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I've been seeing in-game requests for 20+
Jah
for a warlock torch - I get that they are new and crazy popular but yikes! Is that about right? common? or maybe just a few people not knowing the actual value?
The only thing I have that might possibly come close to that is a 15%/40% jewel that I've been saving for a rainy day, I guess.

Is a 15%/40% jewel a fair trade for a bad/mid Warlock Torch?

Thanks much in advance for any help/guidance!
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I've been seeing in-game requests for 20+
Jah
for a warlock torch - I get that they are new and crazy popular but yikes! Is that about right? common? or maybe just a few people not knowing the actual value?
The only thing I have that might possibly come close to that is a 15%/40% jewel that I've been saving for a rainy day, I guess.

Is a 15%/40% jewel a fair trade for a bad/mid Warlock Torch?

Thanks much in advance for any help/guidance!
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You are probably talking about softcore non-ladder. Well, there is a very demand and low supply, especially for well-rolled Lock torches and (tens of) thousands of Jahs that have been gathered in the last 5 years are rotting in stashes. These prices are pure unrestricted capitalism.

When the season ends, lots of Lock torches will flood on the market and prices will go down. One more year and Lock torches will be priced like Pally or Sorc torches.

And yes, a 15-40 is very fair for a mid Lock torch. But if you wait a little longer, your 15-40 will buy you a great Lock torch.
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Schnorki 4633Moderator

RotW PC
SC NL? Definitely not.

A bad to mid WL torch started out somewhere around 10-20
Jah
. They've dropped since then and I regularly see them offered under 10 now. Though I'm not actively paying attention anymore. WL torches are no harder to get than any other torch after all, they merely had an initial instant mass-demand with 0 starting supply, resulting in an obvious overpricing that has come down since and will continue to come down as folks all get theirs.

For a top-end torch, yes, you still pay out the nose. But low to mid is definitely nowhere near a 15/40 anymore which is what? 20-40
Jah
with the right buyer? Not even close.
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fredkid 2000

RotW Warlock Americas PC
I also think the price is a bit inflated...

Man... I remember before the expansion, bad to mid rolled torches were sold for a pack of
Perfect Gems
and even sometimes donated...
And now ... a bad rolled Warlock
Hellfire Torch
is many
Jah
...

As @mikelessar said..
pure unrestricted capitalism.
😛

I never played latter... Are the prices for "regular classes torches" that high at the beginning of the ladder?
(it is the parallel I can think of...🤔🤔)

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion (RotW only)
----
Equivalence for trades:
Ist
= 1 =
Token of Absolution
= 20
Perfect Gems

Pul
=0.25 |
Um
=0.5|
Mal
=0.75
Gul
=1.5|
Vex
=2 |
Ohm
=3 |
Lo
=4 |
Sur
=5
Ber
=9 |
Jah
=12 |
Cham
=9 |
Zod
= 12
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leox 341

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
for mid roll wl torch, it is around 10
Jah
.
And pricing is drop very quick due to the
Key
price is down quicker than torch.

As for today, it is very easy to get several
Jah
gain by purchase keys and create wl torch. I guess in next month , the wl 15 15 may drop below 4
Jah
.

20 20 , I think it is still valuable, 20
Jah
is actually very cheap. few weeks ago, it is not lower than 60
Jah
.

Please be aware, all my trade is in non ladder d2r. Not warlock.
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Sold a 19/19 wlock torch for 45
Jah
and a couple of
Zod
was the first one i found.

Found another 13/13 later on and kept it, posted it anyways and got 30
Jah
for it.

Now i'm just waiting for the crash.

ALWAYS open to other offers if you feel I’m asking for too much or if you do not have exactly what I am looking for.


GMT +02:00
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fredkid 2000

RotW Warlock Americas PC
[off topic]

A little out of date....
I hadn't played for 4-5 months, I'm back now with the new expansion....

But I think Token is actually a little more valuable then
Ist
these days...🤔🤔
Steve-O wrote: 2 hours ago
"Equivalence for trades:
Ist
= 1 =
Token of Absolution
= 20
Perfect Gems

Pul
=0.25 |
Um
=0.5|
Mal
=0.75
Gul
=1.5|
Vex
=2 |
Ohm
=3 |
Lo
=4 |
Sur
=5
Ber
=9 |
Jah
=12 |
Cham
=9 |
Zod
= 12"

Is this currently about right these days? If so, tokens way more valuable than i thought!

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion (RotW only)
----
Equivalence for trades:
Ist
= 1 =
Token of Absolution
= 20
Perfect Gems

Pul
=0.25 |
Um
=0.5|
Mal
=0.75
Gul
=1.5|
Vex
=2 |
Ohm
=3 |
Lo
=4 |
Sur
=5
Ber
=9 |
Jah
=12 |
Cham
=9 |
Zod
= 12
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User avatar

leox 341

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
Steve-O wrote: 2 hours ago
"Equivalence for trades:
Ist
= 1 =
Token of Absolution
= 20
Perfect Gems

Pul
=0.25 |
Um
=0.5|
Mal
=0.75
Gul
=1.5|
Vex
=2 |
Ohm
=3 |
Lo
=4 |
Sur
=5
Ber
=9 |
Jah
=12 |
Cham
=9 |
Zod
= 12"

Is this currently about right these days? If so, tokens way more valuable than i thought!
You need to revise
Jah
Ber
table, there is 1-3 floating point around there.

Ist
Mal
Lem
also need to revise, those things is still in early spike mode, it might take several month to back normal status. (in your Memory, the
Ist
stuff value drop every day but still way higher than your Memory)

Please be aware, all my trade is in non ladder d2r. Not warlock.
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User avatar

leox 341

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
Ziggy87 wrote: 2 hours ago
Sold a 19/19 wlock torch for 45
Jah
and a couple of
Zod
was the first one i found.

