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Warlock Skills on non-daggers

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I found a rare

Claymore, can’t remember which base, while running normal difficulty that has +1 Eldritch skills.
I knew that daggers got the warlock specific + skills but was unaware of other weapon types.
I haven’t found any swords with + warlock skills since.
I was wondering if it is common, obviously its possible, but I really like the sword and don’t want to go back to daggers.

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MisfitMarsMan `2`

2 months ago (pre-Resurrected)

I found a rare

Great Sword or a

ShadowHeart `5944`Moderator

2 months ago (pre-Resurrected)

That's cause your sword had a prefix which grants a bonus to an entire Skill Tree (Eldritch), vs staffmods (+ to invididual skills) on daggers. I.e. it was a magic sword with a prefix. A magic

Dagger could have had that too, but any base/magic/rare

Dagger can have + to individual warlock skills, even base daggers.

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ShadowHeart `5944`Moderator

2 months ago (pre-Resurrected)

To quote Trang Oul from another thread:

Trang Oul wrote: 2 months ago
If I interpret data files correctly:

suffixes:

of
Miasma Bolt (charges) - polearms, daggers, voodoo heads; swords

of Lethargy (charges) - polearms, daggers, voodoo heads; rings, circlets

of Rancor (charges) - polearms, daggers, voodoo heads; shields (only non-class or grimoires, excluding auric shields?)

of
Apocalypse (charges) - staves, daggers, voodoo heads; gloves

prefixes:

Chaotic/Erratic/Torrid (+ 1/2/3 to Chaos) - daggers (also throwing knives), grimoires, amulets, circlets; +3 only on magic items

Sullied/Tainted/Forbidden (+ 1/2/3 to Eldritch) - daggers (excluding throwing knives), grimoires, amulets, circlets, swords; +3 only on magic items

Fiendish/Dreadful/Malevolent (+1/2/3 to Demon) - daggers (also throwing knives), grimoires, amulets, circlets; +3 only on magic items

Chaotic/Sullied/Fiendish (+1 to Chaos/Eldritch/Demon) - grand charms (read: skillers)

Devil's/Arch-Devil's (+1/2 to Warlock Skills) - amulets, circlets; daggers, grimoires; +2 only on magic items

So your swords were "Sullied/

Tainted/Forbidden ...", which grants +1/2/3 to Eldritch skills. It can appear on swords (as well as circlets, daggers, grimoires, and amulets).

MisfitMarsMan `2`

2 months ago (pre-Resurrected)

I just got home. Here is the sword. I put an

Ort and a +5% ed jewel in it.

It doesn’t have those prefixes

ShadowHeart `5944`Moderator

2 months ago (pre-Resurrected)

Yeah, it has the new "Sullied" prefix, which grants +1 to Eldritch Skills (whole skill tree). A bonus to a whole skill tree is something that magic & rare items have always been able to roll, there's just some new prefixes/suffixes in the game now -
like,
- magic & rare amulets have always been able to have +X to any skill tree,
- magic & rare circlets have always been able to have +X to any skill tree,
- magic & rare weapons have always been able to have +X to Barbarian Combat Skills,
- magic & rare maces have always been able to roll +X to Paladin Combat Skills,
- magic & rare gloves have always been able to roll +X to Martial Arts and to all Amazon skill trees,
etc.

They chose to allow +X to Eldritch Skills (whole skill tree) on magic & rare swords (and daggers), but only daggers can have +X to individual skills. When an item has +X to individual skills, it's called an "automod", cause it exists on the base item, it's not granted by a prefix or suffix, even a white/grey item can have automods. What's new in Reign of the Warlock is that daggers can now have Warlock skills automods (even a white

Dagger can have +skills). But you'll never see a white sword with +X to Eldritch skills cause that's only possible via the "Sullied" prefix, which can only appear on magic & rare items.

A magic item (blue) can have 1 prefix and 1 suffix. It's named exactly by the prefix & suffix - like, "Sullied Great Sword of Maiming", it has the "Sullied" prefix and "of Maiming" suffix, as example. Rare items (yellow) can have up to 3 prefixes and 3 suffixes, but the name is completely random, the name has nothing to do with which prefixes and suffixes are rolled, it's just a random name consisting of two words.

nihilninja `77`

2 months ago (pre-Resurrected)

thats how you get this. lol

MisfitMarsMan `2`

2 months ago (pre-Resurrected)

Thanks for the detailed explanation. It was just chance that I found the sword. I have moved on to a polearm now but the information you provided is very much appreciated.
That is thanks to both users that replied.

Trang Oul `1166`

2 months ago (pre-Resurrected)

ShadowHeart wrote: 2 months ago
When an item has +X to individual skills, it's called an "automod", cause it exists on the base item, it's not granted by a prefix or suffix, even a white/grey item can have automods. What's new in Reign of the Warlock is that daggers can now have Warlock skills automods (even a white
Dagger can have +skills).

Small nitpick: +1/2/3 to 1-3 individual class skill is a staffmod (usually), which is defined on the item type (itemtypes.txt). An automod is similar, but defined in automagic.txt.
The difference is not purely technical. Some items have both staffmods and automods, and it wouldn't be possible to roll both, both were automods. For example, orbs can roll +1-3 Sorceress skills staffmods and +Life/Mana automod (in this case, Life or Mana - because both are automods in the same group), voodoo heads +1-3 Necro and poison damage, and grimoires have +1-3 Warlock and fire/magic damage.