thanks for any help in steering me in the right direction when I respec fairly soon.
One person in a Baal run suggested a Dragondin with Zeal, but again, I don't know Paladins and could really use real life advice from those of you who have high level Pallys and real life experience with them. Thanks for any help in steering me in the right direction when I respec fairly soon.
https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/fist-of-th ... ns-paladin
https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/dream-paladin
https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/zeal-paladin
These are 3 alternatives if you don't like hammerdin
I personally like the Dream Paladin build
Makes use of dmg with an aura Holy Shock & Zeal with your weapon
https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/dream-paladin
https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/zeal-paladin
These are 3 alternatives if you don't like hammerdin
I personally like the Dream Paladin build
Makes use of dmg with an aura Holy Shock & Zeal with your weapon
Physical damage plus damaging aura: Dream Paladin ( Holy Shock) or Dragon Paladin ( Holy Fire) combined with Zeal.Slapshot wrote: 21 hours agoIs there a powerful paladin build suitable for heavy Hell level use, farming etc, that utilizes both physically induced damage via my weapon, and auras/spells etc. to combine for major damage?
the Dream and Dragon paladins are VERY expensive.
i would save ur pennies and eventually make or buy a Grief in a Phase Blade.
in the mean time buy The Redeemer, i use that on my hammer paladin. good melee weapon but also has +2 skills for added hammer damage. u only need around 5 or so points in Zeal to max out at 5 hits. u might get that from +skill items.
i would save ur pennies and eventually make or buy a Grief in a Phase Blade.
in the mean time buy The Redeemer, i use that on my hammer paladin. good melee weapon but also has +2 skills for added hammer damage. u only need around 5 or so points in Zeal to max out at 5 hits. u might get that from +skill items.
The Dragon Paladin that is referred to is this onemikelessar wrote: 21 hours agoPhysical damage plus damaging aura: Dream Paladin ( Holy Shock) or Dragon Paladin ( Holy Fire) combined with Zeal.
https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/holy-fire-paladin
He does not want to play hammers, neither does he want to play pure melee or pure spell caster. He wants a mix of direct hit damage and spell damage. He has clearly said that.TimeSlayer wrote: 20 hours agothe Dream and Dragon paladins are VERY expensive.
i would save ur pennies and eventually make or buy a Grief in a Phase Blade.
in the mean time buy The Redeemer, i use that on my hammer paladin. good melee weapon but also has +2 skills for added hammer damage. u only need around 5 or so points in Zeal to max out at 5 hits. u might get that from +skill items.
That only leaves Dream and Dragon. Yes, they are expensive but maybe OP has the budget for it.
OP
Thanks to everyone for your thoughts on this. I greatly appreciate it. The Dream Paladin certainly looks interesting, and I think I could afford it. My only concern is that neither the Dream Paladin or the Dragon Paladin are even listed in recommended top endgame builds from Maxroll and Icy Veins?
https://maxroll.gg/d4/tierlists/paladin ... -tier-list
https://www.icy-veins.com/d4/paladin/builds/
https://maxroll.gg/d4/tierlists/paladin ... -tier-list
https://www.icy-veins.com/d4/paladin/builds/
ur looking at diablo 4 not 2.Slapshot wrote: 15 hours agoThanks to everyone for your thoughts on this. I greatly appreciate it. The Dream Paladin certainly looks interesting, and I think I could afford it. My only concern is that neither the Dream Paladin or the Dragon Paladin are even listed in recommended top endgame builds from Maxroll and Icy Veins?
https://maxroll.gg/d4/tierlists/paladin ... -tier-list
https://www.icy-veins.com/d4/paladin/builds/
do u have multiple Jah? it takes 3 to really shine.
https://maxroll.gg/d2/tierlists/overall-tier-list
For what its worth I also started out as hammerdi nbecause of the guides saying its S tier but did not really like the playstyle.
Ended up going Dream and quite liked it and the ability to swap some gear and Smite ubers to Death. It is quite high investment but it works really well.
I am now on a Frozen Orb sorc back to my origins from 23 years ago when I played as a teen.
Considering making my Pally a full Smite build just for ubers / dclones now.
But overall based on what you have said I recommend Dream Pally for sure.
Ended up going Dream and quite liked it and the ability to swap some gear and Smite ubers to Death. It is quite high investment but it works really well.
I am now on a Frozen Orb sorc back to my origins from 23 years ago when I played as a teen.
Considering making my Pally a full Smite build just for ubers / dclones now.
But overall based on what you have said I recommend Dream Pally for sure.
It looks like you want to build mix solution.
In overall performance, it max skill point use.
Remember to run maxroll to find out best damage solution for mix build.
Like , pure physical , it need exceed 14200 damage. Mix solution may need go down 1 damage layer, maybe 10000-12000 and make use of light damage. I don't know the exact setup , charms , points in str, you need to use maxroll to run your exact scenario and use token to optimize it.
In overall performance, it max skill point use.
