BIS armor for Nova sorc
Someone on Reddit claimed Ormus with 15% lightning damage and +3 to Nova is BIS for the Nova sorc. Needless to say, there has been vehement opposition.
What do the experts think of this expression, and why would anyone in their right mind say this?
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Someone on Reddit claimed Ormus with 15% lightning damage and +3 to Nova is BIS for the Nova sorc. Needless to say, there has been vehement opposition.
What do the experts think of this expression, and why would anyone in their right mind say this?
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Just like everything else with D2, "best" and "BiS" qualifiers depend on what your individual definition of those terms are. Speed? Survivability? Raw damage?
+3 Nova Ormus is BiS for raw damage.
But to make up for that loss of FCR you need to either give up an SoJ for a gg 10FCR ring or splurge for a 2/20 amulet. Both of which can be very expensive.
+3 Nova Ormus is BiS for raw damage.
But to make up for that loss of FCR you need to either give up an SoJ for a gg 10FCR ring or splurge for a 2/20 amulet. Both of which can be very expensive.
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My Nova Sorc has a Vipermagi, but if you can do with less FCR and no magic smage reduction, which is suoer helpful, and no all res and you want to go all damage, then a +3 Ormus with a good light damage row and a facet or a Guardian's Thunder is best, yes.
I am planning to build another Nova sorc,
Dragon armor/shield + Fire Mastery
Nova/ Static Field
Frozen Orb...
not sure if that will work...1p Key hunt
Dragon armor/shield + Fire Mastery
Nova/ Static Field
Frozen Orb...
not sure if that will work...1p Key hunt
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Have a look at this: https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo2/commen ... from_2184/
In the excel table you can see the main builds ordered by overall damage to immunes from left to right. This tells you about damage, not about survivability or quality of life. You can asses these by considering the author used BiS items to keep the 105 FCR though.
In the excel table you can see the main builds ordered by overall damage to immunes from left to right. This tells you about damage, not about survivability or quality of life. You can asses these by considering the author used BiS items to keep the 105 FCR though.
Youre one heart away from 3000... Come on! Someone heart the dude!Knappogue wrote: 2 hours agoJust like everything else with D2, "best" and "BiS" qualifiers depend on what your individual definition of those terms are. Speed? Survivability? Raw damage?
+3 Nova Ormus is BiS for raw damage.
But to make up for that loss of FCR you need to either give up an SoJ for a gg 10FCR ring or splurge for a 2/20 amulet. Both of which can be very expensive.
A perfect faceted Ormus Robes is about 10% more damage compared to a faceted Vipermagi, so it wins if you're after only damage.
That said, Vipermagi's MDR is very helpful for your Energy Shield, as well as the FCR and Resistances. For me? It's the best all rounder, and significantly cheaper too.
That said, Vipermagi's MDR is very helpful for your Energy Shield, as well as the FCR and Resistances. For me? It's the best all rounder, and significantly cheaper too.
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It was mentioned several times already but it's quite simple really.
Go with vipermagi, max resists, easy fcr, mdr.
When you have a 2/20 amulet and some allres small charms, feel free to do +3 Nova, 15% Ormus with +5/-5 jewel inside. Resists don't matter for Energy Shield purposes, only for the 5% of damage that goes through. Just max Lightning for soul packs and Poison ( Sandstorm Trek).
If you are running WSK, keep max health above max mana, so you don't get hit by blood magic curse.
Go with vipermagi, max resists, easy fcr, mdr.
When you have a 2/20 amulet and some allres small charms, feel free to do +3 Nova, 15% Ormus with +5/-5 jewel inside. Resists don't matter for Energy Shield purposes, only for the 5% of damage that goes through. Just max Lightning for soul packs and Poison ( Sandstorm Trek).
If you are running WSK, keep max health above max mana, so you don't get hit by blood magic curse.
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I dont understand logic here.Queegon wrote: 2 hours agofeel free to do +3 Nova, 15% Ormus with +5/-5 jewel inside. Resists don't matter for Energy Shield purposes, only for the 5% of damage that goes through.
facet +5/-5 res
do you mean -5 res not work?
