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I'm trying to decide on what armor I should work towards for my zealot, currently running a Treachery. He's got his Grief and Exile already. I'm leaning towards a Fortitude, but I really like the QoL from an Enigma. I know that Chains of Honor is often recommended for doing ubers, which I plan to use him for as well. Does anyone have a definitive answer as to which armor I should choose and why?
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I'm trying to decide on what armor I should work towards for my zealot, currently running a Treachery. He's got his Grief and Exile already. I'm leaning towards a Fortitude, but I really like the QoL from an Enigma. I know that Chains of Honor is often recommended for doing ubers, which I plan to use him for as well. Does anyone have a definitive answer as to which armor I should choose and why?
Answeredby fredkid • 5 months ago•Go to post
With Phase Blade you probably don't need the Treachery IAS...
So the choice is normally Enigma for mobility or Fortitude for extra damage and defense (thanks to Chilling Armor trigger)
And against Ubers you can pre-buff Fade with Treachery instead of using Chains of Honor.
So the choice is normally Enigma for mobility or Fortitude for extra damage and defense (thanks to Chilling Armor trigger)
And against Ubers you can pre-buff Fade with Treachery instead of using Chains of Honor.
Offers of perfect amethysts, Hel runes, tokens, and keys are also welcome.
With Phase Blade you probably don't need the Treachery IAS...
So the choice is normally Enigma for mobility or Fortitude for extra damage and defense (thanks to Chilling Armor trigger)
And against Ubers you can pre-buff Fade with Treachery instead of using Chains of Honor.
This post was marked as the best answer.So the choice is normally Enigma for mobility or Fortitude for extra damage and defense (thanks to Chilling Armor trigger)
And against Ubers you can pre-buff Fade with Treachery instead of using Chains of Honor.
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No, there is no clear-cut answer. My preference, the build guides, and content creators I follow all favor Enigma. For mobility is one reason, but I think the main reason is for controlling your merc
Decrepify from reaper's toll on your merc can be kind of inconsistent unless you are teleporting him directly into groups of monsters. And might + Decrepify from your merc almost doubles your overall DPS on an endgame zealot build, so effective control of your merc is critical to get the most damage out of your build. Together with mobility, Enigma just gives me the best clear speed
But it looks like you might be making an all-in-one build, so maybe we have different priorities. For ubers, I run specific setups different from normal pvm, no merc, and in this case you don't need Teleport as much. I also don't ever run Exile, which to me is a dedicated uber smiter shield
Decrepify from reaper's toll on your merc can be kind of inconsistent unless you are teleporting him directly into groups of monsters. And might + Decrepify from your merc almost doubles your overall DPS on an endgame zealot build, so effective control of your merc is critical to get the most damage out of your build. Together with mobility, Enigma just gives me the best clear speed
But it looks like you might be making an all-in-one build, so maybe we have different priorities. For ubers, I run specific setups different from normal pvm, no merc, and in this case you don't need Teleport as much. I also don't ever run Exile, which to me is a dedicated uber smiter shield
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No reaper's on the merc sadly. He's rocking an Obedience atm. Definitely sort of an all-rounder.marl71 wrote: 5 months ago No, there is no clear-cut answer. My preference, the build guides, and content creators I follow all favor Enigma. For mobility is one reason, but I think the main reason is for controlling your merc
Decrepify from reaper's toll on your merc can be kind of inconsistent unless you are teleporting him directly into groups of monsters. And might + Decrepify from your merc almost doubles your overall DPS on an endgame zealot build, so effective control of your merc is critical to get the most damage out of your build. Together with mobility, Enigma just gives me the best clear speed
But it looks like you might be making an all-in-one build, so maybe we have different priorities. For ubers, I run specific setups different from normal pvm, no merc, and in this case you don't need Teleport as much. I also don't ever run Exile, which to me is a dedicated uber smiter shield
Offers of perfect amethysts, Hel runes, tokens, and keys are also welcome.
Something to keep in mind is clear speed from movement. My bowazon kills things a lot faster than my paladin, but she walks so much slower its about a wash for overall clear speed. You could put your character into maxroll and see how much more damage you get from Fortitude.
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Thanks for understanding.
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Thanks for understanding.
