Mother of dragons

Another theorycrafted sorc build. Maybe someone tried it out or wants to try it out?

Fire Bolt 20
fire ball 20
Warmth 20
Enchant 20
Fire Mastery 20
Frozen Armor 0-1
Teleport 1
Telekinesis 8-9

Flickering Flame
Dragon armor
Dragon Shield
Hand of Justice ( Phase Blade)
double horazon's
Mara's Kaleidoscope
Arachnid Mesh
2 soj or 2 double leech rings

Holy Fire aura will autokill most content. and enchanted/aura buffed rapid melee attack will annihilate bosses.
life/mana leech will sustain both life and Energy Shield (prebuffed with gear).. or maybe just keep double soj for more mana, Warmth and Fire Mastery?

and the best part: procced hydras will add ~1k dmg per hit. count doesn't seem to be capped at 6, so there will be a lot of hits

compared to dragondin, advantages are synergized hydras, much more melee dmg, rapid Teleport speed, and the Energy Shield. disadvantages are ~33% lower aura dmg output and Conviction

merc either Infinity emilio or Faith rogue or double Plague barb

thoughts?

If you want to make this i have a Dragon Monarch

The Fire Mastery is not as strong as the Paladin synergies, so she will do less damage than a Dragondin.
Your melee hits will also be much slower and weaker than the Paladin's Zeal. Do you also intend on casting Fireball? Then there is no leech, of course.
An ES that is only pre-cast and has no skill point investment will only drain your mana very quickly, but it will hardly protect you.

But, I mean, just try it!

Lakkxa wrote: 5 days ago

Allready had enough of the Dragondin?
I think the lightning variety is much stronger. Holy Shock deals similiar damage at level 30 as Holy Fire at 44 without synergies and even more important Lightning Mastery has about 1.7 times the damage bonus of Fire Mastery. Additionally you are stuck at 10 FPA, with lightning you can use Passion and get to 7 FPA or use Crescent Moon for the same 10 FPA but -25 lightres and Static Field procs to help with the AOE.
I doubt the Hydras can compensate for that, but never tried it.

true about the attack speed, but imo fire sorc will hit much harder thanks to both Enchant and Holy Fire bonuses.. i reckon 25k dmg per hit at 10 fps + hydras 10k+ dps, should be in the Charged Strike league? and -45 fire res

mikelessar wrote: 5 days ago

The Fire Mastery is not as strong as the Paladin synergies, so she will do less damage than a Dragondin.
Your melee hits will also be much slower and weaker than the Paladin's Zeal. Do you also intend on casting Fireball? Then there is no leech, of course.
An ES that is only pre-cast and has no skill point investment will only drain your mana very quickly, but it will hardly protect you.

But, I mean, just try it!

not bored by pally, inspired by him!

yep sorc is ~33% weaker on the aura effect than paladin, but still enough on p1

and enchanted single target dmg is much stronger

i plan investing 8-9 points into tk, so Energy Shield will provide 1-2 k of free rapidly regenerating extra life at 0 res, drain factor 1.5.. could make sense

but you are right about trying ofc

@Lemzodistber

what would you want for the Dragon?

Tornado_OLO wrote: 5 days ago

Try Beast to use Werebear with its massive melee attack speed.

there is no need for Beast whatsoever. max attack speed is already reached. and Hand of Justice is indespensible for the build, accounting for ~40% of aoe dmg, a substantial portion of melee dmg, and almost half of the enemy fire resistance reduction

vued wrote: 4 days ago

ganseng wrote: 5 days ago

Lakkxa wrote: 5 days ago

Allready had enough of the Dragondin?
I think the lightning variety is much stronger. Holy Shock deals similiar damage at level 30 as Holy Fire at 44 without synergies and even more important Lightning Mastery has about 1.7 times the damage bonus of Fire Mastery. Additionally you are stuck at 10 FPA, with lightning you can use Passion and get to 7 FPA or use Crescent Moon for the same 10 FPA but -25 lightres and Static Field procs to help with the AOE.
I doubt the Hydras can compensate for that, but never tried it.

true about the attack speed, but imo fire sorc will hit much harder thanks to both Enchant and Holy Fire bonuses.. i reckon 25k dmg per hit at 10 fps + hydras 10k+ dps, should be in the Charged Strike league? and -45 fire res

Whatever you do, you will have a meme build.
Compared to FB, you will deal less damage, with less -efr, and deal single target melee hits instead of ranged AOE.

