Exceptional vs elite paladin shields when smite

Hi,
Is there big difference between exceptional and elite paladin shield in damage especially for one point smiter?

Yes and no.

There's a massive difference just looking at the shields, simply because the elite version has right around double the

Smite damage as compared to exceptional.

That difference is toned down a bit however because a very significant chunk of base

Smite damage actually comes from

Holy Shield. So it isn't all just your shield. It is even more toned down if you run with Grief as that adds even more flat dmg independent of the shield.

Either way though, the difference is there and it is noticeable. Personally, I would always get an elite shield for smiting no matter what.

Ethereal or not however does not matter much here.

Eth only affects the defense of a shield, not the

Smite damage.

Only if you're lacking in defense which doubtful with

Holy Shield. That's the only difference cause damage to ubers comes from Crushing Blow not the damage on shield. So say like a normal hoz vs upped one is just some def and higher strength req.

I am asking because i can buy Phoenix shield in

Akaran Targe and from time to time i run ubers. I dont have Grief but i am using combination of Death and Redeemer +115 to finish off. But currently i have elite shields equipped. If i will start to have problems at ubers. But that Phoenix will be cheaper.

Keep in mind, that there is a slight difference in blocking chance between exceptional and elite shields, e.g.
-

Targe: 40%
-

Akaran Targe: 40%
-

Sacred Targe: 60%

https://diablo-archive.fandom.com/wiki/ ... Diablo_II)

If you care about max block, you need to invest fewer points into dext with elite shields.

SuperIllu wrote: 3 years ago

Keep in mind, that there is a slight difference in blocking chance between exceptional and elite shields, e.g.
-

Targe: 40%
-

Akaran Targe: 40%
-

Sacred Targe: 60%

https://diablo-archive.fandom.com/wiki/ ... Diablo_II)

If you care about max block, you need to invest fewer points into dext with elite shields.

Yes and

Holy Shield will add a significant amount before that. 1 hard point adds 25% def and 14% block 20 310% def and 35% block. So as long as you got 40% chance to block,

Holy Shield will cover the rest and that's without any buffs from equipment or gcs.

I will probably go with that Phoenix in exceptional shield if i get it cheaper. I could go combo Death + exceptional shield and Redeemer + Elite shield.

I'm assuming you'd use that for what you normally do and just don't want to carry a 2nd shield for smiting? Because if it were solely for

Smite, you'd likely be far happier just buying an elite Exile for a fraction of the price instead.

Yes i want Phoenix for normal farming and split farms mainly, its what i do 90% of time.

Any idea about value of such Phoenix in exceptional shield with mediocre rolls, how much should i offer?

Why Pheonix if you aren't using fire ? That's the only thing that makes that shield gg imo.

Cinomed541 wrote: 3 years ago

Why Pheonix if you aren't using fire ? That's the only thing that makes that shield gg imo.

400% ED.
(Or

Redemption I guess, depending on build)

Schnorki wrote: 3 years ago

Cinomed541 wrote: 3 years ago

Why Pheonix if you aren't using fire ? That's the only thing that makes that shield gg imo.

400% ED.
(Or

Redemption I guess, depending on build)

I could see that for very mana heavy users that want a better weapon on merc than an Insight but I still feel it'd be lackluster using single target attacks redeeming one body at a time

Well, the builds that care about

Redemption tend to not be into single targets.

Schnorki wrote: 3 years ago

Well, the builds that care about

Redemption tend to not be into single targets.

I just don't feel like Pheonix would be the right shield for this particular instance. For that price could easily get a Grief, HoZ, even make an Exile or CoH. But that's what makes D2 awesome, you can use different equipment than everyone and still have a viable build.

I want it purely for ED. Yes i know i should use Grief and Exile and Reapers on Merc, but i dont want to. Everybody is using that. But i am using Death instead of Grief and Pride on Merc instead of Reapers and last piece is Phoenix .

Still last question how much should i offer? Currently i am at 2x

Sur

Cham

Vex 6

Ist. So i am getting close to build my own. How much would you offer for mediocre Phoenix in exceptional shield?

Sanjozko wrote: 3 years ago

I want it purely for ED. Yes i know i should use Grief and Exile and Reapers on Merc, but i dont want to. Everybody is using that. But i am using Death instead of Grief and Pride on Merc instead of Reapers and last piece is Phoenix .

Still last question how much should i offer? Currently i am at 2x

Sur

Cham

Vex 6

Ist. So i am getting close to build my own. How much would you offer for mediocre Phoenix in exceptional shield?

That is waaaaay to much. Turn the two

Sur into a

Ber and trade that for

Jah +

Lo Keep the

Vex abd I suppose sell

Cham for the other

Vex and sup

Monarch. That's more than enough to make it right there. I say do the

Monarch because it will still have great resell value if you decide to go another route after patch.

Have to agree on the "waaaay too much" part.

Though trading a

Ber for

Jah +

Lo isn't exactly normal pricing and might take a while. If it works at all.

And since I for one believe people should know why they do what they do and follow through accordingly, I'd disagree with the

Monarch. If you're building it for a pally, build it for a pally. With a solid pally shield. Not only does that mean you get significantly more

Smite damage but you also get the added benefit of extra res or even more damage from the pally shield bonus. Plus elite pally shields really don't cost that much anymore (unless you insist on 45 res

Eth but that won't be the case here).
Though yes, if you're not sure about the pally part..that will kill resale value by comparison.

If i will make it myself i will definitely do it in elite pally shield, since getting 40+ all res elsewhere would be much more expensive.

I cant even trade 2Sur/

Ber for

Jah

Vex, cant imagine how long would i be trading it for

Jah

Lo.

I play on xbox most the time so prices are weird. Lol