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He means that the all res on Vipermagi is not very important for a Nova Sorc, since she only needs Poison Res. The -5 on the Facet is working, of course.leox wrote: 1 hour agoI dont understand logic here.Queegon wrote: 2 hours agofeel free to do +3 Nova, 15% Ormus with +5/-5 jewel inside. Resists don't matter for Energy Shield purposes, only for the 5% of damage that goes through.
facet +5/-5 res
do you mean -5 res not work?
Ormus is a trap.
+1 Skills from Vipermagi gives you +1 to Lightning Mastery (+12% LSD), offsetting the value of +LSD from Ormus.
You'll also need to compensate for the lower FCR with a 2/20 amulet, meaning the added damage from Ormus is now mitigated even further in lieu of a 3/10.
Lastly, the MDR provided by Vipermagi cannot be understated. It makes a big difference for your survivability because of how damage is calculated with Energy Shield. Ormus is slightly more sheet damage, but Vipermagi is a much better QoL.
+1 Skills from Vipermagi gives you +1 to Lightning Mastery (+12% LSD), offsetting the value of +LSD from Ormus.
You'll also need to compensate for the lower FCR with a 2/20 amulet, meaning the added damage from Ormus is now mitigated even further in lieu of a 3/10.
Lastly, the MDR provided by Vipermagi cannot be understated. It makes a big difference for your survivability because of how damage is calculated with Energy Shield. Ormus is slightly more sheet damage, but Vipermagi is a much better QoL.
09426725 wrote: 1 hour agoOrmus is a trap.
+1 Skills from Vipermagi gives you +1 to Lightning Mastery (+12% LSD), offsetting the value of +LSD from Ormus.
You'll also need to compensate for the lower FCR with a 2/20 amulet, meaning the added damage from Ormus is now mitigated even further in lieu of a 3/10.
Lastly, the MDR provided by Vipermagi cannot be understated. It makes a big difference for your survivability.
All true, but Ormus still wins the damage game easily. +1 to Light Mastery is less than the light damage on a well-rolled Ormus and +3 Nova is much more damage than the +1 you might have on a 3-10 amu (compared to a 2-20). I myself use Vipermagi because I like the mdr and I need the fcr because I have dropped 1 SoJ and Magefist for Frostburn and a good 10 FCR ring.
But Ormus definitely is the BIS damage armor, the damage advantage is substantial, not just "slightly more". ChoongZilla's 10% more seem realistic to me.
Each point into Lightning Mastery is +12% Lightning Skill Damage.mikelessar wrote: 1 hour agoAll true, but Ormus still wins the damage game easily. +1 to Light Mastery is much less than the light damage on Ormus and +3 Nova is much more damage than the +1 you might have on a 3-10 amu (compared to a 2-20). I myself use Vipermagi because I like the mdr and I need the fcr because I have dropped 1 SoJ and Magefist for Frostburn and a good 10 FCR ring.
But Ormus definitely is the BIS damage armor, the damage advantage is substantial, not just "slightly more". ChoongZilla's 10% more seem realistic to me.
+LSD is additive. Ormus is more damage, you're right, but the benefit is marginal at best.
Effectively, we are looking at the following:
Vipermagi + 3/10
+4 Nova (+4 Skills)
+48% LSD (+4 Skills)
Ormus + 2/20
+5 Nova (+3 Nova, +2 Skills)
+39% LSD (+15% LSD, +2 Skills)
In no way does this equate to +10% DPS. Realistically we are evaluating a 1% gain.
If you are using vipermagi, why would you even consider going for a 3/10? You are losing so much potential by using that you might as well go for Ormus + 2/20. Plus you are losing 2 skills from Frozen Armor and Warmth with 3/10 on top.09426725 wrote: 46 minutes agoIn no way does this equate to +10% DPS. Realistically we are evaluating a 1% gain.
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