Anyone tried a dual dream-Paladin with a Doom-weapon and a Dragon-armor on top + an Infinity-merc?

Hi there,

I'm playing a classic-Tesladin with dual Dream + Grief + Fortitude and a Pride-merc. I want to test something different and want to know if the combination in the topic is worthwhile the runes it would cost. The merc would have an Infinity as I need Level 2 Fanaticsm + the 45% IAS from Doom (made with a

War Spike or a

Scourge) + 40% IAS from LoH &

Highlord's Wrath to reach the max

Zeal-breakpoint. The skillpoints I freed from

Conviction would go into

Resist Cold and

Resist Fire to boost the two auras.

Another option would be dual Dream + Doom-weapon but not with a Dragon-armor but a Fortitude-armor and maxed out

Resist Cold.

Has anyone tried this and how is the damage compared to a dual Dream-Paladin with Grief and Fortitude? I'm tempted but I don't want to waste the runes needed for such a plan.

Thanks in advance .

ThePfusch wrote: 2 years ago

Hi there,

I'm playing a classic-Tesladin with dual Dream + Grief + Fortitude and a Pride-merc. I want to test something different and want to know if the combination in the topic is worthwhile the runes it would cost. The merc would have an Infinity as I need Level 2 Fanaticsm + the 45% IAS from Doom (made with a

War Spike or a

Scourge) + 40% IAS from LoH &

Highlord's Wrath to reach the max

Zeal-breakpoint. The skillpoints I freed from

Conviction would go into

Resist Cold and

Resist Fire to boost the two auras.

Another option would be dual Dream + Doom-weapon but not with a Dragon-armor but a Fortitude-armor and maxed out

Resist Cold.

Has anyone tried this and how is the damage compared to a dual Dream-Paladin with Grief and Fortitude? I'm tempted but I don't want to waste the runes needed for such a plan.

Thanks in advance .

Do you actually want to hit things or kill stuff just by walking around? I have a bunch of the gear I have been testing and found a few set ups that work. I haven't tried the Infinity on merc yet but was considering it.

My current build is expensive but lazy...
Hand of Justice PB, Dragon Ap, Dragon SR, 3 5/5 fire faceted

Diadem of the whale. 30 maras, Bk,

Raven, Dungo, E trek,

Laying of Hands, high torch and anni. I have max resists and melt anything not fire immune in any player difficulty... fire immunes on the other hand take a few

Zeal hits but I dont really bother with them. I have a stacked A5 merc with Grief, Last Wish, efort, chammed arreats and he kills whatever my aura doesnt. I have just stood there 4x while dclone spawns and watched him kill it in a 3 player game.

I want to hit things .

ThePfusch wrote: 2 years ago

I want to hit things .

edited my previous post with more detail.

If you want to hit things Dual Dream, fort, and weapon of choice. If you have Infinity on merc you won't hit max

Conviction though. Doom with light/cold/

Salvation synergies should do plenty of damage and slow from cold. But be prepared for high repair costs from using

Zeal on a non-indestructible weapon

Like 15 years ago, I had both a dreamer with Fortitude and Grief and one with Hand of Justice and Dragon.
The Hand of Justice one was underwhelming because of worse leech, not enough skill points for 20 points in

Holy Shield. I think the damage was worse as well.

But if you want to try different dreamer builds, consider Faith on an act 1 merc.

Verband wrote: 2 years ago

Like 15 years ago, I had both a dreamer with Fortitude and Grief and one with Hand of Justice and Dragon.
The Hand of Justice one was underwhelming because of worse leech, not enough skill points for 20 points in

Holy Shield. I think the damage was worse as well.

But if you want to try different dreamer builds, consider Faith on an act 1 merc.

I currently do not own a Faith and at the moment I do not possess the runes to make Faith AND other expensive rws. This would be a project for the future.
With my current build I dumped just one skillpoint in

Holy Shield and with the charms and other +skill-gear I get 10 skillpoints (plus 1 from the CTA-buff) which is safe enough for me, no need for 20 skill points there .

Azer-Archon wrote: 2 years ago

ThePfusch wrote: 2 years ago

I want to hit things .

edited my previous post with more detail.

If you want to hit things Dual Dream, fort, and weapon of choice. If you have Infinity on merc you won't hit max

Conviction though. Doom with light/cold/

Salvation synergies should do plenty of damage and slow from cold. But be prepared for high repair costs from using

Zeal on a non-indestructible weapon

Mmmh, I didn't want to

Sacrifice the max-

Zeal-bp in my first consideration. But I think max

Conviction + lower

Zeal-bp would generate more damage than Lvl 12

Conviction from Infinity + max-

Zeal-bp when I think about it. Maybe I'll make just a Doom-

Scourge with no changes in the skills and switch it with my Grief to test as a starter.
The idea of having all three elemental auras is still tempting, but I'm not sure if the shift away from my original setup would be worth the cost.

I ditched the idea of combining Doom with Dual Dream, there is just no way to achieve the 5,2 APS-bp with

Zeal while having a Level 25

Conviction-Aura + Dragon-armor. With Treachery I would have reached the last

Zeal-bp, but then my Paladin would deal much less damage as planned.

So I made a Dragon-Armor and a Hand of Justice in a

Phase Blade and combined them with Dual Dream and this setup just blows my mind . It is much stronger than Dual Dream + Grief + Fortitude, even in River of Flames & Chaos it is overall faster than my previous setup despite the fire immunes. The two Level 30 Auras are so strong, in WSK the Burning Souls are done with just two aura-ticks and interestingly the loss of nearly 7000 buffed defense is no loss but an advantage 'cause the more I got hit the quicker

Confuse from the Dreams will proc. Also the Freezes Target- and Hit blinds target-mods are nice.
I still use the Might-merc from Act 2 and he wields a Pride to buff the physical damage which is much lower then the damage from the two auras but high enough to kill mobs which are immune to lightning AND fire reasonably fast.

So far the most damaging setup my Paladin had until now .