20 Jah for this ring? WTF

vued wrote: 1 day ago

TheDoo wrote: 1 day ago

What is the 4th one? What is even the 3rd one? AR is useless for Javazon since you are extremely rarely killing stuff with the direct impact from the singular physical jav.

Lightning Fury bolts are always hit thing same as any other "spell" (same goes for

Charged Strike -- you don't need to actually hit for the bolts to be released => more of that on this post forums/lightning-strike-and-charged-str ... 72147.html). Javazons prefer all res and dual leech over singular ones in both cases (3/3 is better than 0/6) and +mana is not at all needed since you have access to CtA (+you just need leech). High Lr and FCR are still preferable yes but everything else is meh. If there was 37-38 Life instead of Mana (in case of

Blood Ring ~55 Life) it would've been close to gg. On the other hand, I always preferred something like 1 MOK which is, in most cases, waaay better than any low mLeech roll for Javazon grind just because of the pure OP kill speed (imho). But then again, I don't hardcore grind. MOK is more reliable in my opinion tho since you can't leech from some sources and MOK always activates.

A GG/Uber ring (even tho it's not perfect) would be something like: 25 25 Fr & Lr + min. 8 all res + dual leech (for example 6/5 is good enough) + FCR + min. 15 str/dex!

Java needs AR because you only leech from physical attacks. No physical hit => no leech.

Java needs LR the most, so 30LR >11@ in most cases.

There are other good sources for life leech for a Java but mana can basically only come from 2nd ring (gloves being the other source and they only provide 3).

In PvP you need mana since you can't leech, but in this case the combo of mana+mana leech does not make sense.

Java needs AR because you only leech from physical attacks. No physical hit => no leech.

mhlg wrote: 1 day ago

vued wrote: 1 day ago

TheDoo wrote: 1 day ago

What is the 4th one? What is even the 3rd one? AR is useless for Javazon since you are extremely rarely killing stuff with the direct impact from the singular physical jav.

Lightning Fury bolts are always hit thing same as any other "spell" (same goes for

Charged Strike -- you don't need to actually hit for the bolts to be released => more of that on this post forums/lightning-strike-and-charged-str ... 72147.html). Javazons prefer all res and dual leech over singular ones in both cases (3/3 is better than 0/6) and +mana is not at all needed since you have access to CtA (+you just need leech). High Lr and FCR are still preferable yes but everything else is meh. If there was 37-38 Life instead of Mana (in case of

Blood Ring ~55 Life) it would've been close to gg. On the other hand, I always preferred something like 1 MOK which is, in most cases, waaay better than any low mLeech roll for Javazon grind just because of the pure OP kill speed (imho). But then again, I don't hardcore grind. MOK is more reliable in my opinion tho since you can't leech from some sources and MOK always activates.

A GG/Uber ring (even tho it's not perfect) would be something like: 25 25 Fr & Lr + min. 8 all res + dual leech (for example 6/5 is good enough) + FCR + min. 15 str/dex!

Java needs AR because you only leech from physical attacks. No physical hit => no leech.

Java needs LR the most, so 30LR >11@ in most cases.

There are other good sources for life leech for a Java but mana can basically only come from 2nd ring (gloves being the other source and they only provide 3).

In PvP you need mana since you can't leech, but in this case the combo of mana+mana leech does not make sense.

Java needs AR because you only leech from physical attacks. No physical hit => no leech.

Attack rating isn't all that important for a

Lightning Fury javazon, you'll get enough AR with the dex points used to wear gear, and a

Raven Frost will give you twice the AR the ring gives. Go look at your stats with your skills loaded and it won't even show your attack rating or chance to hit, but if you go to defense it will show chance to block. The real benefit of AR on a Javazon is chance to block and that also depends on your gear. Before I would pay even a single

Jah for the ring I would instead use that

Jah to roll a Phoenix Shield which will take care of both mana and life.

vued wrote: 12 hours ago

mhlg wrote: 1 day ago

vued wrote: 1 day ago

Java needs AR because you only leech from physical attacks. No physical hit => no leech.

Java needs LR the most, so 30LR >11@ in most cases.

There are other good sources for life leech for a Java but mana can basically only come from 2nd ring (gloves being the other source and they only provide 3).

In PvP you need mana since you can't leech, but in this case the combo of mana+mana leech does not make sense.

Java needs AR because you only leech from physical attacks. No physical hit => no leech.

Attack rating isn't all that important for a

Lightning Fury javazon, you'll get enough AR with the dex points used to wear gear, and a

Raven Frost will give you twice the AR the ring gives. Go look at your stats with your skills loaded and it won't even show your attack rating or chance to hit, but if you go to defense it will show chance to block. The real benefit of AR on a Javazon is chance to block and that also depends on your gear. Before I would pay even a single

Jah for the ring I would instead use that

Jah to roll a Phoenix Shield which will take care of both mana and life.

Can anyone confirm or refute the claim that AR effects CtB?
All calculators I know of only use char lvl, dex, and CtB from items so to my understanding AR does not effect CtB.

vued wrote: 12 hours ago

mhlg wrote: 1 day ago

vued wrote: 1 day ago

Java needs AR because you only leech from physical attacks. No physical hit => no leech.

Java needs LR the most, so 30LR >11@ in most cases.

There are other good sources for life leech for a Java but mana can basically only come from 2nd ring (gloves being the other source and they only provide 3).

In PvP you need mana since you can't leech, but in this case the combo of mana+mana leech does not make sense.

Java needs AR because you only leech from physical attacks. No physical hit => no leech.

Attack rating isn't all that important for a

Lightning Fury javazon, you'll get enough AR with the dex points used to wear gear, and a

Raven Frost will give you twice the AR the ring gives. Go look at your stats with your skills loaded and it won't even show your attack rating or chance to hit, but if you go to defense it will show chance to block. The real benefit of AR on a Javazon is chance to block and that also depends on your gear. Before I would pay even a single

Jah for the ring I would instead use that

Jah to roll a Phoenix Shield which will take care of both mana and life.

Can anyone confirm or refute the claim that AR effects CtB?
All calculators I know of only use char lvl, dex, and CtB from items so to my understanding AR does not effect CtB.

mhlg wrote: 1 day ago

Attack rating isn't all that important for a

Lightning Fury javazon, you'll get enough AR with the dex points used to wear gear, and a

Raven Frost will give you twice the AR the ring gives. Go look at your stats with your skills loaded and it won't even show your attack rating or chance to hit, but if you go to defense it will show chance to block. The real benefit of AR on a Javazon are the dexterity points used that increase chance to block and that also depends on your gear. Before I would pay even a single

Jah for the ring I would instead use that

Jah to roll a Phoenix Shield which will take care of both mana and life. Edited