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Just out of curiosity, would you mind tell us your gear set up? To reach 105 FCR and 86 FHR at same time I mean.
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To reach 105 FCR you have 2 options - either 10 FCR on the amulet or on a ring - besides the "standard" equipment - Viper, Magefist, Griffon, Arachnid
To reach 86 FHR breakpoint (not using Sandstorm Trek) - you need 6 x GC FHR + 10 FHR on Boots + 1 x SC with 5 FHR getting a total of 87
Just out of curiosity, would you mind tell us your gear set up? To reach 105 FCR and 86 FHR at same time I mean.
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To reach 105 FCR you have 2 options - either 10 FCR on the amulet or on a ring - besides the "standard" equipment - Viper, Magefist, Griffon, Arachnid
To reach 86 FHR breakpoint (not using Sandstorm Trek) - you need 6 x GC FHR + 10 FHR on Boots + 1 x SC with 5 FHR getting a total of 87
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It's not bad if you're used to playing on console, especially if you've done lots of other gaming on the switch. I grew up playing Playstation and Xbox and I played lots of Super Smash and other games on Switch here. Since last season I've only been playing HC.d2jsp wrote: 21 hours agoOf course, it all depends on your playing style. I see you're using a Nintendo Switch. For me, playing in console mode is terrible, especially on hardcore mode. Even when playing on Steam Deck, I connect an portable monitor, keyboard, and mouse.BigD wrote: 21 hours agoSorc with self wield Infinity is more of a glass cannon vs HoTo+Spirit with Infinity wielding merc, my experience anyways. And youre gonna lose alot of FCR & res vs HoTo+Spirit too. Might be fun and obliterate mobs quicker though, especially lightning immunes.
For lightning sorc on HC I prefer Crescent Moon (for the -enemy light res) + Stormshield and Infinity wielding merc, but that's just me. Feels less squishy.
NovaES is an aggressive build, everything depends on your reaction and skill, correct positioning of the mouse cursor etc
You can sort of control how far you Teleport using the analog stick. It's not as precise as a mouse cursor obvs but you get the hang of it.
In some ways console sort of lends itself to faster paced gaming, which is preferable for some builds.
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I don't see how FHR helps outside of knockbacking mobs since you take 95% of the dmg to your mana, therefore you dont get FHRed until you mana dries. Chaos is not a threat at all (not even in p8. with 3K+ mana you can handle even infector just fine) WSK is a diff story. Souls needs attention, but I belive it is still the case for your build.retepnap wrote: 19 hours agoI am a bit unsure if we have the same baseline, so I would like to put some more context into this:
1. P8 is the only "true" baseline - if you play P1 most of the time - then I dont really see the relevance in gear "debate" at all
2. DPS and thus clear speed is the "ultimate" goal here - combined with never dying and your merc never dying
3. There are only a few monsters / groups that can kill you - I hope we can agree on that - all of those requires FHR in most cases to effectively survive
4. Solo clearing Chaos and WSK in p8 games - since they hold the only monsters / groups that imo pose the biggest (and any?) threat to the Nova build
5. Why are some of you "debating" playstyle? Telestomping combined with clear speed does not really give you any other way of style?
6. If your merc helps you with killing boss'es then I assume you are playing P1 games and that your DPS is way too low
7. Having higher def is ofcourse helpful - but claiming that the FHR from Sandstorm Trek is enough makes no sense (keep in mind that the context is the above mentioned situations) 20 FHR gives you 11 frames - 86 FHR gives you 7 frames - thats the difference of dying easily or not at all
8. Life does not help you against blood mana - I know this migth end up in semantics but holding back attack is what ultimately "saves" you?
9. Asking why I have cold res just tells me that .... ughMy cold res mainly comes from +ALL RES gear - thats not the same as me pursuing it or even needing it?
10. My gear is flexible - I usually play with 59 fire res / 46 cold res / 75 light res / 55 poison res - but I can instantly change that to 59 FR / 24 CR / 75 LR / 75 PR
11. Mana, FHR, resistances, defence
11a The priority is not up for debate unless you play somewhere else than where it matters
11b First priority is Mana (the initial pool but definately also the regen) - Second is FHR (again, unless you play where it doesnt matter ofc) - Third is Poison resist and Lightning resist - the first because its annoying, not because you risk dying (with the exception of dolls, but thats a matter of skills imo) - Fourth is life and the remaining resists
12. Now, tell me in which situations you or your merc dies in the game (if you are not playing P8 games, then never mind)
And to those of you who still insists that Sandstorm Trek is BiS and that 20 FHR is "enough" - how about we test it?
I challenge you to do 50 games each of clearing Chaos and wsk solo in P8 games - I will bring the stopwatch and coffins for you![]()
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I don't see how FHR helps outside of knockbacking mobs since you take 95% of the dmg to your mana, therefore you dont get FHRed until you mana dries. Chaos is not a threat at all (not even in p8. with 3K+ mana you can handle even infector just fine) WSK is a diff story. Souls needs attention, but I belive it is still the case for your build.
