Please Explain the 40 This/40 That to Me

I refreshed the games list on PS5 and both non-ladder and ladder, andI saw five different games offering 40 Somethings for trade:

40

Perfect Gems
40

Perfect Gems
40

Perfect Gems
40

Ral
40

Ral

I realized I had no idea why

Perfect Gems are the poor's currency. I've traded some--mostly amethysts--for different bits and bobs, and I've been looking around the internet, but I really have know idea why they were desired in the first place. The cube recipes don't seem to interesting and repeatable enough to warrant the need for so very many. I sort of get

Topaz--at least for helms and armors--as a near

Ist rune, but I don't really understand 40

Perfect Ruby for example.

I don't really get the 40

Ral runes any better. Do people find awesome yet socket-free bases all the time or something!?

I'm not trying to be that person. I'm sorry if I come off that way. I've benefited from the economy so I'm not in any way complaining.

I'm legit wondering why some people seem to need so many of certain pieces.

I think I can guess at the reasoning behind 20 unidentified

Annihilus charms: for people searching for that 20/20/10?

Perfect Gems are mostly used to reroll grand charms.

Amethysts, rals and jewels are used to craft "Caster amulets", amulets with faster cast rates, in the hope to get one with +skills, and other useful stats. It takes a lot of crafts to get a good one, hence why people buy tons of these currencies. Same with pgems and rerolling grand charms.

And yeah, I'd assume people who buy tons of anni just want a perfect one, and prefer to gamble on it, vs paying the high cost by buying one.

People who buy lots of '

Tal

Thul

Ort

Amn' are just rerolling spirits, i.e. crafting it over and over again, til they get a perfect one.

Basically, anytime you see someone buy tons of a low rune/gem, they're going for a perfect/great roll on something, so they need to craft the item over and over.

Also you can only fit 40 things into a trade window

mishabg wrote: 2 years ago

Perfect Gems are mostly used to reroll grand charms.

Oh. Nice. So instead of trying to find the perfect Grand Charm skiller, you maybe only need to reroll that sucker!?

mishabg wrote: 2 years ago

Amethysts, rals and jewels are used to craft "Caster amulets", amulets with faster cast rates, in the hope to get one with +skills, and other useful stats.

That explains why a person dropped by one of my open trading games and dropped like 30 Magic Jewels. I guess they finally found the one for which they had been looking.

mishabg wrote: 2 years ago

People who buy lots of '

Tal

Thul

Ort

Amn' are just rerolling spirits, i.e. crafting it over and over again, til they get a perfect one.

I've seen a ton of Spirit swords up for trade so I guess that explains that as well.

mishabg wrote: 2 years ago

Basically, anytime you see someone buy tons of a low rune/gem, they're going for a perfect/great roll on something, so they need to craft the item over and over.

I get you.

phantomotap wrote: 2 years ago

Oh. Nice. So instead of trying to find the perfect Grand Charm skiller, you maybe only need to reroll that sucker!?

yes but they will use a GC dropped from diablo

Baal or nihlatak or from 'high lvl'

Terror zone so it can roll over 40+ life with skill

Okay. So before I ever start trying to reroll normal charms, make sure the item level is high enough!?

Is there a way to determine that from within the game? Does the required level indicate anything?

Is the charms rerolled to the same... concept? Will a skiller always be a skiller, for example?

Thanks.

Check this :
forums/grand-charm-45-life-t1240526.html

Tl;dr: do that on GCs only (only ones worth it) dropped from Hell

Baal, hell Diablo, hell

Nihlathak or hell

Terror Zone with game maker level being 89 at least (TZ level 91 or more)

Necrarch wrote: 2 years ago

Tl;dr: do that on GCs only (only ones worth it) dropped from Hell

Baal, hell Diablo, hell

Nihlathak or hell

Terror Zone with game maker level being 89 at least (TZ level 91 or more)

Okay. Now, I am sad. I was literally just setting here wondering if rolling a shimmering small charm of vita would be worth it.

Thanks.

Well, you can do it with SCs also, it's just much more rare to do so.
Not sure of the proper values of level to look for though.

Don't do it with LCs though, except torches, most of them are worthless (which can btw be a way of good deal, I have traded for

Pul a 30+/30+ life/mana LC. The same split into 2 15+/15+ SCs would be worth several times more, you just need to be fitting the LC in inventory which can be tricky.

Rerolling a magical

Monarch to look for Jeweler's

Monarch of Deflecting (JMOD) is also an option for using Pgems. Rubys are also often excluded from being traded as Pgems and are slightly more expensive, because you can

Sol-Jewel-Ring them into

Blood Ring or

Eth-Jewel-Light Plated/Battle/

Mirrored Boots into

Blood Boots. Please note that you should only start (mass) crafting when u got a high lvl character, i think by gambling with lvl 93 you'll get all the possible stats

And even more, don't reroll with PAmethysts, they are by far the most valuable gems due to most casters being after a 2/20 caster amulets.

Basically the usual rates I see are :
12-15 PAmethysts for an

Ist
30 PRubies for an

Ist
40 Pgems for an

Ist