Found another 13/13 later on and kept it, posted it anyways and got 30
Jah
for it.

Now i'm just waiting for the crash.
19/19 can be that price in early days and maybe even still today. 45
Jah
+

as for mid 13/13...no, it is low value now, at least not 30 and will be under 10.

Please be aware, all my trade is in non ladder d2r. Not warlock.
7
User avatar

leox 341

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
fredkid wrote: 2 hours ago
[off topic]

A little out of date....
I hadn't played for 4-5 months, I'm back now with the new expansion....

But I think Token is actually a little more valuable then
Ist
these days...🤔🤔
Steve-O wrote: 2 hours ago
"Equivalence for trades:
Ist
= 1 =
Token of Absolution
= 20
Perfect Gems

Pul
=0.25 |
Um
=0.5|
Mal
=0.75
Gul
=1.5|
Vex
=2 |
Ohm
=3 |
Lo
=4 |
Sur
=5
Ber
=9 |
Jah
=12 |
Cham
=9 |
Zod
= 12"

Is this currently about right these days? If so, tokens way more valuable than i thought!
As for token, because of production
Baal
is catching up...and
Ist
spike in value.

I see this table is correct. 1 = 1 or very tiny win in token?

Please be aware, all my trade is in non ladder d2r. Not warlock.
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You can get a low-end torch now for 6-8
Jah
non ladder. Just find 6-8 sets of 3x3 keys, sell them for 1
Jah
each, and you have a torch. Same process as if you did the Ubers yourself to find your own torch. Of course, there is profit to doing the Ubers yourself, but then you take on risk. maybe you find a Warlock torch after 2-3 tries, or maybe it takes you 25.

Life is short. Sell the 15-40 jewel, and get yourself a torch. Current going rate is about 10
Jah
for a 15/40. Or find some keys and trade to get yourself a torch.
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Mid torch is about 10-14
Jah
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Schnorki wrote: 2 hours ago


For a top-end torch, yes, you still pay out the nose. But low to mid is definitely nowhere near a 15/40 anymore which is what? 20-40
Jah
with the right buyer? Not even close.
@varangium is right. They are actually more like 10-15
Jah
(non-ladder RotW Traderie recent sales)
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User avatar

Schnorki 4633Moderator

RotW PC
mikelessar wrote: 2 hours ago
Schnorki wrote: 2 hours ago


For a top-end torch, yes, you still pay out the nose. But low to mid is definitely nowhere near a 15/40 anymore which is what? 20-40
Jah
with the right buyer? Not even close.
@varangium is right. They are actually more like 10-15
Jah
(non-ladder RotW Traderie recent sales)
Wouldn't know about traderie. Only prices I see is here and in-game.
But even if the jewels dropped that much, the original proposition of 20+
Jah
for a low to mid WL torch is still a rip-off.
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There has been severe price deflation on high end items like a 15/40 that are non warlock related. And of course insane prices/inflation on warlock items. Over the long term, that probably reverses, but right now everyone wants to have fun playing the Warlock, plus it is the most OP class.

Diablo economy is fascinating :)
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User avatar

leox 341

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
Recent trade,
top tier
19+ 19+ is trade between 30-200
Jah


mid tier combine 30+ 10
Jah
-30
Jah
.
anything combine lower than 30 is consider as low roll, it is pricing between
Vex
-7
Jah

or 7-10 for not too bad one.

Please be aware, all my trade is in non ladder d2r. Not warlock.
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leox wrote: 2 hours ago
Ziggy87 wrote: 2 hours ago
Sold a 19/19 wlock torch for 45
Jah
and a couple of
Zod
was the first one i found.

Found another 13/13 later on and kept it, posted it anyways and got 30
Jah
for it.

Now i'm just waiting for the crash.
19/19 can be that price in early days and maybe even still today. 45
Jah
+

as for mid 13/13...no, it is low value now, at least not 30 and will be under 10.
I don't think either of them are worth that much but that's what i got for them.

ALWAYS open to other offers if you feel I’m asking for too much or if you do not have exactly what I am looking for.


GMT +02:00
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User avatar

leox 341

Resurrected Paladin Asia PC
Ziggy87 wrote: 1 hour ago
leox wrote: 2 hours ago
Ziggy87 wrote: 2 hours ago
Sold a 19/19 wlock torch for 45
Jah
and a couple of
Zod
was the first one i found.

Found another 13/13 later on and kept it, posted it anyways and got 30
Jah
for it.

Now i'm just waiting for the crash.
19/19 can be that price in early days and maybe even still today. 45
Jah
+

as for mid 13/13...no, it is low value now, at least not 30 and will be under 10.
I don't think either of them are worth that much but that's what i got for them.
if you get 13/13 in day 1, yes , it is worth that much and price is reasonable. 30
Jah
.

But as for today, if you get lucky and buyer rush to buy, 7 -9
Jah

on the other side, if you rush to sell, it is 2-4
Jah
.

Please be aware, all my trade is in non ladder d2r. Not warlock.
7
User avatar

fredkid 2000

RotW Warlock Americas PC
1
Vex
?!?! I want 🤗
leox wrote: 1 hour ago
...
anything combine lower than 30 is consider as low roll, it is pricing between
Vex
-7
Jah

...

Time Zone: GMT-3
Non-Ladder | Softcore | Expansion (RotW only)
----
Equivalence for trades:
Ist
= 1 =
Token of Absolution
= 20
Perfect Gems

Pul
=0.25 |
Um
=0.5|
Mal
=0.75
Gul
=1.5|
Vex
=2 |
Ohm
=3 |
Lo
=4 |
Sur
=5
Ber
=9 |
Jah
=12 |
Cham
=9 |
Zod
= 12
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