GG sins. Blizz did it again.

GooberGirl wrote: 1 year ago

I wanted to tinker with some of this stuff, but I can't seem to be able to make them in SP. =( Am I missing something?

Also, good luck everyone in ladder!

What runes are you using? Keep in mind the RW was changed from

Thul on PTR to

Amn now.

Schnorki wrote: 1 year ago

What runes are you using? Keep in mind the RW was changed from

Thul on PTR to

Amn now.

Son of a.... Yup, totally a me thing. Thanks for the reminder!

Charges count already exist in Korean version of the game

And by korean version you mean yet another tolerated overlay mod?

I'm at the point where I'm considering respec'ing to lower my FoF skills.

I'm fully geared out and am looking at removing +skills. I'm at 34 FoF, and I'm missing the life leech.

I was of the opinion that I should max out FoF because it's a PS synergy, also because I'll use it outright. But maybe I should just back it off to 14/15 skill points and then dump those in

Cobra Strike or

Weapon Block?

Have one stat/skill reset left, so looking to pick others brains before committing!

You're not losing anything on PS by dropping your FoF.

Unlike the others, PS only hits with the

Charge you have up, not all 3. So if you get 2 (light) or 3 (cold) charges of PS up, you don't trigger the

Meteor, meaning all of that synergy improvement to it from FoF doesn't actually do anything anyways. And if you do run PS at 1

Charge for

Meteor spam then..well, you're doing it wrong cuz nothing should live long enough for that

Meteor to even land.

FoF still isn't bad as a dmg addition in and by itself but it doesn't need to be capped. Personally, I'd say put pts into it until you notice your leech dropping lower than you're comfortable with. Then respec one last time to that minus 1. Though I guess that's 1 more respec than you have left. Alternatively, just put 1 hard point into it, have +skill pump it to a still decent lvl, call it a day. Some FoF bonus but still plenty phys to leech with.

Schnorki wrote: 1 year ago

You're not losing anything on PS by dropping your FoF.

Unlike the others, PS only hits with the

Charge you have up, not all 3. So if you get 2 (light) or 3 (cold) charges of PS up, you don't trigger the

Meteor, meaning all of that synergy improvement to it from FoF doesn't actually do anything anyways. And if you do run PS at 1

Charge for

Meteor spam then..well, you're doing it wrong cuz nothing should live long enough for that

Meteor to even land.

I’m not 1 hit

Ko’ing Ubers yet, so the meteors have time to land

Schnorki wrote: 1 year ago

You're not losing anything on PS by dropping your FoF.

Unlike the others, PS only hits with the

Charge you have up, not all 3. So if you get 2 (light) or 3 (cold) charges of PS up, you don't trigger the

Meteor, meaning all of that synergy improvement to it from FoF doesn't actually do anything anyways. And if you do run PS at 1

Charge for

Meteor spam then..well, you're doing it wrong cuz nothing should live long enough for that

Meteor to even land.

FoF still isn't bad as a dmg addition in and by itself but it doesn't need to be capped. Personally, I'd say put pts into it until you notice your leech dropping lower than you're comfortable with. Then respec one last time to that minus 1. Though I guess that's 1 more respec than you have left. Alternatively, just put 1 hard point into it, have +skill pump it to a still decent lvl, call it a day. Some FoF bonus but still plenty phys to leech with.

So my solution to my leech problem has been to not use FoF charges. Lol, problem solved.

Hey, at least that's one less skill to

Charge-up during setup

ShadowHeart wrote: 1 year ago

Hey, at least that's one less skill to

Charge-up during setup

I miss the red part of the disco light ball, it was my favourite flair haha.

Playing her for the first day what this reminds me of is the

Iceblink barb in classic.
Same energy but with a few extra steps (or charges ^^)

Does this still crash PCs?

Some observations for those, probably most of us who do not have an Enigma:

• FRW helps a lot, I use Hustle 40% frw
  Boots and a Harmony merc, you can also switch back and forth between
  Burst of Speed and
  Fade.
• Never completely clear an area of mobs in case you have to backtrack.
• Use
  Dragon Flight when you first engage a pack, with that much FRW it will be difficult to click mobs, this also is useful so your merc will catch up.
• Have
  Mind Blast hot keyed so that you can safely
  Charge back up if you lost your charges.
• A good Ravenfrost is a must have.

Schnorki wrote: 1 year ago

You're not losing anything on PS by dropping your FoF.

Unlike the others, PS only hits with the

Charge you have up, not all 3. So if you get 2 (light) or 3 (cold) charges of PS up, you don't trigger the

Meteor, meaning all of that synergy improvement to it from FoF doesn't actually do anything anyways. And if you do run PS at 1

Charge for

Meteor spam then..well, you're doing it wrong cuz nothing should live long enough for that

Meteor to even land.

FoF still isn't bad as a dmg addition in and by itself but it doesn't need to be capped. Personally, I'd say put pts into it until you notice your leech dropping lower than you're comfortable with. Then respec one last time to that minus 1. Though I guess that's 1 more respec than you have left. Alternatively, just put 1 hard point into it, have +skill pump it to a still decent lvl, call it a day. Some FoF bonus but still plenty phys to leech with.

Schnorki, did you ever land on a preferred MA build? I've been watching this thread since you first started experimented and now that I am ready to build one, I see variations with upsides and downsides, most notably points allocated to

Fists of Fire and

Dragon Talon vs

Dragon Claw. I am interested in what you think works best and at various players counts if you have any thoughts on that. Thanks.

