Trapsin - Cannot be frozen

Hi everyone,

I recently started a Infinity self-wield Trapsin and realized that, despite trying to be on range as much as possible, I frequently get frozen (in particular when teleporting into or near monster groups).

Unlike for casters whose casting rate is unaffected by getting frozen, the trap-laying speed is significantly reduced as well as my capacity to run away from incoming monsters.

I am curious whether or not you are using a source of CBF on your trapsins and which item it is.

I currently tend to socket a

Cham into my Griffons but replacing a SoJ with Ravenfrost and socketing a facet into Griffons would probably yield more damage.

In theory I could also replace

Arachnid Mesh with TragOuls

Belt but I need the 20 fcr for

Teleport breakpoints.

Thank you in advance

Are you running BoS or

Fade?

Is difficult to Hit the break points. I am always missing about 5% to hit max frames.
I put the

Cham inside Griffins anyways. Because without Griffin and FCR Ring I would miss BP per 5%-10%. The damage is also higher due to faster cast DPS.

I even was going to get x3 Ring+Amu with Half Freeze duration because of the Dilemma with Breakpoints and Cannot be Frozen.

I go without on my Bladesin, even though

Blade Sentinel does refer back to attack speed. Can't speak for more conventional traps, it's been many years since I played the build.

Eldryndor wrote: 1 month ago

Unlike for casters whose casting rate is unaffected by getting frozen, the trap-laying speed is significantly reduced as well as my capacity to run away from incoming monsters.

I am curious whether or not you are using a source of CBF on your trapsins and which item it is.

I currently tend to socket a

Cham into my Griffons but replacing a SoJ with Ravenfrost and socketing a facet into Griffons would probably yield more damage.

In theory I could also replace

Arachnid Mesh with TragOuls

Belt but I need the 20 fcr for

Teleport breakpoints.

Definitly use a source of cbf, the slow is just too annoying. But i think sacrificing the +1 skill from soj is better than sacrificing -5/5 on griffons, damagewise. The mana isn't needed that much imo. But this may be subject of mathematical discussions.

Concerning

Belt slot you may also consider

Death's Guard and

Death's Hand. May sound silly, but +30% Ias, CBF and +15 allres including a huge drop in Psn effectivenes (even more when paired with Merc's Cure!) is serious stuff.

if u r not wedded to Enigma, i used Hustle armor,

Shadow Master, and the merc Insight + Cure +

Prayer

Blubbalutsch wrote: 1 month ago

Concerning

Belt slot you may also consider

Death's Guard and

Death's Hand. May sound silly, but +30% Ias, CBF and +15 allres including a huge drop in Psn effectivenes (even more when paired with Merc's Cure!) is serious stuff.

Even less silly sounding now that you can upgrade these (all set items) to elite bases. Negating the defense loss from wearing normal base items.

Thanks everyone for your opinions.

I think for now I will run the variant Facet in Griffons and

Raven as a ring.

That also gives me flexibility to switch on/out SoJ and

Raven depending on area.

uuee wrote: 1 month ago

Are you running BoS or

Fade?

I asked, because if you run

Fade, you might want an IAS jewel in your griffon's (35 ias with a

Brandistock results in a 10 frame trap laying animation).

uuee wrote: 1 month ago

uuee wrote: 1 month ago

Are you running BoS or

Fade?

I asked, because if you run

Fade, you might want an IAS jewel in your griffon's (35 ias with a

Brandistock results in a 10 frame trap laying animation).

Ah, sorry did forget to reply to that.
I ran

Fade in the beginning because my resistances are super low.
But that did feel super slow and clunky. Therefore, I switched to BoS.

Do you maybe have a link to a good Ias Calc that can also handle two-handed weapons?
I found one, but it also accepts

Claws as weapons.

I just edited the next passage in my last post but shifted it here for better visibility:

Since I play with Self-wield Infinity

Brandistock my Trap-laying speed per se is rather slow.
Hence, I play with BoS. Since I also lack a Shield my Resistances are super low and therefore I try to keep quite a distance to pretty much every monsters.

I realize, that monsters are often out of range of my

Conviction aura.
Therefore I consider switching my setup to

Crescent Moon + Spirit and to switch my Merc Weapon from Insight to Infinity.

What are your thoughts / preferences regarding this?

Eldryndor wrote: 1 month ago

uuee wrote: 1 month ago

uuee wrote: 1 month ago

Are you running BoS or

Fade?

