Rune Questions

I was wondering about rune prices. I did see a post on here that was helpful but what about lower runes like a

Fal or

Ko? How many of these would I need to equal an

Ist? Or maybe equal like a

Pul to work my way up the ladder toward

Ist? My point is I'm trading lots of items for runes but I don't know if selling stuff for a

Fal or

Ko is even worth it unless I need that rune for something?

Anything for a

Pul I've offered x2

Fal and usually get.

Ko can get some low stuff, like I bought a pair of 31% chances with a

Ko. Mid runes are a niche market cause some runewords use them and a few cube recipes. Best bet and what I do with them is upgrade them. Do normal cows and collect chipped and flawed gems and just keep pumping them up to

Pul then sell the puls

Ko/

Fal/

Lem are the minimum currency runes for stuff that's worth basically nothing. They can drop from Countess on Hell, too, so they're not really rare. Just cube them once you have too many.

Not that what I do is by any means the best way to do it, but

Lum is the lowest rune I consider trading an item for. If it's worth less than a

Lum, I don't consider it worth my time. So I guess

Lum is what I'd consider the first "mid-rune" in my world, I consider

Lum,

Ko,

Fal, and

Lem lower-mid runes. I cube:

Lum ->

Ko ->

Fal ->

Lem

I stop cubing up at

Lem because to cube up to a

Pul it requires 3x

Lem and you can easily trade 2x

Lem for a

Pul in public games, I do it all the time.

Pul,

Um,

Mal,

Ist,

Gul is what I personally consider "high-mid runes". You'll start to build those up by cubing up the lower mid-runes and then from there you can start to work your way into the actual high rune territory.

Again, totally my approach but figured I'd share.

I almost never cube up my

Lum/

Ko/

Fal. They're best for low value offers, or trading for Pgems. You can usually get about 3-5 Pgems for them. Trade those Pgems in for a

Lem-

Pul and you can build some Wealth. It takes 3 Lums to cube up to 1

Ko. Those three

Lum are worth as much as 9 Pgems, while that one

Ko is worth probably 4 PGems.

I also don't recommend cubing

Lem. 2

Lem are equal to a

Pul value, while it takes 3

Lem to cube up to a

Pul. Honestly, I don't recommend cubing anything above

Lum. Cubing

Io to

Lum is fine, but

Hel is worth more than

Io.

To answer your question directly, you would need about 25-40

Lum/

Ko/

Fal to equal an

Ist, but not many people would ever want to do that trade.

stewie039 wrote: 3 years ago

I did see a post on here that was helpful but what about lower runes like a

Fal or

Ko? How many of these would I need to equal an

Ist? Or maybe equal like a

Pul to work my way up the ladder toward

Ist?

According to Morphin's Rune Guide that everyone uses,

Lem = 1/12th

Ist. And

Fal and

Ko are lower so you'd need like 20+ of them to equal an

Ist. The Trade Value Guides for 2021 also has a mid-low rune section to give a general idea of value

Daeblana wrote: 3 years ago

Not that what I do is by any means the best way to do it, but

Lum is the lowest rune I consider trading an item for. If it's worth less than a

Lum, I don't consider it worth my time. So I guess

Lum is what I'd consider the first "mid-rune" in my world, I consider

Lum,

Ko,

Fal, and

Lem lower-mid runes. I cube:

Lum ->

Ko ->

Fal ->

Lem

I stop cubing up at

Lem because to cube up to a

Pul it requires 3x

Lem and you can easily trade 2x

Lem for a

Pul in public games, I do it all the time.

Pul,

Um,

Mal,

Ist,

Gul is what I personally consider "high-mid runes". You'll start to build those up by cubing up the lower mid-runes and then from there you can start to work your way into the actual high rune territory.

Again, totally my approach but figured I'd share.

Honestly I'm even not that "rich", but I don't bother selling anything for less than a

Pul, or maybe

Lem depending on my mood.

If something is below a

Lem, I'll usually just create a "free <insert item>" game and leave it on the floor while I farm.

Just by cubing, you would need 3 (

Lum to

Ko) x 3 (

Ko to

Fal) x 3 (

Fal to

Lem) x 3 (

Lem to

Pul) = 81 Lums to make a

Pul. Keep in mind a

Pul is 1/6th of an

Ist, so by virtue a

Lum is worth 1/486 (0.2%) of an

Ist.

Even if it's just a few minutes, it's not worth my time to add someone's battletag, exchange messages, coordinate with them to meet in a game, then trade the item for 1/81st or honestly even 1/9th of a

Pul.

Lem is where is gets debatable - for 1/3rd to half of a

Pul, I'd probably be willing to make the effort.

But this is also just my personal perspective.

sonnytai331 wrote: 3 years ago

Daeblana wrote: 3 years ago

Not that what I do is by any means the best way to do it, but

Lum is the lowest rune I consider trading an item for. If it's worth less than a

Lum, I don't consider it worth my time. So I guess

Lum is what I'd consider the first "mid-rune" in my world, I consider

Lum,

Ko,

Fal, and

Lem lower-mid runes. I cube:

Lum ->

Ko ->

Fal ->

Lem

I stop cubing up at

Lem because to cube up to a

Pul it requires 3x

Lem and you can easily trade 2x

Lem for a

Pul in public games, I do it all the time.

Pul,

Um,

Mal,

Ist,

Gul is what I personally consider "high-mid runes". You'll start to build those up by cubing up the lower mid-runes and then from there you can start to work your way into the actual high rune territory.

Again, totally my approach but figured I'd share.

Honestly I'm even not that "rich", but I don't bother selling anything for less than a

Pul, or maybe

Lem depending on my mood.

If something is below a

Lem, I'll usually just create a "free <insert item>" game and leave it on the floor while I farm.

Just by cubing, you would need 3 (

Lum to

Ko) x 3 (

Ko to

Fal) x 3 (

Fal to

Lem) x 3 (

Lem to

Pul) = 81 Lums to make a

Pul. Keep in mind a

Pul is 1/6th of an

Ist, so by virtue a

Lum is worth 1/486 (0.2%) of an

Ist.

Even if it's just a few minutes, it's not worth my time to add someone's battletag, exchange messages, coordinate with them to meet in a game, then trade the item for 1/81st or honestly even 1/9th of a

Pul.

Lem is where is gets debatable - for 1/3rd to half of a

Pul, I'd probably be willing to make the effort.

But this is also just my personal perspective.

Yeah I get where you're coming from. Your "free <insert item>" games sound like my "<insert item> for

Lum" games... I create those and just MF in them. I very rarely ever list anything on this site that I expect less than a

Lem for. I should have clarified that.

Thats what I used to do but Lems are decently used for some end game items I've seen on xbox. Lots of people making a gold find barb and stick lems in everything.

I don't even pick lower rune then

Pul (unless it is necessary for runeword)

And it's just a time waste to sell items for lower then

Pul

A lot of people don't, so makes room for them to sell when you need a runeword. It's like PGemz I don't pick up crap unless I need it, other people stock pile them and now make a

Pul off me when I want to reroll stuff. Everything's got a price and can be a hassle just depends on how hard you wanna grind. Only runes I keep are rals and the Insight ones. Find

Eth Polearms all the time and slap some sockets in there make Insight sell on another forum for at least x2

Ist