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Love this idea. Unfortunately Phoenix is well outside my budget atm. I'm struggling to get the Wealth to aquire the Lo for a Fortitude. And I'm not sure how much value I'd get from the damage boost as I mostly play online solo as the majority of my online friends are rarely available to play these days and I'm not a fan of joining games with random people I don't know.trentor wrote: 5 months ago although the OP was asking about armor for his zealer, wanted to flag that changing Exile to Phoenix might also be a good option.
If you have the runes and a proper base, switching to Phoenix may boost your damage significantly as it adds +400% ED and also gives you extra sustain due to the aura.
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Considering you're using a Phase Blade and going to max out Fanatacism, Fade is the only benefit to wearing a Treachery, and in my view not enough of a benefit. A cheap alternative until you can get better is a Duress. My Paly has been smiting Ubers for almost 2 years wearing one.
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Duress aquired...mhlg wrote: 5 months ago Considering you're using a Phase Blade and going to max out Fanatacism, Fade is the only benefit to wearing a Treachery, and in my view not enough of a benefit. A cheap alternative until you can get better is a Duress. My Paly has been smiting Ubers for almost 2 years wearing one.
Offers of perfect amethysts, Hel runes, tokens, and keys are also welcome.
Mine is rocking Fortitude, Phoenix Zakarum Shield, Crown of Ages, Steelrend and Grief. But I guess Enigma is also okay.
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Well mind the fact that no other class can even compete with Paladin in the running speed department solely because of Charge availability.davme_mcreg wrote: 5 months ago Something to keep in mind is clear speed from movement. My bowazon kills things a lot faster than my paladin, but she walks so much slower its about a wash for overall clear speed. You could put your character into maxroll and see how much more damage you get from Fortitude.
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/
I personally wouldn't ever want to use Enigma on a Paladin since he can move around so quickly anyway... I would highly suggest to go for CoH (because you should aim for at least 300 all res in total to nullify Über Mephisto 's Conviction) at the end but surely use Duress as it is probably the best budget armor you can get your hands on.
P.S. Also I thought Fortitude 's +ED doesn't apply to Smite, only flat dmg does?
Someone much smarter than me already said once: "The real value of something doesn't reflect in a number of how much a seller can ask for it, but on how much a buyer is willing to pay."
I'll be changing my uber smitter to an uber zealot and I'm definitely using Fortitude, I may leave a spare Enigma to swap in case I want to do some mf.
What I'm not sure about is if I should use Exile or Herald Of Zakarum
What I'm not sure about is if I should use Exile or Herald Of Zakarum
I would say if you are gonna do const. Ubers then stick with Exile, otherwise (also if you are using Dracs) take HoZ.
As a final note, if someone is desperate for Life Tap or using budget items -- you can always shop for a simple Life Tap Wand and have it on swap
Someone much smarter than me already said once: "The real value of something doesn't reflect in a number of how much a seller can ask for it, but on how much a buyer is willing to pay."
well its gona be an all around use for this one, so I guess I'll get a nice Zakarum
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The best armor for a zealot paladin is Fortitude no doubt. Duress as a Budget option. For your merc Obedience is better than reappers' Toll to help with ubers. First Obedience has a high percentage of crushing blow (40%). Second, you are using Exile. It grants chance of Life Tap curse. You cannot have two curses at the same time. Changing to decripify curse maybe isn't what you want.
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If you want Life Tap, any other curse source will mess with your play...
But if you don't want/need Life Tap...
Remember that Ubers have positive Physical resistance, so Amplify Damage / Decrepify will increase your Crushing Blow damage.
As most of the Ubers have 50% Physical resistance, with Decrepify you will be doing double damage from your Crushing Blow!
Assuming that you have Crushing Blow on yourself, your Merc making your Crushing Blow deal 2x damage is probably better then your Merc having a chance of Crushing Blow on himself (even a high one)
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But if you don't want/need Life Tap...
Remember that Ubers have positive Physical resistance, so Amplify Damage / Decrepify will increase your Crushing Blow damage.
As most of the Ubers have 50% Physical resistance, with Decrepify you will be doing double damage from your Crushing Blow!
Assuming that you have Crushing Blow on yourself, your Merc making your Crushing Blow deal 2x damage is probably better then your Merc having a chance of Crushing Blow on himself (even a high one)
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Physical resistance does apply to Crushing Blow damage, but only if the resistance is positive. This means that Amplify Damage and Decrepify do not affect Crushing Blows beyond reducing the monsters physical resistance to zero.
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