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Shopping for white staves/wands with lvl 18 (tier 4) skills

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Any vendor sells items with ilvl = clvl + 5. At ilvl >=25 all vendor items will be magical. This means that clvl 19 is the latest point any character can still buy White items.

Drognan
is limited to ilvl 20 items in normal, which means he cannot sell items with + to tier 4 skills (like
Enchant
).
Ormus
is limited to ilvl 28 items, which if White, could spawn tier 4 skills.

If I understood it correctly, this article on maxroll states that items with 19 <= iLVL <= 24 have a 20% chance to spawn with tier 4 skills, if they roll to spawn skills.

Does this mean that I could get lucky and see a non-magic
Wand
or staff with tier 4 skills when shopping at
Ormus
in normal with a level 19 character?

Does the same hold for act 4+5 vendors? What about nm + hell?
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Any vendor sells items with ilvl = clvl + 5. At ilvl >=25 all vendor items will be magical. This means that clvl 19 is the latest point any character can still buy White items.

Drognan
is limited to ilvl 20 items in normal, which means he cannot sell items with + to tier 4 skills (like
Enchant
).
Ormus
is limited to ilvl 28 items, which if White, could spawn tier 4 skills.

If I understood it correctly, this article on maxroll states that items with 19 <= iLVL <= 24 have a 20% chance to spawn with tier 4 skills, if they roll to spawn skills.

Does this mean that I could get lucky and see a non-magic
Wand
or staff with tier 4 skills when shopping at
Ormus
in normal with a level 19 character?

Does the same hold for act 4+5 vendors? What about nm + hell?
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Yes And no. You can actually get them from
Drognan
as well.
Bone Spear
is a tier 4 staff mod, I believe you can start getting Bone Wands with +3 to
Bone Spear
at lvl 17 from
Drognan
. Other staff mods and items not sure on, just know for 100% you can get
Bone Spear
staff mods at 17. But I believe
Drognan
is the last one that sells "White" bases in normal. Just him and
Akara
. And there is no lvl
Cap
on them, I can shop on my lvl 90 and still find White bases.

Xbox GT: Cinomed541 add me if you need someone to play with.
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OP
Cinomed541 wrote: 3 years ago
Yes And no. You can actually get them from
Drognan
as well.
Bone Spear
is a tier 4 staff mod, I believe you can start getting Bone Wands with +3 to
Bone Spear
at lvl 17 from
Drognan
. Other staff mods and items not sure on, just know for 100% you can get
Bone Spear
staff mods at 17. But I believe
Drognan
is the last one that sells "White" bases in normal. Just him and
Akara
. And there is no lvl
Cap
on them, I can shop on my lvl 90 and still find White bases.
It is because there's a level
Cap
on them that you can shop those items, even at clvl 90.

Normally a shop has items with ilvl equal to your clvl + 5.

However, some have caps, particularly in lower difficulties.

Drognan
is lvl 20 and
Akara
lvl 12.

All I know is items over ilvl 24 are always magic.

What I'm unsure of is if
Ormus
whose
Cap
is 28, sells White items if they're ilvl 24 (ie. you char is clvl 19)

Generally people recommend level 17 not because it has some special chance to get better White items, but because the ones with the skills there after (level 18 ones) are red in the UI since they can't equip them yet. That makes it easier to quickly check.
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Katonda wrote: 3 years ago
Cinomed541 wrote: 3 years ago
Yes And no. You can actually get them from
Drognan
as well.
Bone Spear
is a tier 4 staff mod, I believe you can start getting Bone Wands with +3 to
Bone Spear
at lvl 17 from
Drognan
. Other staff mods and items not sure on, just know for 100% you can get
Bone Spear
staff mods at 17. But I believe
Drognan
is the last one that sells "White" bases in normal. Just him and
Akara
. And there is no lvl
Cap
on them, I can shop on my lvl 90 and still find White bases.
It is because there's a level
Cap
on them that you can shop those items, even at clvl 90.

Normally a shop has items with ilvl equal to your clvl + 5.

However, some have caps, particularly in lower difficulties.

Drognan
is lvl 20 and
Akara
lvl 12.

All I know is items over ilvl 24 are always magic.

What I'm unsure of is if
Ormus
whose
Cap
is 28, sells White items if they're ilvl 24 (ie. you char is clvl 19)

Generally people recommend level 17 not because it has some special chance to get better White items, but because the ones with the skills there after (level 18 ones) are red in the UI since they can't equip them yet. That makes it easier to quickly check.
all acts in normal mode have shops that sells White items before character level 20. wands sold by
Akara
can have have max 1 socket. so those can't be used for the runeword.
Bone Wand
can have 2 sockets.
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So anyone go to
Ormus
at lvl 19 and confirm this? Would love to shop a
Bone Spear
/
Attract
/decrep
Wand
rather than try and find one in the wild!
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I bought many +3
Bone Spear
Wand
from
Drognan
, normal.
Clay Golem
, iron, never get decrep, but still good for White. It takes some time (about 2h) but it's possible. My last +3
Bone Spear
, +2 decrep was unfortunately from traderie.
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So i did about 90 mins of shopping at
Ormus
, never once saw decrep or
Attract
… not even on the magic ones.

I guess I’ll just have to wait for one to drop… gross
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TheDoo 393

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Same as me who never founded +3 BO spears in 20+ hours of
Anya
shopping so far. RNG is just ridiculous sometimes... And even those +3
Bone Spear
wands are sooo rare it's painful but they exist (
Drognan
I'm looking at you).


Something I heard is if you don't have enough str and/or dex then some items that req. that won't spawn in shops for you even tho you 'unlocked' them being appropriate level.

Now since OP is asking about wands can't confirm or deny that, but I definitely seen +3 BS wands in
Drognan
's assortment and even bought a few of those with 2os, ideal thing for White for the Bone Necro actually.

Ma neeeeeeema veeeeeeeze! xd

Someone much smarter than me already said once: "The real value of something doesn't reflect in a number of how much a seller can ask for it, but on how much a buyer is willing to pay."
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