I landed on a couple actually, depending on what you do with it. For general PvE I'd stick with elemental (blades/

Claws/ps/...) and then just DF with lvl 1 talon.

For ubers and dclone hunting and whatnot

Dragon Tail with tiger offers a rather solid alternative. To make that actually better though, you really need to optimize your gear. The elemental version is far more forgiving but in that case better with full talon.


That having been said, I'm not actively playing any.
Gets too boring too quick imo (obviously quite subjective there).

Insomnia wrote: 1 year ago

Some observations for those, probably most of us who do not have an Enigma:

• FRW helps a lot, I use Hustle 40% frw
  Boots and a Harmony merc, you can also switch back and forth between
  Burst of Speed and
  Fade.
• Never completely clear an area of mobs in case you have to backtrack.
• Use
  Dragon Flight when you first engage a pack, with that much FRW it will be difficult to click mobs, this also is useful so your merc will catch up.
• Have
  Mind Blast hot keyed so that you can safely
  Charge back up if you lost your charges.
• A good Ravenfrost is a must have.

So Im now at the stage where I have a decision to make. Enigma or Infinity?

Conviction is probably a huge damage boost but

Teleport is huge. I made the decision to slip on CoH over Hustle and soon after put on a Cat's Eye and a Harmony slave cause it just didn't feel good to move so slow.

My decision my come down to my bases. I have an ethereal 4os CV. But a ethereal 4os

Thresher on NL. I can trade/find a 3 OS AP, I have a 3 OS

Mage Plate. Hmmm.

I you ask me it depends on how decked out you are and you play style.
If you are already one shotting mobs everything on higher player get the Enigma.
Also I don't get why people get so hung up on Enigma bases. You can get essentially the same def value with any elite base. And only very view builds can take advantage of high def armor anyway because you need some skill to enhance it to be relevant in mobs hitting you.(

Defiance,

Iron Skin,

Chilling Armor, etc..)

I wish I could say I was having fun working towards this build however I'm stuck without my first Mosaic and the journey for me has been frustrating at best.

My lack of good armor, resists, and anything good to trade effectively has me effectively stuck at Lv 76 in A2 Hell. I tried switching out my A2 merc for an A1 merc with an Insight bow, Treachery, and a

Tal Rasha's

Mask because that's what I've got from what I've found and traded which improved survivability, but not much. Missile weapons of any kind hit like a truck and I've lost count of the number of times that's screwed me over now.

Finally found a

Gul in A2 Hell yesterday but still no

Mal to build out my first Mosaic claw.

I've been running Pattern on both hands just to keep the resists up, and have two random +skills

Claws on the swap to buff

Burst of Speed and

Fade as needed.

I imagine I just need to respec and get some points elsewhere as the build guide I've been using needs optimal gear, and the budget gear build also isn't working out for me. Got 83 points to use, I'd welcome some ideas...https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/hw010666

Soli wrote: 1 year ago

So Im now at the stage where I have a decision to make. Enigma or Infinity?

Both. Neither. Either. Insomnia nailed it in that in really boils down to your current gear and play style (or rather play location). Generally speaking, an elemental Mosaic sin can annihilate basically any place in solid time without either. If/when you are at that stage, both are luxury pieces and which one is the bigger gain really depends on what you do:

Enigma cuts off significant run-time for things like ubers, keys, ... but really doesn't do much for full zone clears where you just dragonflight from one pack to the next anyways. Enigma also enables easier

Charge-management, allowing you to tele out and back into CS for diablo for a quick refresh before he spawns. Same goes for

Baal. So depending on where/what you tend to farm, the bonus from getting an Enigma is anywhere between "really quite small" to "very significant".

Infinity adds damage. That's basically it. If you are otherwise relatively decked and you do most of your farming on lower player counts, stuff should reliably die before Infinity would even tick to apply the aura, making the gain from it small to non-existent. And yet, if you run at higher player counts or focus on things like ubers, it does add a rather significant chunk to your overall performance. So that, too boils down to what/where you farm.

Though the mere thought of a CV Infinity seriously makes me cringe. Out of Principle more than anything. If you farmed up >2

Ber to build one to begin with, farming another

Gul to

Vex to get a proper base shouldn't be too big an ask imo.

Tey_Rossa wrote: 1 year ago

My lack of good armor, resists, and anything good to trade effectively has me effectively stuck at Lv 76 in A2 Hell.

Stick with A1 then. One of the rather convenient things about Mosaic is that you don't need anything beyond a

Gul to make it, meaning it is relatively (absurdly) cheap as compared to basically any other true main endgame piece (not counting some 40

Ber perfect base of course). As such, you can basically farm everything you need off of countess. Given, the odds of a direct

Gul aren't the best as her bonus rune table only goes up to

Ist but the odds of getting a

Mal and

Ist really aren't bad, not even counting the keys you can trade for full sets to then trade for

Gul +.

Given, that assumes you can take care of countess relatively efficiently at least and it also assumes you're not offline SSF (i.e. have access to trading) but working with those assumptions, it shouldn't be too hard to get the rest of what you're missing.

And once you do..it becomes night and day, even without any other gear, thanks to opening up the inherent over-stacking along with ridiculous enough leech to keep you going even in otherwise crap gear.

Tey_Rossa wrote: 1 year ago

Finally found a

Gul in A2 Hell yesterday but still no

Mal to build out my first Mosaic claw.

My thanks to a generous community member for donating a

Gul to me today. This community is awesome at helping each other out!