recently , there is some problem in pgm trade

scam model, be careful
there is some player use pgm trade model to get runes and pgm.

The usually case of trade is ,
you drop runes,
he drop pgms.

I face one player(k1312//Playa#1996), he continue to trade pgm for my runes , at first 10 trade , it is work ok, in the end he ask me to trade higher rune in exchange of same worth pgms. When I drop it, he took runes and run away.

Lucky thing for me is I only trade pgm with small runes. (

Ohm)

Here is my problem, he try to get resource by use this model, in case of you drop rune, he will take it run away.
The other case if you drop pgms , he will get pgms and run.

That will makes pgm purchase model troublesome. Use trade window is very hard .

I see some lost

Jah in this model.

Jah pgm is nightmare trade. of course, people will read review in

Jah pgm trade.

Always use trade screen, always collect collateral on big trades, better to be inconvenienced than screwed. Honestly the "this" for 300+ pgems thing is ridiculous in general, trade market is horribly inflated, albeit this is coming from a player who doesn't play every waking moment, or farm one thing ad infinitum

well... I guess eventually I will face this.
I buy too many

Perfect Amethyst , pgms , p sk in short time.(20+ trade )
I cant read review every trade.

In the end, I see him use

Attract lower than market to make it work.

I was thinking it is so cheap and small, I just want get in drop and get in 30 second trade.


inflation wont be problem , because ladder is about down, it will drop a lot of tokens , pgms , pas and need for more runes

leox wrote: 5 days ago

well... I guess eventually I will face this.
I buy too many

Perfect Amethyst , pgms , p sk in short time.(20+ trade )
I cant read review every trade.

In the end, I see him use

Attract lower than market to make it work.

I was thinking it is so cheap and small, I just want get in drop and get in 30 second trade.


inflation wont be problem , because ladder is about down, it will drop a lot of tokens , pgms , pas and need for more runes

I don't get it , why using trade window in pgm mode is troublesome? Thought that trade windows secure interest of both sides.

xylucas wrote: 5 days ago

leox wrote: 5 days ago

well... I guess eventually I will face this.
I buy too many

Perfect Amethyst , pgms , p sk in short time.(20+ trade )
I cant read review every trade.

In the end, I see him use

Attract lower than market to make it work.

I was thinking it is so cheap and small, I just want get in drop and get in 30 second trade.


inflation wont be problem , because ladder is about down, it will drop a lot of tokens , pgms , pas and need for more runes

I don't get it , why using trade window in pgm mode is troublesome? Thought that trade windows secure interest of both sides.

I agree with your think . but think about some cases,

Jah 200+ pgm trade.
Or my case, get pgm and exchange them into pa or perfect skulls. every pgm need trade 2 times. (or in this case,

Ohm 80-120 pgm)

pgm trade window is trouble for people move pgm, not people paying runes.

it is small thing but this behavior really annoying. makes every trade need to read review , slow down trade speed....
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And also another thing comes into my mind, he is use steal gems to sell to others. That will create a possibility of White gloves problem even if trade is success. Make some behavior looks like wash money. Even this is just digital not real money.

Did this happen through a trade via this website?

no , it is not. here is very safe, people are more reliable.

But the problem is still there, that you have to rely on good people to have good trade.

I am just thinking if there is any way to make trade smooth especially if you do lots of trade, eventually you will meet problem , the difference is that on good site, you are likely meet problem in 200 trade. in not so reliable site, you might see it in 100 trade to have 1 problem.(that is my case, around 100 to see one like this, I usually trade carefully)


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beside, due to lots of trade, I see some victim that fall into the trap I mention previously , the

Jah trap . That I read someone's profile says they fall into some

Jah/

Ist looks very cheap exchange rate that they wants you drop first.

anyway it is small incidence.

xylucas wrote: 5 days ago

leox wrote: 5 days ago

well... I guess eventually I will face this.
I buy too many

Perfect Amethyst , pgms , p sk in short time.(20+ trade )
I cant read review every trade.

In the end, I see him use

Attract lower than market to make it work.

I was thinking it is so cheap and small, I just want get in drop and get in 30 second trade.


inflation wont be problem , because ladder is about down, it will drop a lot of tokens , pgms , pas and need for more runes

I don't get it , why using trade window in pgm mode is troublesome? Thought that trade windows secure interest of both sides.

