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What's the difference between gambling between the two? Which do you prefer to gamble your hard earn gold on and why?
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What's the difference between gambling between the two? Which do you prefer to gamble your hard earn gold on and why?
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Hothead12 wrote: 2 years ago
What's the difference between gambling between the two? Which do you prefer to gamble your hard earn gold on and why?
As far as I know there is a chance for
Coronet
to become
Tiara
(exceptional version of armor) and
Diadem
(elite version).
Circlet
remains
Circlet
.

And if we got
Tiara
/
Diadem
, then unid
Coronet
is replaced by unid
Circlet
in the gambling window.

Thus, the more efficient strategy is to gamble Coronets than Circlets, since
Tiara
/
Diadem
can have 3 sockets while a
Circlet
only 2.

Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Also you can Dream for Grifon if gambling coronets.
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Definitely gambled a kiras guardian other day. Cried a little. Wanted griffin. Gamble coronets
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I only gamble for coronets. Like Nitro already explained, coros can turn out to be tiaras and diadems, but circs cannot. Plus, the item level of coros is higher, and so it can roll better stats in magic or rare than a circ, so gambling a circ is a poor choice when you can get a coro instead.
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TL;DR
If you want to try your less than 1:2000 chance for
Griffon's Eye
, gamble
Coronet
AND gamble the
Circlet
that show up after in their spot.
If you want to go for GG rare, gamble coronets only.


Explanation:
When you gamble a
Coronet
and you get a
Tiara
/
Diadem
, the gambling window reverts to
Circlet
. If it doesn't it means there's another
Diadem
/
Tiara
up for grabs up until a
Circlet
shows.

When it does revert to
Circlet
, gamble circlets until it transforms to
Coronet
again. That means it's at least a
Tiara
again.

This method saves you money since
Circlet
are cheaper and you only care for the
Diadem
.
halflife wrote: 2 years ago
Like Nitro already explained, coros can turn out to be tiaras and diadems, but circs cannot.
This is wrong.

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It terms of
Griffon's Eye
, does character level matters? I heard 93 lvl is a kind of threshold lvl to get GG rolls, at least for crafting amulets

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The item level is randomly selected from the range of char level -5 to char level +4.
Depending on what affixes you want, you need to take that into account.

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Schnorki 3777Moderator

PC
I do recommend you start gambling circlets instead.

True, you do need a
Coronet
to upgrade to
Tiara
or
Diadem
but (at least as of right now, for D2:R), you don't have to start with a
Coronet
to do that. You gamble circlets, you get circlets and whenever the game would upgrade the next one (but couldn't due to it being a
Circlet
), that
Circlet
is automatically replaced with a
Coronet
. This replacing
Coronet
then always automatically becomes a
Tiara
or
Diadem
.

I.e. if you solely buy circlets and only the coronets those circlets turn into in the window, then you will never get a single
Coronet
, you will get a ton of circlets, you will still get your tiaras and diadems and you will pay less gold for all of it because you will only ever pay for a
Coronet
when you're guaranteed an upgrade. For all the ones that don't turn into tiaras or diadems, you only pay the
Circlet
price. I.e. significantly more purchases for the same gold.

As for the Griffon's question: Yes, lvl matters. You need lvl 80 minimum to even have a chance of gambling a Griffon's. However, at that lvl you need to a) roll high enough in the ilvl range to get it and then b) still roll a
Diadem
upgrade, in addition to the usual chance to turn it unique. That's like a 1 in 3 million chance, roughly. As you lvl up from there, you then get to the point where range no longer matters because even a low roll there still allows for a Griffon's. Moving further up increases your chances again by buffing the
Diadem
roll chance. So as you go to 90, you end up with something around 1 in 80k which further improves to ~1 in 37k by 99.
(Numbers sourced from drop calc and rounded)
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but is the chance to for the
Circlet
to roll a
Coronet
the same as it is for a
Coronet
to roll a
Tiara
?


and can you get multiple tiaras in a row from the
Circlet
-->
Coronet
combo?

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Schnorki 3777Moderator

PC
While I'm not sure how reliable "official/released numbers" on the chance comparison are, testing by various folks as well as myself seems to indicate that yes, the chance is about the same. The Maxroll drop calc for example also lists the same chance for both.

And yes, you can get multiple tiaras/diadems in a row. That one I know for certain as I've had it happen multiple times.
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Luckily we have the internets and someone has already worked out some decent math for you in a spreadsheet. Gambling on circlets until it switches to
Coronet
will save you lots of gold in the long run if you are looking to get a
Griffon's Eye



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Schnorki wrote: 2 years ago
You gamble circlets, you get circlets and whenever the game would upgrade the next one (but couldn't due to it being a
Circlet
), that
Circlet
is automatically replaced with a
Coronet
. This replacing
Coronet
then always automatically becomes a
Tiara
or
Diadem
.
Didn't know about that, thank you for information.
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I've been using the
Circlet
gambling method. It does save money in the long run.

I'd really only recommend gambling for gg rares. Griffon's is an amazing surprise if you get it, but you'll probably find many bers in the amount of Trav runs it'd take to get sufficient gold for gambling.
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