You are loosing on all fronts damage wise. But it might still be fun, so go for it.

i think it will be more single target dmg than pure FB

FB 21k dmg / 8 fps = 66k dps @ -35 res
Enchant + Holy Fire ~27k+ dmg / 10 fps = 68k dps @ -45 res + hydras ~10k+ dps

My current FB+ Hydra has more dps ofc, but it lacks the survivability to face ubers. I'm trying to craft something that will both clear mobs with the aura pulses and stand up to ubers

Hand of Justice is indispensable as mentioned earlier

still need the Dragon Spirit to test..

Whatever you do, don’t make Dragon in a Monarch (it seemed like you were considering it) - it’s just a waste of strength. The primary reason people like Monarch for non-paladins is because it’s the lowest strength option out of all 4os bases (there’s only 3; Monarch, Ward and Aegis), but Dragon only needs 3 sockets so using a Monarch is a huge waste of points into strength for no real benefit. There’s plenty of 3os shield bases with far lower str req than Monarch (if you want a light one then maybe Troll Nest or Dragon Shield).

ShadowHeart wrote: 4 days ago

Whatever you do, don’t make Dragon in a Monarch (it seemed like you were considering it) - it’s just a waste of strength. The primary reason people like Monarch for non-paladins is because it’s the lowest strength option out of all 4os bases (there’s only 3; Monarch, Ward and Aegis), but Dragon only needs 3 sockets so using a Monarch is a huge waste of points into strength for no real benefit. There’s plenty of 3os shield bases with far lower str req than Monarch (if you want a light one then maybe Troll Nest or Dragon Shield).

I know - I'd prly go for Hyperion for the looks

It' just @Lemzodistber mentioned he has one, that's why I said Monarch

and to correct my previous post, taking hit chance and resistances into account, the triple Holy Fire would prly lose to properly optimized Fireball / Fireball + Hydra for uber hunting. but the difference should be small, so it's nice to have an unconventional build that's almost as stong as the strongest s-builds

ganseng wrote: 4 days ago

ShadowHeart wrote: 4 days ago

Whatever you do, don’t make Dragon in a Monarch (it seemed like you were considering it) - it’s just a waste of strength. The primary reason people like Monarch for non-paladins is because it’s the lowest strength option out of all 4os bases (there’s only 3; Monarch, Ward and Aegis), but Dragon only needs 3 sockets so using a Monarch is a huge waste of points into strength for no real benefit. There’s plenty of 3os shield bases with far lower str req than Monarch (if you want a light one then maybe Troll Nest or Dragon Shield).

I know - I'd prly go for Hyperion for the looks

It' just @Lemzodistber mentioned he has one, that's why I said Monarch

and to correct my previous post, taking hit chance and resistances into account, the triple Holy Fire would prly lose to properly optimized Fireball / Fireball + Hydra for uber hunting. but the difference should be small, so it's nice to have an unconventional build that's almost as stong as the strongest s-builds

Sorry, I must have traded it. I cant find it right now.

