Grand Charm Skillers

How do we search skillers in the database? It's not popping up.

Just type the full name and use an Affix list like https://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Charm_Affixes to find the desired specs.

Droid wrote: 3 weeks ago

Just type the full name and use an Affix list like https://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Charm_Affixes to find the desired specs.

Thanks for reply. I meant for example I wanted to trade my "Fungal Grand Charm", how do i search that in the database here to so i can put it up to sell. I tried typing the quotation in but it's not popping up. also tried "Grand Charm Fungal"

Ah i see, yeah for selling it you also Just type the full name and put as many options as are fitting in the special boxes:
Here for example I selected Item Type "Small Charm" and then what it's about but it's all input manually. And the title

Ist also just the full name of the item.

The item DB doesn't hold each possible combination of affixes, it merely includes actual 'specific' items. Along those same lines, this site doesn't include an actual affix database as there's plenty of other sites already covering that quite well.

You can still trade any magic/rare/crafted/... item however, simply by entering the correct information in your trade (or search, same Principle). In the case of rares/crafteds, that's via a descriptive title and selecting the correct flags. In the case of a magic charm like yours, it becomes a bit simpler as you merely enter the (exact) charm name to allow folks to easily find it:
The database won't pop up any specific item as your charm won't be part of the DB content but you can still list it and anyone searching for that charm name (which is dictated by the affixes) will find it.

(You should still enter a fitting description though, as with any other trade - especially if the charm includes any variable stats as well)


Edit: Seems droid beat me to it..pshh

Thanks guys, another question and how would I go about searching it if I am looking to buy it OR looking to see what it's worth?

I'd assume the prefixes for these skillers are the same and the suffix just changes the mods on it. IS there anyway to suggest adding these into diablo 2.

Io? I'd assume its only 7 toonsx3 skill trees= 21 items to add (regarding prefixed grand charms only).

I use title like this for Magic items

<full name> <affix description>

OBS: I use the affix description pattern used on https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/

Ex:
trade/burning-grand-charm-of-flame-1-fi ... 31601.html
trade/fletcher-s-grand-charm-of-sustena ... 33368.html
trade/mentalist-s-grand-charm-t1447799.html

OBS-1: While creating/editing the trade for Rare/magic items, it is important to explicitly select the the options on the tabs Rarity, Item Type and Stats (as the site cannot infer them by the name like it does with Unique, sets and Normal items)
OBS-2: Every time you change the title (even without submitting), you have to re-select the values on the tabs Rarity, Item Type, Stats, Class, Item Qualities (the old values, while visually selected, actually lost their value, you have unselect and re-select each value - it is a bug...), so it is best to have the "final title", before start to select values on the tabs

ImSoFlyRN wrote: 3 weeks ago

Thanks guys, another question and how would I go about searching it if I am looking to buy it OR looking to see what it's worth?

I'd assume the prefixes for these skillers are the same and the suffix just changes the mods on it. IS there anyway to suggest adding these into diablo 2.

Io? I'd assume its only 7 toonsx3 skill trees= 21 items to add (regarding prefixed grand charms only).

and about

ImSoFlyRN wrote: 3 weeks ago

... suffix just changes the mods on it.

The suffixes were actually what will make difference on the prices
Depending on the suffix, the price can goes up to many

Jah (while a skiller with no suffix will hardly sell for more than 1

Ist - for the most used ones)

i click on browse trades in the trade tab top of window, and in the 'add keywords' i type in the full / half name of the charm i wanted to search for and in the 'item type' grand charm and then ladder non ladder sc and so on.

Example: Sparking grand charm
or Sparking grand charm of vita in the add keywords.

then if there is any for trade i hope it list them when i click apply filters

Illusions wrote: 3 weeks ago

i click on browse trades in the trade tab top of window, and in the 'add keywords' i type in the full / half name of the charm i wanted to search for and in the 'item type' grand charm and then ladder non ladder sc and so on.

Example: Sparking grand charm
or Sparking grand charm of vita in the add keywords.

then if there is any for trade i hope it list them when i click apply filters

This is the answer i am looking for. Huge kudos. Thanks!

fredkid wrote: 3 weeks ago

and about

ImSoFlyRN wrote: 3 weeks ago

... suffix just changes the mods on it.

The suffixes were actually what will make difference on the prices
Depending on the suffix, the price can goes up to many

Jah (while a skiller with no suffix will hardly sell for more than 1

Ist - for the most used ones)

Oh absolutely. I get it. There's just no easy way to see trade history. Maybe put together a guide? Thanks for info

Magic and Rare are hard to search on "Price Check" and even "Search Trade"
(people create trades' title/description using many different patterns and sometimes just put an image and no relevant info on title or description )

You can ask a price suggestion:
price-check/
"Request a Price"

Or try to search just part of the name.
Ex: if you want a "Emerald Small Charm of Good Luck"
you may try to search things like
"Emerald Small Charm of Good Luck"
"Emerald Small Charm"
"Small Charm of Good Luck"
"Small Charm mf"
"pr Small Charm"
"Small Charm magic"
"poison Small Charm"
or even just
"Small Charm"

ImSoFlyRN wrote: 3 weeks ago

Thanks guys, another question and how would I go about searching it if I am looking to buy it OR looking to see what it's worth?
[..]

As noted in the earlier post, just use the full name. Done.

Trade: Gets you:
search.php?keywords=Fungal+Grand+Charm& ... mit=Search

Add extra flags and/or suffix to the name and whatnot as needed and applicable, if you wanted to limit results further.



Similarly, for price checking: And you get to:
pricecheck.php?item=Fungal%20Grand%20Charm&other=1

Equally, add suffix/subsequently add flags to further limit results.

