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I know that item-cast auras from Insight and Cure synergize with
Prayer
, which is a common merc setup

But what about
Resist Fire
and
Holy Fire
? People like to run Flickering Flame on dragondin and self-cast
Holy Fire
builds, but I'm not aware of a damage synergy between the auras in this situation

Presumably this doesn't this work? I searched, I but haven't been able to find an answer or detailed game mechanic explanation
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marl71 126

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I know that item-cast auras from Insight and Cure synergize with
Prayer
, which is a common merc setup

But what about
Resist Fire
and
Holy Fire
? People like to run Flickering Flame on dragondin and self-cast
Holy Fire
builds, but I'm not aware of a damage synergy between the auras in this situation

Presumably this doesn't this work? I searched, I but haven't been able to find an answer or detailed game mechanic explanation
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Schnorki 3768Moderator

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Unless you're talking about summon druids as the one exception to the rule (well, and shadows, kind of), synergies only grant a bonus via the hard points you have invested. Points from gear (regardless of that being aura lvls or direct +skill) do not add anything.

The
Prayer
example works because the merc actually has
Prayer
as a hard skill, resulting in said
Prayer
granting a synergy bonus to the item-based
Meditation
and
Cleansing
.

The
Holy Fire
example however wouldn't work because flickering would only grant item-based points in
Resist Fire
which doesn't add any synergy bonus. Hard points in
Resist Fire
will give a pally a synergy bonus to item-based
Holy Fire
auras but again that's only for the hard points you actually have invested in
Resist Fire
. The reason some folks run flickering on HFdins regardless is the -res on it and the aura countering the res lost due to the fire sunder.
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I prefered FF over CoA because all your party members gain the hard skill bonus of +20% maxresist. This and because CoA makes you look like a dxxx. :D

One Dragondin with maxed
Resist Fire
and Flickering Flame will render the whole party almost immune to fire! All summons gain immunity due to the fact they count as monsters and therefore don't have a resistance cap. This is so incredibly useful in the hardest areas compared to a higher damage CoA gives you. You can laugh at the High Council, Diablo, DClone, Ubers,
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, WST and so on.

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Schnorki wrote: 3 weeks ago
Unless you're talking about summon druids as the one exception to the rule (well, and shadows, kind of)
Do you know, or have any theories, as to why the summon druids are the one exception to the rule? Do you think this was an oversight or an intentional act by the devs?

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Schnorki wrote: 3 weeks ago
The
Prayer
example works because the merc actually has
Prayer
as a hard skill, resulting in said
Prayer
granting a synergy bonus to the item-based
Meditation
and
Cleansing
.
Don't Insight and Cure boost the healing from
Prayer
?

Oh, I see--
Cleansing
and
Meditation
also heal you with hard points into
Prayer
. I didn't know that--ok, makes sense now
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Schnorki 3768Moderator

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Knappogue wrote: 3 weeks ago
Schnorki wrote: 3 weeks ago
Unless you're talking about summon druids as the one exception to the rule (well, and shadows, kind of)
Do you know, or have any theories, as to why the summon druids are the one exception to the rule? Do you think this was an oversight or an intentional act by the devs?
Intentional.

Back in the day, when LoD was released, they wanted to add some fancy little quirks/perks to the newly introduced classes, beyond just the itemization. That's why druids get to syn-buff summons beyond hard points and why assassins get to open chests without keys.
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Schnorki 3768Moderator

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marl71 wrote: 3 weeks ago
Schnorki wrote: 3 weeks ago
The
Prayer
example works because the merc actually has
Prayer
as a hard skill, resulting in said
Prayer
granting a synergy bonus to the item-based
Meditation
and
Cleansing
.
Don't Insight and Cure boost the healing from
Prayer
?

Oh, I see--
Cleansing
and
Meditation
also heal you with hard points into
Prayer
. I didn't know that--ok, makes sense now
Aye,
Cleansing
and
Meditation
each get the
Prayer
heal added to their ticks. The merc's
Prayer
itself however stays the same and isn't buffed in any way.
As a result, you get 3x the healing (same old 1x from
Prayer
and then 1x the same value each from the
Meditation
and
Cleansing
).
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Schnorki wrote: 3 weeks ago
Back in the day, when LoD was released, they wanted to add some fancy little quirks/perks to the newly introduced classes, beyond just the itemization. That's why druids get to syn-buff summons beyond hard points and why assassins get to open chests without keys.
So short answer is 'marketing'...haahaa I like it!

Temporarily not accepting
Thul
and
Ort
runes.

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marl71 wrote: 3 weeks ago
I know that item-cast auras from Insight and Cure synergize with
Prayer
, which is a common merc setup

But what about
Resist Fire
and
Holy Fire
? People like to run Flickering Flame on dragondin and self-cast
Holy Fire
builds, but I'm not aware of a damage synergy between the auras in this situation

Presumably this doesn't this work? I searched, I but haven't been able to find an answer or detailed game mechanic explanation
As others have stated, the
Resist Fire
aura from Flickering Flame will not increase
Holy Fire
damage. However, the aura is a powerful layer of protection that can easily compensate for
Flame Rift
's penalty. Furthermore, Flickering Flame's -10-15% to Enemy Fire Resistance will increase
Holy Fire
's damage output pretty significantly. As another commenter alluded to, a
Crown of Ages
with two Rainbow Facets would also be an excellent contender in the helm slot, but Flickering Flame is much cheaper and has the aforementioned benefits re: Fire Resistance.

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marl71 126

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Thanks everyone. I was confused about
Cleansing
and
Meditation
mechanics. I understand why people run Flickering Flame on a dragondin, although I personally consider it at best a temp item until you get CoA
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Crown of Ages
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Rainbow Facet: Fire Death
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marl71 wrote: 3 weeks ago
Thanks everyone. I was confused about
Cleansing
and
Meditation
mechanics. I understand why people run Flickering Flame on a dragondin, although I personally consider it at best a temp item until you get CoA

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marl71 126

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Yes, that’s what I mean
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