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You are wrong about every assumption you have made so far.
Ofcourse you can get Stun locked before your mana pool runs dry - thats the game mechanic 1/12th threshold.
Ask Lord De Seis how many Nova sorc he has put into a coffin - he doesnt even have to spawn with might or fanatism aura - pure unluck will get you into the coffin very fast (assuming you ignore the importance of FHR).
Lets do the math?
Lets start with a Nova sorc that has 800 life and 3000 mana (NOTE that in the case / situation of stunlock - it doesnt matter if you have 3k or 6k mana pool! - assuming you have the Cap of 95% on your ES ofcourse)
With 20 FHR you will only reach the 11 framerate breakpoint - equivalent of 0.44 seconds.
7 framerates is 0.28 seconds - just for comparison
The _standard_ attack rate/cycle of most monsters is around 10 frames.
The threshold for putting you into a stunlock with 800 life is 67 damage to your lifepool !
Blood Lords and Death Knights can easily roll higher than the needed threshold.
Elite packs with might, fanatism or extra strong can exceed the threshold with 300 - 400 % and they wont ask your permission
To put that into perspective, if you have 11 framerates "to escape / attack" with and a pack of 3 monsters is hitting you (exceeding the amount of damage threshold ofcourse), just slightly out of sync - you will be put into a stunlock aka nodding your head 100% of the times.
We could continue this, but a pack of 5 souls ... well, I bet you already know what happens with 11 framerate getaway
So, I can mathematically prove that you dont play at the same level as the 86 FHR Nova sorc does (without dying every now and then).
While you are playing russian roulette with your 11 framerate Nova sorc - I have already cleared the screen or teleported to safety.
Let me see your Nova builds in d2planner - i dare you
I don't see how FHR helps outside of knockbacking mobs since you take 95% of the dmg to your mana, therefore you dont get FHRed until you mana dries. Chaos is not a threat at all (not even in p8. with 3K+ mana you can handle even infector just fine) WSK is a diff story. Souls needs attention, but I belive it is still the case for your build.
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You are wrong about every assumption you have made so far.
Ofcourse you can get Stun locked before your mana pool runs dry - thats the game mechanic 1/12th threshold.
Ask Lord De Seis how many Nova sorc he has put into a coffin - he doesnt even have to spawn with might or fanatism aura - pure unluck will get you into the coffin very fast (assuming you ignore the importance of FHR).
Lets do the math?
Lets start with a Nova sorc that has 800 life and 3000 mana (NOTE that in the case / situation of stunlock - it doesnt matter if you have 3k or 6k mana pool! - assuming you have the Cap of 95% on your ES ofcourse)
With 20 FHR you will only reach the 11 framerate breakpoint - equivalent of 0.44 seconds.
7 framerates is 0.28 seconds - just for comparison
The _standard_ attack rate/cycle of most monsters is around 10 frames.
The threshold for putting you into a stunlock with 800 life is 67 damage to your lifepool !
Blood Lords and Death Knights can easily roll higher than the needed threshold.
Elite packs with might, fanatism or extra strong can exceed the threshold with 300 - 400 % and they wont ask your permission
To put that into perspective, if you have 11 framerates "to escape / attack" with and a pack of 3 monsters is hitting you (exceeding the amount of damage threshold ofcourse), just slightly out of sync - you will be put into a stunlock aka nodding your head 100% of the times.
We could continue this, but a pack of 5 souls ... well, I bet you already know what happens with 11 framerate getaway
So, I can mathematically prove that you dont play at the same level as the 86 FHR Nova sorc does (without dying every now and then).
While you are playing russian roulette with your 11 framerate Nova sorc - I have already cleared the screen or teleported to safety.
Let me see your Nova builds in d2planner - i dare you
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I use almost the exact same build (merc too), with same sockets and same upp'd items. Only real difference is I use a 2/10 Caster Amulet.d2jsp wrote: 21 hours agohttps://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/ae2910oe
My build that survives on TZ96-8ppl. He's not afraid of the dolls, and his Cyclone Armor from Infinity will allow him to survive the fight against the souls.
Note the swap, I don't use Call To Arms, instead I carry Memory with Chilling Armor and extra ES. I play with two windows and my GF/Mfinder gives me all the warcries.
I do use different charms.
Super fun build. I have no issues with p8 runs either.
I agree with you. In my opinion FHR on a, ES sorc just isn't needed. Are there monsters that can Stun you regardless? Yes, blood lords for example. However, play intelligently around these auto-stunning monsters. Don't Leroy Jenkins yourself blindly. The amount of monsters where 5% of their attack (since 95% is absorbed with ES through a properly built sorc) can get through you Energy Shield AND take out 1/12th of your life in a single attack, is so small its not worth the extra cost and effort to hit 86FHR in my opinion.uuee wrote: 11 hours agoI don't see how FHR helps outside of knockbacking mobs since you take 95% of the dmg to your mana, therefore you dont get FHRed until you mana dries. Chaos is not a threat at all (not even in p8. with 3K+ mana you can handle even infector just fine) WSK is a diff story. Souls needs attention, but I belive it is still the case for your build.