Remember to run maxroll to find out best damage solution for mix build.
Like , pure physical , it need exceed 14200 damage. Mix solution may need go down 1 damage layer, maybe 10000-12000 and make use of light damage. I don't know the exact setup , charms , points in str, you need to use maxroll to run your exact scenario and use token to optimize it.
Please be aware, all my trade is in non ladder d2r. Not warlock.
In 1p,
sometimes increase max/min damage, +1 skill, + ED will not change your performance.
In my case, physical paladin, 13000 damage. Increase ED or min-max damage , or use new physical jewel. -phy resistance. will not change performance.
It will act like you not have that. similar to ias breakpoint story.
Of course, it will work if you play 2p 3p or more.
sometimes increase max/min damage, +1 skill, + ED will not change your performance.
In my case, physical paladin, 13000 damage. Increase ED or min-max damage , or use new physical jewel. -phy resistance. will not change performance.
It will act like you not have that. similar to ias breakpoint story.
Of course, it will work if you play 2p 3p or more.
Please be aware, all my trade is in non ladder d2r. Not warlock.
OP
Vortex Shield and Bone Helm are my go to s. Shield doesn't matter as much because you'll have Holy Shield active.
I have a hammerdin, a smiter, a tesladin/Dream and a fohdin all maxed with BiS gear.
My favourite to simply mess around and rush is probably tesladin, unless there are more than 3 players as it really drops off.
Hammerdin is king all around for general clearing. Great with P8 cows etc.
Fohdin is stronger for targeted farming. CS/AS/ Key Farming/Boss Clears are all way better. Also clears faster than Hammerdin.
Smiter is nice for boss killing. Also Ancients and obviously Ubers.
I have a hammerdin, a smiter, a tesladin/Dream and a fohdin all maxed with BiS gear.
My favourite to simply mess around and rush is probably tesladin, unless there are more than 3 players as it really drops off.
Hammerdin is king all around for general clearing. Great with P8 cows etc.
Fohdin is stronger for targeted farming. CS/AS/ Key Farming/Boss Clears are all way better. Also clears faster than Hammerdin.
Smiter is nice for boss killing. Also Ancients and obviously Ubers.
I would not recommend those guides. Especially the Dream Pala Guide has some debatable equipment choices and overall recommendations.TheSoulReaver wrote: 21 hours agohttps://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/fist-of-th ... ns-paladin
https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/dream-paladin
https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/zeal-paladin
These are 3 alternatives if you don't like hammerdin
I personally like the Dream Paladin build
Makes use of dmg with an aura Holy Shock & Zeal with your weapon
Down at the bottom of those guides there are alternatives to every gear pieceMarlex wrote: 3 hours agoI would not recommend those guides. Especially the Dream Pala Guide has some debatable equipment choices and overall recommendations.TheSoulReaver wrote: 21 hours agohttps://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/fist-of-th ... ns-paladin
https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/dream-paladin
https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/zeal-paladin
These are 3 alternatives if you don't like hammerdin
I personally like the Dream Paladin build
Makes use of dmg with an aura Holy Shock & Zeal with your weapon
At the top is the most expensive & BiS
OP
Thanks for the recommendations for Vortex Shield and Bone Helm, both look good, but I'll need a shield and Helm that has three sockets (or at least something Larzuk can make into three sockets) for two Dream runewords. Was wondering what to use for that purpose.Morgormir wrote: 6 hours agoVortex Shield and Bone Helm are my go to s. Shield doesn't matter as much because you'll have Holy Shield active.
I have a hammerdin, a smiter, a tesladin/Dream and a fohdin all maxed with BiS gear.
My favourite to simply mess around and rush is probably tesladin, unless there are more than 3 players as it really drops off.
Hammerdin is king all around for general clearing. Great with P8 cows etc.
Fohdin is stronger for targeted farming. CS/AS/ Key Farming/Boss Clears are all way better. Also clears faster than Hammerdin.
Smiter is nice for boss killing. Also Ancients and obviously Ubers.
Larzuk tends to make shields into 4 socketsSlapshot wrote: 1 hour agoThanks for the recommendations for Vortex Shield and Bone Helm, both look good, but I'll need a shield and Helm that has three sockets (or at least something Larzuk can make into three sockets) for two Dream runewords. Was wondering what to use for that purpose.Morgormir wrote: 6 hours agoVortex Shield and Bone Helm are my go to s. Shield doesn't matter as much because you'll have Holy Shield active.
I have a hammerdin, a smiter, a tesladin/Dream and a fohdin all maxed with BiS gear.
My favourite to simply mess around and rush is probably tesladin, unless there are more than 3 players as it really drops off.
Hammerdin is king all around for general clearing. Great with P8 cows etc.
Fohdin is stronger for targeted farming. CS/AS/ Key Farming/Boss Clears are all way better. Also clears faster than Hammerdin.
Smiter is nice for boss killing. Also Ancients and obviously Ubers.
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