I think he meant that it's mega annoyance and a time waste of click-and-drop every single pgem for bigger trades which it really is. You can't ctrl+click or anything to fill the trade screen, you need to manually do it every time for every singular item (or in this case gem).

leox wrote: 5 days ago

scam model, be careful
there is some player use pgm trade model to get runes and pgm.

The usually case of trade is ,
you drop runes,
he drop pgms.

I face one player(k1312//Playa#1996), he continue to trade pgm for my runes , at first 10 trade , it is work ok, in the end he ask me to trade higher rune in exchange of same worth pgms. When I drop it, he took runes and run away.

Lucky thing for me is I only trade pgm with small runes. (

Ohm)

Here is my problem, he try to get resource by use this model, in case of you drop rune, he will take it run away.
The other case if you drop pgms , he will get pgms and run.

That will makes pgm purchase model troublesome. Use trade window is very hard .

I see some lost

Jah in this model.

Jah pgm is nightmare trade. of course, people will read review in

Jah pgm trade.

this same guy scammed me 100

Ral

leox wrote: 5 days ago

scam model, be careful
there is some player use pgm trade model to get runes and pgm.

The usually case of trade is ,
you drop runes,
he drop pgms.

I face one player(k1312//Playa#1996), he continue to trade pgm for my runes , at first 10 trade , it is work ok, in the end he ask me to trade higher rune in exchange of same worth pgms. When I drop it, he took runes and run away.

Lucky thing for me is I only trade pgm with small runes. (

Ohm)

Here is my problem, he try to get resource by use this model, in case of you drop rune, he will take it run away.
The other case if you drop pgms , he will get pgms and run.

That will makes pgm purchase model troublesome. Use trade window is very hard .

I see some lost

Jah in this model.

Jah pgm is nightmare trade. of course, people will read review in

Jah pgm trade.

how about you use the trading window instead of dropping shit lol.

MintBlancmanche wrote: 4 hours ago

leox wrote: 5 days ago

scam model, be careful
there is some player use pgm trade model to get runes and pgm.

The usually case of trade is ,
you drop runes,
he drop pgms.

I face one player(k1312//Playa#1996), he continue to trade pgm for my runes , at first 10 trade , it is work ok, in the end he ask me to trade higher rune in exchange of same worth pgms. When I drop it, he took runes and run away.

Lucky thing for me is I only trade pgm with small runes. (

Ohm)

Here is my problem, he try to get resource by use this model, in case of you drop rune, he will take it run away.
The other case if you drop pgms , he will get pgms and run.

That will makes pgm purchase model troublesome. Use trade window is very hard .

I see some lost

Jah in this model.

Jah pgm is nightmare trade. of course, people will read review in

Jah pgm trade.

how about you use the trading window instead of dropping shit lol.

sure, I will surely use trade window more.
the people who move 300-500 thing wont happy about it but I think you are right on most of it.


this is pgm case, I was carefully trade with him at beginning but after like 20 trade....
I usually limit trade to several

Ist value per trade, that he get opportunity get max of it.


read review is very important, even if that trade goes well, that will still cause problem. He is selling scam thing to others unknown. even if unknown protect himself in the end, still raise problem.

I guess I've been lucky with large item drops vs single rune pick ups. Usually I'll start dropping then wait until item drops, pick up when trade item is secured and finish the pay load. But again, I've been lucky vs some people I've talked with.

there's always a guy making the "

Jah for

Ist" "

Lo for

Ral" etc, seems like a scam to me, never bothered to enter the game and ask what's up lol.

the only times I drop stuff is when I'm gifting annhilus or some other crap.

DwPvsZtO wrote: 2 hours ago

I guess I've been lucky with large item drops vs single rune pick ups. Usually I'll start dropping then wait until item drops, pick up when trade item is secured and finish the pay load. But again, I've been lucky vs some people I've talked with.

yes, normally it is okay, people here are more reliable. I am not saying we shouldnt use trade window for pgm things.

Just read review before we go.

That guy , he is delicates to scam, so the problem can happen in either way. If you try to sell your small stuff and drop first. That guy will just pick up and go away without paying. (The

Ral tragedy)

My case is my bad , I think he already do so many success trade and thinks his ask should be ok. And drop rune first expect he drop. then he run away.