ImSoFlyRN wrote: 3 weeks ago

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I'd assume the prefixes for these skillers are the same and the suffix just changes the mods on it. IS there anyway to suggest adding these into diablo 2.

Io? I'd assume its only 7 toonsx3 skill trees= 21 items to add (regarding prefixed grand charms only).

You can suggest it via the feedback forum and it has actually been suggested before. But realistically, I doubt you'll see it added.
Teebs has stated previously that he'd prefer to not put in significant effort solely to replicate something that plenty of existing sites already do very well which is basically what this would be.

Merely adding a few base skillers could probably be done quite easily, sure, but it'd also offer comparatively little benefit as you're solely looking at plain base skillers which people very quickly outgear and which hold comparatively little value. So it'd merely open the floodgates to "add this one, add that one, and that combination, too!" and quickly turn into a full-scale affix database.
(Which would be nice to have here, sure, but see above as to the redundancy to other sites)

Schnorki wrote: 3 weeks ago

ImSoFlyRN wrote: 3 weeks ago

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I'd assume the prefixes for these skillers are the same and the suffix just changes the mods on it. IS there anyway to suggest adding these into diablo 2.

Io? I'd assume its only 7 toonsx3 skill trees= 21 items to add (regarding prefixed grand charms only).

You can suggest it via the feedback forum and it has actually been suggested before. But realistically, I doubt you'll see it added.
Teebs has stated previously that he'd prefer to not put in significant effort solely to replicate something that plenty of existing sites already do very well which is basically what this would be.

Merely adding a few base skillers could probably be done quite easily, sure, but it'd also offer comparatively little benefit as you're solely looking at plain base skillers which people very quickly outgear and which hold comparatively little value. So it'd merely open the floodgates to "add this one, add that one, and that combination, too!" and quickly turn into a full-scale affix database.
(Which would be nice to have here, sure, but see above as to the redundancy to other sites)

Thanks for the reply. This is my first and practically only site I use for trading, albeit I'm practically new. This site is gorgeous and well planned/built. The community is active and helpful. While I understand your argument for redundancy, In my humble opinion, pushing people to other sites sounds terrible. I would imagine the effort to add it to database takes little time. Look at all the other items that are not getting traffic such as "

Witherstring" and a ton of other low level uniques that have comparatively little value. I don't mind at all that teebs/the owner of this site/ the moderators/ or whoever runs this site does not decide to do it. I would just like to state in my opinion it is rather inconvenient to go through multiple steps.

Just wanted to state my opinion. I do not mean to flame/insult anyone. Just speaking my mind.

ImSoFlyRN wrote: 3 weeks ago

Schnorki wrote: 3 weeks ago

ImSoFlyRN wrote: 3 weeks ago

[..]
I'd assume the prefixes for these skillers are the same and the suffix just changes the mods on it. IS there anyway to suggest adding these into diablo 2.

Io? I'd assume its only 7 toonsx3 skill trees= 21 items to add (regarding prefixed grand charms only).

You can suggest it via the feedback forum and it has actually been suggested before. But realistically, I doubt you'll see it added.
Teebs has stated previously that he'd prefer to not put in significant effort solely to replicate something that plenty of existing sites already do very well which is basically what this would be.

Merely adding a few base skillers could probably be done quite easily, sure, but it'd also offer comparatively little benefit as you're solely looking at plain base skillers which people very quickly outgear and which hold comparatively little value. So it'd merely open the floodgates to "add this one, add that one, and that combination, too!" and quickly turn into a full-scale affix database.
(Which would be nice to have here, sure, but see above as to the redundancy to other sites)

Thanks for the reply. This is my first and practically only site I use for trading, albeit I'm practically new. This site is gorgeous and well planned/built. The community is active and helpful. While I understand your argument for redundancy, In my humble opinion, pushing people to other sites sounds terrible. I would imagine the effort to add it to database takes little time. Look at all the other items that are not getting traffic such as "

Witherstring" and a ton of other low level uniques that have comparatively little value. I don't mind at all that teebs/the owner of this site/ the moderators/ or whoever runs this site does not decide to do it. I would just like to state in my opinion it is rather inconvenient to go through multiple steps.

Just wanted to state my opinion. I do not mean to flame/insult anyone. Just speaking my mind.

I may or may not have been the one/one of the folks who previously suggested adding it here actually. So I definitely get your point. Coincidentally, that's also how I know why Teebs isn't doing it/hasn't done it yet. Or at least in part that'd be why.

The coding would take a bit more effort as you couldn't just treat a list of affixes the same as current items and "dump them in there", seeing how they'd need to be individually combineable to create an actual item combination in the end. Certainly not an impossible task by any means but also not as easy as simply adding an affix list to the DB (at least not to make it work fully for trades/searches/...). The

Witherstring on the other hand is merely an extra item fed into an existing item DB framework, behaving the same as everything else.

Possibly/probably more involved than the actual coding though, or at least a significant extra task, is that you'd to go out and actually create a base list of all affixes as well as (to do it right) their mutual exclusivity, possible combinations, valid items, variable ranges, level reqs and all that jazz. Nothing that can't be obtained as sources do exist but still a good bit of grunt work to prep correctly.

Do keep in mind that this site - solid as it is - isn't Teeb's actual job so he does have to limit and prioritize what can and will be done here. If I had to guess, that's probably a large part of the reasoning for the "if someone's got it covered well on another site, don't create a redundant version here" argument.

But yeah, I for one would love to see it, too. Affixes and mechanic deep dives are really the only D2 things still drawing me away from this site every now and then.