Diadems..

ganseng wrote: 2 months ago

and for some reason most diadems that seem to roll okayish are with pala skills. does pally wear diadems at all, shall i keep them on sale hoping to recuperate some skulls?

Hammerdins (and possibly FoHdins) can use them. But they have to be really good to beat Shako.

vued wrote: 2 months ago

ganseng wrote: 2 months ago

and for some reason most diadems that seem to roll okayish are with pala skills. does pally wear diadems at all, shall i keep them on sale hoping to recuperate some skulls?

Hammerdins (and possibly FoHdins) can use them. But they have to be really good to beat Shako.

Many Hammerdins will prefer Hellwarden's Will now for the extra magic damage (better than the extra +1 skills from Shako). The mana after kill makes up for Shako's extra +mana and the 20 fcr is just a nice bonus. But you lose Shako's +life, which should not be a big deal in softcore. But of course, you also lose the MF and the phys damage reduction.

Keep an eye out for gg necro circlets. Poison necro still needs those.

a simple +3 combat 20 fcr blue Diadem with 2 sockets from Larzuk, would be nice on hammerdin or fohdin, i have not done the math yet, but could still be the highest dps option.

ganseng wrote: 2 months ago

vued wrote: 2 months ago

ganseng wrote: 2 months ago

and for some reason most diadems that seem to roll okayish are with pala skills. does pally wear diadems at all, shall i keep them on sale hoping to recuperate some skulls?

Hammerdins (and possibly FoHdins) can use them. But they have to be really good to beat Shako.

thx.. and what stats are sought for?

Kind of mandatory (for high value) are 2 skills, 20fcr, and ideally 2 sockets.
In addition you want stats (STR, dex), life/mana, res.
Things like PLRB, mf, ... are nice to have, too.

paladin, you need to hit this to stand a chance to fight new rotw Helm -mr Helm. xxx's will
And it will very difficult.

The other 2 can be 25str/dex , mana ...

Even if you hit basic requirement, it will only worth Ist.

But basic requirement that will cost you more than 1000 Jah worth Perfect Skull

Hellwarden's Will is +1 sk, -8 mr , 1 socket, 6 maek, 20 fcr
will vs rare
20 fcr vs 20 fcr
+1 vs +2 skill
-8 mr vs nothing
1 socket vs 2 socket or 1 socket +all res
6 mark vs 5 maek.

-8 mr > 1 skill + 1 socket
So initially, this yellow circle will sell less than 1 Ist due to it lose to Hellwarden's Will .
- magic resistance is very important to hammdin, -1 will bigger than +1 skill due to paladin lack of ways to reduce magic resistance.

it will like this -8 mr 1 extra maek = 1 more skill , 20 all resist , some str. Around 5/6 perfect roll circle. Which is unlikely to happen.(You cost to much to build (5/6) rare circle but performance is equal to perfect Hellwarden's Will .)

6/6 is surely win and very expensive but...even if it give you infinite reroll, you are likely not get it.


DPS Hellwarden's Will +1 -8 > magic 3/20/2 > rare 2/20/2/defense attr 6/6 > 5/6
Overall 6/6 circle > 5/6 ~ Hellwarden's Will +1 -8 ~ magic 3/20/2

Magic 3/20/2 is actually very good.

Forgot to mention PvP!

2 Pala skills, 30frw, 2os, ideally stats/life/AR for melee builds.

And also watch out for lvl req.
If you get a GG lvl 30 or lvl 49 Circlet, those can have value in LLD/MLD.

I have a very long time not hear any Mid level duel...

LLD still a lot of people play that.

MLD have value, sure. activity, I am not sure if it still like old days.

ganseng wrote: 1 month ago

so guys you warned me against wasting 1000 Jah worth of skulls on futile rerolls..

but i wasted < 1 Jah so far and people are just not selling more skulls

is the price wrong (25 skulls per Ist) or is there just no market depth??

In my experience, Ist is more like 15-20 PSkulls on sc nl RotW. I sometimes sell 16 or 18 PSkulls for Ist.

it is 15 Perfect Skull per Ist in LoD but....

Rotw , is different. 16 18 is also okay.

You can buy all Perfect Skull 15-20. It is consider cheap.

I don't get it. 2-3 rolls per Ist on a Diadem? Why not just gamble them? I feel like the skulls are better used re-rolling grand charms and that what is actually needed is just Gold.

If your goal is rare circlets (diadems, whatever), surely you get way more than 2-3 per Ist worth of Gold. Plus you get a chance for gg blue ones.

Someone point out what I'm missing.

ganseng wrote: 1 month ago

who said i don't gamble??

If you're spending runes to get pskulls, surely the runes are better spent on Gold. Is it just that trading for Gold is hard?