Also your build is very similar to my enchantress build. If you have Demon Machine on off hand swap and swap arachnid for Razortail you could easily run that too.

thx for the feedback, will look for another solution

i'd like to reiterate though that this build is not an enchantress, as it invests heavily into Hydra synergies to boost boss killing dmg output by 10-15% (hence the name mother of dragons:))

and that at the expense of Energy Shield synergy

i guess if it can work at all, then only at a very high lvl char, so I 'm planning to test it on my main lvl 99 sorc as soon as i get the shield

Lemzodistber wrote: 4 days ago

ganseng wrote: 4 days ago

ShadowHeart wrote: 4 days ago

Whatever you do, don’t make Dragon in a Monarch (it seemed like you were considering it) - it’s just a waste of strength. The primary reason people like Monarch for non-paladins is because it’s the lowest strength option out of all 4os bases (there’s only 3; Monarch, Ward and Aegis), but Dragon only needs 3 sockets so using a Monarch is a huge waste of points into strength for no real benefit. There’s plenty of 3os shield bases with far lower str req than Monarch (if you want a light one then maybe Troll Nest or Dragon Shield).

I know - I'd prly go for Hyperion for the looks

It' just @Lemzodistber mentioned he has one, that's why I said Monarch

and to correct my previous post, taking hit chance and resistances into account, the triple Holy Fire would prly lose to properly optimized Fireball / Fireball + Hydra for uber hunting. but the difference should be small, so it's nice to have an unconventional build that's almost as stong as the strongest s-builds

Sorry, I must have traded it. I cant find it right now.

Also your build is very similar to my enchantress build. If you have Demon Machine on off hand swap and swap arachnid for Razortail you could easily run that too.

to be honest I find pally underwhelming against heralds - very squishy, dps below Charged Strike/ Fireball+ Hydra/ Strafe

correct me if I 'm wrong but he does 5 hits over 11 frames

sorc would do one over 10 frames. even if 4x stronger, it would be less dps, also taking Conviction into consideration. hydras would add 6-9k dps maybe, also not much

sorc would be ~40 p.p. below pally on all res except for fire.. fire would be somewhat better

Energy Shield would add maybe 1k life in equivalent

so.. not sure I want to spend Lo & Sur to test?

thx for clarifying the attack speed. well it's not that hopeless then, still can reach ~2x more dmg, before resistance is taken into account

and still, when Herald spawns on my pally, he thinks, who is screwed, the golem, the golem and the merc, or all three of us
and when it spawns on my enchantress, she's like, klaudia you got this or shall i fire a couple Bolts?

Lakkxa wrote: 3 hours ago

ganseng wrote: 5 hours ago

to be honest I find pally underwhelming against heralds - very squishy, dps below Charged Strike/ Fireball+ Hydra/ Strafe

correct me if I 'm wrong but he does 5 hits over 11 frames

sorc would do one over 10 frames. even if 4x stronger, it would be less dps, also taking Conviction into consideration. hydras would add 6-9k dps maybe, also not much

sorc would be ~40 p.p. below pally on all res except for fire.. fire would be somewhat better

Energy Shield would add maybe 1k life in equivalent

so.. not sure I want to spend Lo & Sur to test?

A Zeal series should take 24 frames -> 4,4,4,4,8, about double the speed of the non-bear sorc. Bear sorc can get to 7 FPA, but it needs an alive Faith merc and 42 to 47 IAS beside the Weapon. So definately no Conviction at all.

CB would probably help your dragondin versus heralds. Blood Gloves (10CB+20IAS) +Highlord´s + Gore Rider\ Goblin Toe, but this kills your golem friend and makes the res situation worse. Or you could put IAS in the CoA and keep the Metallgrid. Also need a Ravenfrost then.

even if the bear made sense somehow (which I doubt considering the -20 fire res on Hand of Justice), I would certainly mess up the weapon switching..

vued wrote: 4 hours ago

ganseng wrote: 5 hours ago

to be honest I find pally underwhelming against heralds - very squishy, dps below Charged Strike/ Fireball+ Hydra/ Strafe

correct me if I 'm wrong but he does 5 hits over 11 frames

sorc would do one over 10 frames. even if 4x stronger, it would be less dps, also taking Conviction into consideration. hydras would add 6-9k dps maybe, also not much

sorc would be ~40 p.p. below pally on all res except for fire.. fire would be somewhat better

Energy Shield would add maybe 1k life in equivalent

so.. not sure I want to spend Lo & Sur to test?

If you melee as sorc, you turn into a bear and hit at 7 frames.