For the 1 Perfect Gems thing... One of my favorite deal was when I offered 10GC's (all from lvl92+ Terror zones) for 10 Perfect Gems, just to free up some space in the stash. That was the fastest deal of mine with 6hours. Everyone was happy and with the gems I rerolled a necro summon skill gc for the first try
Now I just look for more Perfect Gems to reroll GC's from lvl94+ TZ's...
Sometimes it is better to accept a 1 Perfect Gems offer, than keeping the trash item in your inventory
Anyway, I will put some IK crusher to the market for this price as well...
I don't have RotW expansion yet.
When I look for rune, you can offer Perfect Gems as well.
I live in Europe/Budapest timezone.
It has always been like this, but this season It's a bit more prominent because of the many new and returning players that just really don't know the up-to-date prices or Confuse non-ladder with ladder pricing.
What i'm more salty about are the bulk-sellers who dump their unique portfolio and refresh it every six hours without answering to reasonable offers because they are hoping for a sucker.
I also agree that we need to provide guidance to the new folks surging into the D2R community because of ROW. There have been a couple of trades involving pgems where they threw in a handful of pammies and I gave them a heads up that typically those are valued higher than normal gems.
I always try to put an asking price or a BIN, but sometimes I will write "make an offer" or "lf offers" for some reasons:
A. It is an item that I will just accept pretty much any offer for
B. I am not sure what to value it at, even after doing my research (I always do my research)
C. I want people to bid on it (this is a normal thing for a bidding/trading site)
I'm sure there are people who do, but most of us aren't trying to screw over new players or anyone. At the end of the day it's just fun to trade and help people get stuff they need. Sometimes people will be more inclined to ask for an item if they can name their own price rather than locking it to a specific rune or something.
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I used to do that but noticed that sometimes you sell yourself short. So I just put what I want in my signature with instructions after all its an auction site for all items in the game even cheap ones.
My favorite is when you put in an offer, let's just say 5 Jah. And the seller comes back with "I was looking to get 10 Jah". Well why didn't you start off with that? Were you hoping someone didn't do their research and offer you 15 Jah?
When a seller writes "lf offers" I immediately assume 1 of 2 things if its not a super rare item:
1) Lazy and didn't want to research fair prices
2) Hoping someone offers more than fair value to take advantage
I almost never waste my time on trades with only "lf offers". Most of the time the sellers get annoyed with my offers. Its like going to a grocery store and instead of seeing prices tags on the items everything says "make offer". Ok, how about 5 bucks for my whole shopping cart? If everything says "make offer" its a garage sale and you're getting low-balled. Don't get mad or insulted when you get low-balled. In my opinion its the sellers responsibility to research their item's value. Don't crowd-source offers to determine value. If you genuinely don't know what your item is worth, then ask before posting it.
I 100% agree with this. When i was playing online and doing trades here i never traded with a "lf runes" or "make offer" for normal shit. whenever i listed i always looked at comparable listings and price history and i never had trade issues lol.
I also agree that we need to provide guidance to the new folks surging into the D2R community because of ROW. There have been a couple of trades involving pgems where they threw in a handful of pammies and I gave them a heads up that typically those are valued higher than normal gems.
How are they valued this season tho? I feel by the lack of sorceresses, pame are significantly less valuable this season. I barely see pame move for Ist.
On Traderie I allways hide all Items marked with "Make an Offer", I 100% agree with this topic.
Before I offer an item I allways do some research and compare prices, it really doesn't take that long to come up with a reasonable price tag.
"LF Offers" should be exclusivly reserved for absolutely 1 in a million items, like perfect Runewords in a perfect base, the new uber ancients jewels or the renewed sunder charms and some (almost) perfectly rolled WL torches, because no one really knows what the fair market price might be at the current state.
Also some rare items like Amazon or Assasin gloves for example, or magic PvP items like Claws and crafted gloves/amulets could be marked with "LF Offers" or "Make an Offer", because comparing prices can be really tough in this category.
For everything else a price tag would make trading so much more accessable and easier to handle.
LF Offers" should be exclusivly reserved for absolutely 1 in a million items, like perfect Runewords in a perfect base, the new uber ancients jewels or the renewed sunder charms and some (almost) perfectly rolled WL torches, because no one really knows what the fair market price might be at the current state.
I disagree on this
There are plenty of rare items /magical utems and even perf rolled rws etc that can be put as lf offers.
For ei: rare helms of all varieties, rare jewels, rare offhands, rare weapons, all serve diff purposes and diff demands etc do probably deserve ‘lf offers’, definitely not 1 in a million:)
As long as the seller is reasonable when putting the “lf offers” and know when to put a bin or reserve after xx days on the market, it should be ok.
There isnt a right or wrong method of buying and selling
Also i wouldnt use traderie as a ref, that site. , aside from traffic, its prices are everywhere , mostly beyond overpriced to ridiculous asking price, sometimes u do find some ppl selling at reasonable prices for certain items.
I also agree that we need to provide guidance to the new folks surging into the D2R community because of ROW. There have been a couple of trades involving pgems where they threw in a handful of pammies and I gave them a heads up that typically those are valued higher than normal gems.
How are they valued this season tho? I feel by the lack of sorceresses, pame are significantly less valuable this season. I barely see pame move for Ist.
Agree that it has slowed down, but on NL I have been able to move them at the 8/Ist rate.
Price discovery can be super complicated. I'm having serious issues valuing some of my items on ladder currently due to a weak dataset. My strategy is to always price to sell (but often take slightly under in order to close the transaction quickly).
LF Offers" should be exclusivly reserved for absolutely 1 in a million items, like perfect Runewords in a perfect base, the new uber ancients jewels or the renewed sunder charms and some (almost) perfectly rolled WL torches, because no one really knows what the fair market price might be at the current state.
There are plenty of rare items /magical utems and even perf rolled rws etc that can be put as lf offers.
I explicitly excluded rare items, magic items like PvP Items and Runewords, If you re-read my post.
Also some rare items like Amazon or Assasin gloves for example, or magic PvP items like Claws and crafted gloves/amulets could be marked with "LF Offers" or "Make an Offer", because comparing prices can be really tough in this category.
Keep in mind giving and item value also takes time and can be very time consuming.
Many people don't even brother to thank for the time you took to dig/search.
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