I asked, because if you run

Fade, you might want an IAS jewel in your griffon's (35 ias with a

Brandistock results in a 10 frame trap laying animation).

Ah, sorry did forget to reply to that.
I ran

Fade in the beginning because my resistances are super low.
But that did feel super slow and clunky. Therefore, I switched to BoS.

Do you maybe have a link to a good Ias Calc that can also handle two-handed weapons?
I found one, but it also accepts

Claws as weapons.

I just edited the next passage in my last post but shifted it here for better visibility:

Since I play with Self-wield Infinity

Brandistock my Trap-laying speed per se is rather slow.
Hence, I play with BoS. Since I also lack a Shield my Resistances are super low and therefore I try to keep quite a distance to pretty much every monsters.

I realize, that monsters are often out of range of my

Conviction aura.
Therefore I consider switching my setup to

Crescent Moon + Spirit and to switch my Merc Weapon from Insight to Infinity.

What are your thoughts / preferences regarding this?

d2io just added an attack speed calculator attackspeed.php?char=Assassin&data=1-0- ... -0-0-0-0-0

With BOS you can still reach decent resistances with self wield Infinity (except lightning when using

Crack of the Heavens).

Griffins socketed with rare jewel (+15 IAS / 15 All Resistances). Ravenfrost and SOJ.

Mara's Kaleidoscope,

Arachnid Mesh

Belt and

Trang-Oul's Claws. Magic

Boots with some resistances to plug any shortage or

Aldur's Advance. Also small charms with resistance of choice. 65 FCR breakpoint for

Teleport and easily possible to reach max trap laying speed.

Somewhere along the line sacrifices are made, just depends on what. In this case you don't meet the 102 FCR breakpoint but have more flexibility in terms of mercenary setup. I use Insight, Cure and

Prayer (same as

Nova).

Holy Freeze is another option if you would like a more chill experience.

BIS

Claws are ridiculously rare and expensive, probably not worth even going there unless this is your be all and end all character.

M1ck wrote: 1 month ago

Griffins socketed with rare jewel (+15 IAS / 15 All Resistances). Ravenfrost and SOJ.

Mara's Kaleidoscope,

Arachnid Mesh

Belt and

Trang-Oul's Claws.

IAS is not needed in the

Helm with BoS (lvl7 BoS with

Brandistock already gives max trap laying speed)

uuee wrote: 1 month ago

M1ck wrote: 1 month ago

Griffins socketed with rare jewel (+15 IAS / 15 All Resistances). Ravenfrost and SOJ.

Mara's Kaleidoscope,

Arachnid Mesh

Belt and

Trang-Oul's Claws.

IAS is not needed in the

Helm with BoS (lvl7 BoS with

Brandistock already gives max trap laying speed)

Even easier then.

Eldryndor wrote: 1 month ago

Do you maybe have a link to a good Ias Calc that can also handle two-handed weapons?

There is one right here on this site - attackspeed.php

It is a fork of Warren's IAS calculator (https://warren1001.github.io/IAS_Calculator/) which has been the most accurate IAS calculator since D2R patch 2.6 at least.

I use

Raven Frost but my Trapsin is also a WW sin with Chaos claw (+ full Nat set), definitely fun

Still believe that adding AR + dex + mana in additionto CBF makes it really nice if you want to actually do something while the traps do most of the work.

I’ve been using Trang’s

Belt for CBF, and it’s not ideal, but it works. Losing the FCR is annoying, but I’ve adjusted my playstyle to compensate. If you’re not super attached to the

Arachnid Mesh, it’s worth a try. Otherwise, Ravenfrost is the way to go.

I've never gone trapsin so have no input on gear there but I will say that thawing potions are often overlooked. If you aren't maxing out your potion usage you can easily devote a slot to them. It's crazy the sort of gear compromises that some people will make just to get cannot be frozen on characters that aren't potion-chuggers.

(They don't work vs.

Holy Freeze but then again neither does "cannot be frozen".)

I don't even carry a tomb of town portal or tomb of identification. I have one

Belt column for full rejuvi, 1 for tp scrolls, and 2 for id scrolls. If you think I'm going to waste a column on thawing options, then HA! I'd rather put a

Cham in my

Helm or put on a ravenfrost. Or if a caster then idgaf about being frozen.

I have to say, never have I managed to get myself frozen with my trapsin.
Either im doing something very right or I just go for "cannot be frozen" (ring for example) into something.

P.S
Ive never had the Infinity. Ever, and I play characters which would need it..