Personally I build my characters to handle 95% of the game with as much damage and speed as possible. For the remaining 5% of the game I just play intelligently. Never had any issues - sorc never dies.
But that's the great thing about this game. Its about each individual's play style and what is fun for them.
There will always be people who try to tell you your build is wrong if yours doesn't match their build. Do what you build fits your style and preferences. That's why I use Fortitude on my merc. I do a lot of Key and essence farming with my sorc, meaning I kill a lot of bosses. I enjoy the extra damage fort gives my merc. Its worth the 16 Prayer aura he has instead of 18 from Coh. This set up fits my style. Could I have extra protected if he used Coh? Sure but its not worth the trade off in damage my merc does to bosses.
There will always be people who changes the narrative when things dont align with their perspective. The common sign is that they often contradict themself when presented with something they dont immediately understand.
They are also extremely stubborn or maybe something else
There will always be people that claims certain gear is BiS - even though they are not. And when presented with a better solution ... well ... sigh
We dont play at the same level - if that triggers someone so much that they have to change the narrative and thus the baseline of which they claimed to have the high Ground on in the first place - then fine with me - I can only advice players to the best of my knowledge and provide context beyond "subjective" oppinions based on ...
My build has 75 poison res _without_ Sandstorm Trek. It has 75 light res. It has 86 FHR.
Regardless of whether anyone "feels" like they need that or not - in regards to their playstyle, that is a better build?!
The fact that anyone would even try to defend that ... kinda proofs my initial point of views?
These people simply refuse to acknowledge any "evidence" - they talk themself out of it - typically changing the scenario.
My build doesnt care about how "intelligent" (all of a sudden?) that anyone plays - it will still be much better in _their_ hands - the pure stats is proof ?!
How would anyone ever argue, that having less resistance, less FHR is better? Sigh ?!
Cherry picking "situations" that fits someones build is not the same as comparing it based on facts.
They are also extremely stubborn or maybe something else
There will always be people that claims certain gear is BiS - even though they are not. And when presented with a better solution ... well ... sigh
We dont play at the same level - if that triggers someone so much that they have to change the narrative and thus the baseline of which they claimed to have the high Ground on in the first place - then fine with me - I can only advice players to the best of my knowledge and provide context beyond "subjective" oppinions based on ...
My build has 75 poison res _without_ Sandstorm Trek. It has 75 light res. It has 86 FHR.
Regardless of whether anyone "feels" like they need that or not - in regards to their playstyle, that is a better build?!
The fact that anyone would even try to defend that ... kinda proofs my initial point of views?
These people simply refuse to acknowledge any "evidence" - they talk themself out of it - typically changing the scenario.
My build doesnt care about how "intelligent" (all of a sudden?) that anyone plays - it will still be much better in _their_ hands - the pure stats is proof ?!
How would anyone ever argue, that having less resistance, less FHR is better? Sigh ?!
Cherry picking "situations" that fits someones build is not the same as comparing it based on facts.
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Might be because I play 1P with my Nova ES sorc but I never got Stun locked from 1/8 life pool. Stun from vipers etc. is a thing though.retepnap wrote: 2 hours agoThere will always be people who changes the narrative when things dont align with their perspective. The common sign is that they often contradict themself when presented with something they dont immediately understand.
They are also extremely stubborn or maybe something else
There will always be people that claims certain gear is BiS - even though they are not. And when presented with a better solution ... well ... sigh
We dont play at the same level - if that triggers someone so much that they have to change the narrative and thus the baseline of which they claimed to have the high Ground on in the first place - then fine with me - I can only advice players to the best of my knowledge and provide context beyond "subjective" oppinions based on ...
My build has 75 poison res _without_ Sandstorm Trek. It has 75 light res. It has 86 FHR.
Regardless of whether anyone "feels" like they need that or not - in regards to their playstyle, that is a better build?!
The fact that anyone would even try to defend that ... kinda proofs my initial point of views?
These people simply refuse to acknowledge any "evidence" - they talk themself out of it - typically changing the scenario.
My build doesnt care about how "intelligent" (all of a sudden?) that anyone plays - it will still be much better in _their_ hands - the pure stats is proof ?!
How would anyone ever argue, that having less resistance, less FHR is better? Sigh ?!
Cherry picking "situations" that fits someones build is not the same as comparing it based on facts.
I'm surprised that you use 6GCs + 1 SC to hit the 86 BP. Wouldn't additional life be more valuable? Or getting it from items? For instance, why no Sandstorm Trek if you value fhr so much?
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