Quick question about summons

Hey all, just a quick one:

Does crushing blow work with necromancer or druid summons?
What about

Bone Break?

Thanks!

Your Crushing bow / Deadly strike / Open Wounds do not work for your Merc or your Minions

Resistance

Pierce (or sunder resistances) I'm not sure...

OBS:
- Traps are affected by your resistance

Pierce (or sunder resistances) since recent patches
- You may use

Revive on some monster that have Crushing Blow (like Urdar - https://www.purediablo.com/d2wiki/Urdar / monsters/blunderbore-t4235.html ) and they will keep their natural Crushing Blow

(edited)

And i'm carrying this

Bone Break for nothing? Damnnnnnn

Thanks man!

luizgeo wrote: 8 months ago

And i'm carrying this

Bone Break for nothing? Damnnnnnn

Thanks man!

It will work for your

Corpse Explosion /

Twister /

Tornado

luizgeo

About sunder charms, I found some links that say that it DO work for minions , so I'm not sure
https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/summoner-necromancer-guide
https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo2resurre ... ke_necros/

(Crushing bow / Deadly strike / Open Wounds i'm sure that do not work )

fredkid wrote: 8 months ago

luizgeo

About sunder charms, I found some links that say that it DO work for minions , so I'm not sure
https://maxroll.gg/d2/guides/summoner-necromancer-guide
https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo2resurre ... ke_necros/

(Crushing bow / Deadly strike / Open Wounds i'm sure that do not work )

This maxroll.gg guide is just the one that made me wonder about the crushing blow and the sunder charm.

It says something about using

Bone Break in order to buff

Amplify Damage on physical immunes.

I made a test
and considering my test, sunder works for Minions, but... your have to have the sunder in you inventory when you summon them (it is snapshotted)

I found a Specter on Hell

Arcane Sanctuary, hit him with a Prevent Monster Heal weapon, and let only my Bear fight it.
The Bear that I summon without

Bone Break could not damage the Specter (even when I put

Bone Break again on my inventory)
The Bear that I summon with

Bone Break could damage the Specter (even when I removed

Bone Break from my inventory)

But damage is pretty low without the help of

Amplify Damage or

Decrepify (in fact, I needed to use a Prevent Monster Heal to confirm that the Bear was actually doing damage....)

not related to the post, but got pretty luck during my test above and dropped a perfect Shimmering Grand Charm
(not for sale )

i think amp damage works at 100% on sundered phy immunes, even for minions....

do a test!

fredkid wrote: 8 months ago

I made a test
and considering my test, sunder works for Minions, but... your have to have the sunder in you inventory when you summon them (it is snapshotted)

I found a Specter on Hell

Arcane Sanctuary, hit him with a Prevent Monster Heal weapon, and let only my Bear fight it.
The Bear that I summon without

Bone Break could not damage the Specter (even when I put

Bone Break again on my inventory)
The Bear that I summon with

Bone Break could damage the Specter (even when I removed

Bone Break from my inventory)

But damage is pretty low without the help of

Amplify Damage or

Decrepify (in fact, I needed to use a Prevent Monster Heal to confirm that the Bear was actually doing damage....)

Hummm got it! Just keep it on the inventory all time then, and forget about it. Does the increased physical damage percentage also penalizes summons as well?

luizgeo wrote: 8 months ago

Does the increased physical damage percentage also penalizes summons as well?

I would guess that the penalty only affects you
(but this is way harder to make a test )

krathkor wrote: 8 months ago

i think amp damage works at 100% on sundered phy immunes, even for minions....

do a test!

Amplify Damage,

Decrepify and resistance

Pierce on equipment works normal (full value) against sundered monsters
(and

Amplify Damage,

Decrepify works at full value to break immunity. Resistance

Pierce on equipment cannot break immunity)

Just

Lower Resist,

Conviction and

Cold Mastery have the 80% penalty (1/5 value) against sundered monsters
(and

Lower Resist,

Conviction have the same penalty to break immunity.

Cold Mastery cannot break immunity)

(there are other threads in the forum that already discussed it )

luizgeo wrote: 8 months ago

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Does crushing blow work with necromancer or druid summons?
[..]

Your own attack stats only work for yourself so minions will not benefit from any crushing, deadly or whatever you may have on yourself. CB on the base for an

Iron Golem should work though as does crushing blow on your merc's gear for him.

Since your other minions can't actively equip anything, they won't get CB unless they inherently bring their own (e.g. urdar revives on your nec).

luizgeo wrote: 8 months ago

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What about

Bone Break?
[..]

Sunders work for minions but not for mercs. So a

Bone Break will allow your direct summons to damage phys immunes (albeit rather low dmg if you don't also add amp, decrep or the like) but your merc will remain SoL and won't benefit from your

Bone Break.