BIS DEMON after 7 Baal Runs HELL YEAHHHH!!!!

I DID IT FINNALY!!!!

After only 7 Runs !!!!!!! ( consecutive, not counting runs I did

Baal without looking to bind a new Lister )


Bound a new Cursed

Lister the Tormentor with

Fanaticism Aura for my Summon Warlock!!!

had a Fire & Lightning Imune Lister with

Fanaticism but without cursed before.

What are the pros and cons for cursed fanata lister vs hephasto?

Lister is much slower, I go with Hephasto

I like Lister. He has

Smite, which is one of the most aggro generating attacks, so he keeps attention pretty well.

He is also cooler than Hephaesto's tubby ass.

Congrats on the Bind! I've only got a cursed Might one. I'm actually looking forward to Cursed/

Concentration Lister if they don't break

Bind Demon in the patch (with a Faith Act 1 merc).

Fanaticism was one of the Auras they would not remove from

Bind Demon skill i think.

even if they give an Act1 Mercenary the Faith aura, I think my Act 2 Mercenary will be better with its gear,

Eth Reapers Toll 15% life leech + 33% chanse to procc lvl 1

Decrepify &

Eth Fortitude &

Eth

Andariel's Visage with 15% IAS +30% Fire res jewle.

asked Ai Grok on Lister vs Hephaesto

( https://grok.com/c/7eb2b1a3-743a-498f-8 ... 63c3dc6036 ) if you have the time to read, but basicly Lister is tankier and kills faster.

DrunkAkuma wrote: 7 hours ago

Fanaticism was one of the Auras they would not remove from

Bind Demon skill i think.

even if they give an Act1 Mercenary the Faith aura, I think my Act 2 Mercenary will be better with its gear,

Eth Reapers Toll 15% life leech + 33% chanse to procc lvl 1

Decrepify &

Eth Fortitude &

Eth

Andariel's Visage with 15% IAS +30% Fire res jewle.

asked Ai Grok on Lister vs Hephaesto

( https://grok.com/c/7eb2b1a3-743a-498f-8 ... 63c3dc6036 ) if you have the time to read, but basicly Lister is tankier and kills faster.

Nice read and basically my understanding as well. You might get higher damage from the Act 5 dark lancers in a

Terror zone, but they are way more squishy. I've arely ever seen Lister's health bar move, which basically negates the "tankier" aspect of Hephaesto.

When I hit lvl 96 I want to get a terrorized cursed/

Concentration Lister (higher lvl

Concentration than Mist) and a Faith merc (higher level Fana). Might add Bramble to the merc, too, for fun.

If i wanted to I could swap out my Mercenary's Reaper's Toll for the

Eth Pride with lvl 20

Concentration Aura, but his dmg from Merc was so bad with that, and it only benefits 3 summon's while the Necro it benefit + 16 Skeles,

Clay Golem, 30+ Revives and Mercenary himself.

The Reaper's Toll that the Merc have is socked with +15% IAS & 39% Enhanced DMG, so higher chanse with +35% Increesed attack speed from

Andariel's Visage with total 50% IAS to procc

Decrepify when he attacks, also better life leech from wep +

Helm rather than only from

Helm and not from weapon, so he gets tankier aswell.


OK tested some with a

Eth Pride Tresher (lvl 20

Concentrate) apparently

Decrepify gets in the way of Listers Dmg Amp Curse.

The DMG of Lister +

Goatman's gets insane with Might +

Fanaticism auras combined with lvl 20 Con
Might keep this unless Merc has survival issues.

DrunkAkuma wrote: 6 hours ago

If i wanted to I could swap out my Mercenary's Reaper's Toll for the

Eth Pride with lvl 20

Concentration Aura, but his dmg from Merc was so bad with that, and it only benefits 3 summon's while the Necro it benefit + 16 Skeles,

Clay Golem, 30+ Revives and Mercenary himself.

I did that on my boiler. First for myself to have less spells interrupted. And it makes us visible when overcrouded. At least I see where my champs and where are Mobs.
I use Cursed +

Conviction

Blunderbore there. It kills

Baal Superfast with his CB

justinman114 wrote: 8 hours ago

What are the pros and cons for cursed fanata lister vs hephasto?

Heph is significantly faster overall which is a pro if you want a demon that just charges in and gets stuff done.
Lister gets his little

Smite attack which can be situationally decent. Or just annoying, depending on your build.

Most importantly though, Lister is larger and large enough to get tele-locked which means he won't

Charge anywhere without you moving first after teleporting. Some want that size for blocking purposes but in my book, that alone instantly disqualifies lister as a viable bind choice.

Heph or dark lancer ftw.

Schnorki wrote: 2 hours ago

justinman114 wrote: 8 hours ago

What are the pros and cons for cursed fanata lister vs hephasto?

Heph is significantly faster overall which is a pro if you want a demon that just charges in and gets stuff done.
Lister gets his little

Smite attack which can be situationally decent. Or just annoying, depending on your build.

Most importantly though, Lister is larger and large enough to get tele-locked which means he won't

Charge anywhere without you moving first after teleporting. Some want that size for blocking purposes but in my book, that alone instantly disqualifies lister as a viable bind choice.

Heph or dark lancer ftw.

Oh yeah the tele-locking is a dealbreaker for me. I don't like using

Revive on a Necro for the same reason.

Tele-locking has not been somthing I noticed to much, He's great for aggroing Uber Diablo,

Mephisto &

Baal, witch is all the + for me.

Warlock is full Summon build, with max

Demonic Mastery,

Summon Goatman,

Death Mark,

Bind Demon & the rest is going into Sigil: Lethargy untill max (lvl 14 atm) then whats left over gets either put into

Engorge or

Blood Oath or some in both not decided yet.