Teleport just ruins PvM in Hell

JARY wrote: 4 days ago

Quick, someone needs give one of those Shakespearean soliloquies at the end.. where a character dies and they give the lessons learned speech and the play ends...

Sometimes different people can view the same thing differently and that's okay, because sometimes the answer is relative, and that makes it subjective. When context, and personal preference dictates the outcome, then there is rarely a single "correct" answer. It only becomes an issue when someone decides their answer is the one right answer and makes it personal. So no need to fall on your sword just yet, because your view is no more wrong than those of others are right.

I like

Teleport. I don't think it breaks the game. I play how i like and how I have fun in this game I like, which like many others, is to sometimes play through and full clear the old fashioned way, and sometimes rush through a bit.

Go for a walk outside once in a while. Life is too short to be complaining about the AWP

Teleport.

See everyone again for the next inevitable

Teleport sucks thread?

I know @JARY has already noped out of this thread. But I'm catching up still.

JARY wrote: 4 days ago

Some of my better early memories were the first few years of the game as a teen... in old D2 when it was like 600x400 resolution, I was really young, but I remember we'd be sitting in town for like 5 min then someone would finally be like "uhh.. is someone getting Leg" Then after minutes of chat a barb or someone would finally run to Trist and grab leg, then full party of Amzons, Sorc, Fury Druids, etc. would go group up and rip apart cows in 1.08-1.09, and it continued for a while in 1.10 with synergies till several years later... everyone just did

Baal runs for the next 2 decades and that was the end of all originality in the game.

I remember that too... but... are you saying that old cow runs over and over with people waiting for someone to get Wirts Leg were originality? Honestly how is this much different from

Baal runs? I'm genuinely not following here.

People waiting in town for

Wirt's Leg / portal to throne. Everyone dives in to the same place, run is over in a few seconds, rinse, repeat. One of those is originality? I'm just... not following. It seems like you really don't like

Baal runs, which is fine. And that you're mad at

Teleport about that for some reason... which is confusing.

JARY wrote: 4 days ago

Do you need a safe space dude? Do I need to ask your pronouns?

...says the guy who couldn't handle the responses he got and noped out of the thread. You seem to be the one looking for a safe space from the responses you got here. You got mild hostility and noped out and somehow you're not the one who needs a safe space? I don't follow.

And what does any of this have to do with pronouns? Are you claiming that someone who has pronoun preferences (I'm sure you yourself have pronoun preferences) can't handle criticism or something? Again, I'm just not following.

AardvarksAdvance wrote: 1 week ago

Ouch. You’re taking this personally aren’t you? And you’re making a bunch of assumptions in that process..

No, I'm not. At all. You said a bunch of stuff that was false, so I corrected you. You aren't able to point out anything specific that refers to personal matters in anything I posted, since it doesn't exist. Why do you keep lying?

AardvarksAdvance wrote: 1 week ago

Not everyone plays or played the game in the same way. Not even back in the open Battlenet days. Not everyone is about meta.

You know that both you and I are speaking in generalities. Why are you pretending to not be aware of this fact?

Most people play in the way that is most effective, and they find it fun to do so. The "meta" is whatever set of decisions people have so far found that seem to be the best for achieving the results they want. There is no reason at all to play poorly, and no reward for doing so, and it isn't fun. Killing monsters faster is more fun than killing them slower. Finding good items faster is more fun than finding them slower.

AardvarksAdvance wrote: 1 week ago

I also didn’t suggest a code of honour, whether in your head or anyone else’s.

This is immediately contradicted by your very next sentence, in this post.

AardvarksAdvance wrote: 1 week ago

Yes people play and replay to farm and level up, and there’s nothing inherently wrong about that, but the modern way of doing so involves asking for carries, using shortcuts and the rest… so the playing itself is often skipped altogether or else relegated to an inconvenient step on your way to maxing.

So what? If you don't believe in a code of Honor, why shouldn't people do this? Oh right, it's because you DO believe in a code of Honor. You just haven't ever actually considered your own beliefs, nor their logical conclusion, so you don't even understand that "shortcuts are bad" and "carries are bad" is a code of Honor.

If you actually think that "there's nothing inherently wrong with that", then why did you bring it up at all? What is the point of "but the modern way involves asking for carries, using shortcuts", etc.? Why should we care?

AardvarksAdvance wrote: 1 week ago

And don’t tell me it was always this way and that this was the only way people ever played; it wasn’t and it isn’t, no matter how much you might want to believe it.

It was always this way. I played the game before the expansion existed, and I have more experience with open and closed battle.net than you do. It was and it is, no matter how much you might not want to believe it.

JARY wrote: 4 days ago

Some of my better early memories were the first few years of the game as a teen... in old D2 when it was like 600x400 resolution, I was really young, but I remember we'd be sitting in town for like 5 min then someone would finally be like "uhh.. is someone getting Leg" Then after minutes of chat a barb or someone would finally run to Trist and grab leg, then full party of Amzons, Sorc, Fury Druids, etc. would go group up and rip apart cows in 1.08-1.09

Can you actually provide a reason for why this is in any way preferable to any other method of playing the game that can't be summarized as "it's something I remember from my childhood, so it must be good and better than anything that came after"?

What is the functional difference between a cow run and a

Baal run? Do you seriously not see the irony here?

Have you ever had a thought in your entire life?