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Hi all, I'm a bit perplexed in terms of how much IAS is required to hit 7fpa for
Double Throw
.

With warren IAS calculator, it seems like I only need 83 IAS from gear with a lvl 15 fana from Faith on the act 1 hireling. But after creating the character on the maxroll build,
Double Throw
only shows 8fpa when using the BIS* throw barb gear (LOH, highland,
Warshrike
,
Lacerator
, IAS jeweled
Helm
). However, if I switch the
Helm
to mavina's
Diadem
, 30ias, I'm able to hit 7fpa.

So now I am assuming that I am calculating total IAS from the gears incorrectly....specifically Weapon IAS.

Are the 30ias from each the war shrike and
Lacerator
halved when calculating the IAS for doublethrow?
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Hi all, I'm a bit perplexed in terms of how much IAS is required to hit 7fpa for
Double Throw
.

With warren IAS calculator, it seems like I only need 83 IAS from gear with a lvl 15 fana from Faith on the act 1 hireling. But after creating the character on the maxroll build,
Double Throw
only shows 8fpa when using the BIS* throw barb gear (LOH, highland,
Warshrike
,
Lacerator
, IAS jeweled
Helm
). However, if I switch the
Helm
to mavina's
Diadem
, 30ias, I'm able to hit 7fpa.

So now I am assuming that I am calculating total IAS from the gears incorrectly....specifically Weapon IAS.

Are the 30ias from each the war shrike and
Lacerator
halved when calculating the IAS for doublethrow?
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Atomicharmony24 wrote: 7 months ago
Are the 30ias from each the war shrike and
Lacerator
halved when calculating the IAS for doublethrow?
On-weapon IAS is counted and added to the IAS total only from the mainhand weapon (left side). IAS from off-hand weapon isn't accounted for at all (including act5 mercenary), except when using
Whirlwind
.

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Queegon wrote: 7 months ago
Atomicharmony24 wrote: 7 months ago
Are the 30ias from each the war shrike and
Lacerator
halved when calculating the IAS for doublethrow?
On-weapon IAS is counted and added to the IAS total only from the mainhand weapon (left side). IAS from off-hand weapon isn't accounted for at all (including act5 mercenary), except when using
Whirlwind
.
Thanks Queegon once again for the Insight. That was exactly how I remember it works.

So would that mean one of Warren IAS calculator is incorrect or maxroll build calculator is incorrect?

With a total of 85ias, I should be hitting 7fpa as it shows 83ias is needed in Warren calculator, but maxroll shows that I’m only hitting 8fpa.
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Fanaticism
doesn't work by just adding IAS, it also lowers the amount of IAS required to reach a given breakpoint.

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Knappogue wrote: 7 months ago
Fanaticism
doesn't work by just adding IAS, it also lowers the amount of IAS required to reach a given breakpoint.
Yes, you can see it as that
Fanaticism
effectively lowers the gear-IAS breakpoints.

Technically speaking, skill-based IAS (like
Fanaticism
) always work at full effect (the % you see is the actual value used by the game in the internal calculations), while gear-based IAS suffers from diminishing returns (the % you get is lower than the sum from gear). Looking at it the other way around, from the perspective of gear IAS (which is what you do 99% of the time), you could say that the skill-based IAS has a bigger effect than the % listed on the skill in terms of gear IAS.

Maxroll has a (very technical and mathematical) article on this;
https://maxroll.gg/d2/resources/attack-speed

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Oh wow. Didn’t know that. Thank you all.
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