why does uber meph delete Valkyrie so fast? he waves his boney hand and she's gone
tried it with ~lvl 50, so ~ 100 res points at least. -25 res after Conviction worst case
i understand old ubers' attacks are somewhat reasonable, under 1k? then 2x factor on boss vs minion, so he would deal 2.5k dmg max? and valk has 7k+ life after cta, so should last at least a few seconds..
why does uber meph delete Valkyrie so fast? he waves his boney hand and she's gone
tried it with ~lvl 50, so ~ 100 res points at least. -25 res after Conviction worst case
i understand old ubers' attacks are somewhat reasonable, under 1k? then 2x factor on boss vs minion, so he would deal 2.5k dmg max? and valk has 7k+ life after cta, so should last at least a few seconds..
or what am I missing?
I think it might be 2x to mercs, and 4x damage to minions/summons.
why does uber meph delete Valkyrie so fast? he waves his boney hand and she's gone
tried it with ~lvl 50, so ~ 100 res points at least. -25 res after Conviction worst case
i understand old ubers' attacks are somewhat reasonable, under 1k? then 2x factor on boss vs minion, so he would deal 2.5k dmg max? and valk has 7k+ life after cta, so should last at least a few seconds..
or what am I missing?
It's 4x vs summons.
I would also guess that it's not a melee attack but his charged Bolts. That's 21 times ~500 damage. Only 4 have of those 21 have to hit to OTS your valk.
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thx.. but what about uber ancients, heralds and dclone then? 4x doesn't apply to them / mitigated by res?
1) uber ancients, she normally takes a few hits, and sometimes even survives the fight
2) heralds, she survives 99% of the time, elemental dmg she ignores even if they have Conviction
3) dclone, she normally survives without a scratch
why does uber meph delete Valkyrie so fast? he waves his boney hand and she's gone
tried it with ~lvl 50, so ~ 100 res points at least. -25 res after Conviction worst case
i understand old ubers' attacks are somewhat reasonable, under 1k? then 2x factor on boss vs minion, so he would deal 2.5k dmg max? and valk has 7k+ life after cta, so should last at least a few seconds..
or what am I missing?
It's 4x vs summons.
I would also guess that it's not a melee attack but his charged Bolts. That's 21 times ~500 damage. Only 4 have of those 21 have to hit to OTS your valk.
thx.. but what about uber ancients, heralds and dclone then? 4x doesn't apply to them / mitigated by res?
1) uber ancients, she normally takes a few hits, and sometimes even survives the fight
2) heralds, she survives 99% of the time, elemental dmg she ignores even if they have Conviction
3) dclone, she normally survives without a scratch
why does uber meph delete Valkyrie so fast? he waves his boney hand and she's gone
tried it with ~lvl 50, so ~ 100 res points at least. -25 res after Conviction worst case
i understand old ubers' attacks are somewhat reasonable, under 1k? then 2x factor on boss vs minion, so he would deal 2.5k dmg max? and valk has 7k+ life after cta, so should last at least a few seconds..
or what am I missing?
It's 4x vs summons.
I would also guess that it's not a melee attack but his charged Bolts. That's 21 times ~500 damage. Only 4 have of those 21 have to hit to OTS your valk.
It's the lvl 21 Conviction aura combined with the very strong charged Bolts.
4x applies also for other bosses.
Keep in mind that your Valk also evades. So while the average damage decreases, she can get unlucky and instantly die when 21 Bolts come for her at once.
Playing HC SSF right now.
Hell completed: Sorc, Druid, Paladin, Ama, Assa, Necro, Barb
Iron Man (Paladin): Nightmare A1
thx.. but what about uber ancients, heralds and dclone then? 4x doesn't apply to them / mitigated by res?
1) uber ancients, she normally takes a few hits, and sometimes even survives the fight
2) heralds, she survives 99% of the time, elemental dmg she ignores even if they have Conviction
3) dclone, she normally survives without a scratch
I would also guess that it's not a melee attack but his charged Bolts. That's 21 times ~500 damage. Only 4 have of those 21 have to hit to OTS your valk.
It's the lvl 21 Conviction aura combined with the very strong charged Bolts.
4x applies also for other bosses.
Keep in mind that your Valk also evades. So while the average damage decreases, she can get unlucky and instantly die when 21 Bolts come for her at once.
thx.. but what about uber ancients, heralds and dclone then? 4x doesn't apply to them / mitigated by res?
1) uber ancients, she normally takes a few hits, and sometimes even survives the fight
2) heralds, she survives 99% of the time, elemental dmg she ignores even if they have Conviction
3) dclone, she normally survives without a scratch
It's the lvl 21 Conviction aura combined with the very strong charged Bolts.
4x applies also for other bosses.
Keep in mind that your Valk also evades. So while the average damage decreases, she can get unlucky and instantly die when 21 Bolts come for her at once.
The original "hierarchy" was boss > super unique> champion.
Only bosses had the damage multiplier vs. mercs (2x) and summons (4x).
I don't know how heralds are categorized but I assume they are a special form of champion.
You could take a look at the data files to see if they have a damage multiplier entry. I assume there is none, hence no extra damage which would be in line with your observation.
I can imagine that the current devs at Blizzard didn't know about this multiplier when implementing heralds. Of course, it could also have been a conscious decision.
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After calculating the attack's damage using the attacker's modifiers, when applying defender's modifiers, Unit Modifier is the first thing that is considered (before any res, absorb, damage reduction, etc).
This unit modifier applies to all six damage types from any source (including Static Field), but it does not apply to cold or freeze length, poison length, Crushing Blow or Open Wounds. However, it also applies to the percentage Life Stolen per hit and Mana Stolen per hit, rounded down: thus a player attacking another player cannot leech with < 6% (5*0.17 < 1), while a mercenary attacking an Evil in Hell cannot do so with < 4% (3*0.25 < 1).
Anything not in the list (like normal monsters, including champions, uniques, super uniques and heralds) have a 100% Unit Modifier. I.e., neither an increase nor decrease in damage vs either the player, pets or mercs. Order of defensive modifiers
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