Stash Full

So i came back to the game once the rotw hit and i really dont have much of an idea of what is worth what anymore and my stash has completely filled up and so have 3 mules. I dont know what to get rid of and what to keep anymore and i seem to have issues selling these items. I post on different sites like traderie and this one but cant seem to sell anything at all even the thigns i would think are worth it. it seems that only god roll super rare items sell anymore along with keysets (which i have been trying to farm) and runes that i never seem to be able to find. So far

Ist

Mal

Um and a couple kos are the only runes ive found. Anyone got any advice or anything? I wonder if i should just toss most of it but i just dont want to get rid of something worth something and i search online and some things are posted for decent runes etc.

This is a good start for newbies: Nokk's Guide on What to Keep

For bases, magic items, uniques and set items you can check the price history here on diablo2.io. Useful items have at least 100 sells in the price history. You can also see what's a fair price / what you can expect to get for an item.
If you want to quickly check multiple items a list like the following might be helpful: https://maxroll.gg/d2/items/valuable-unique-set-items
It's not updated for RotW so for new items you should check the price history here.

If you've updated your characters to RotW, 1st things 1st, be sure to move all your gems and runes to the new tabs, that will likely free up 2 mules.

Beyond that, yeah it's going to be a lot of putting things up for low asking price to get them to move, or just straight up tossing stuff.

I generally run price checks on things that seem maybe useful for some builds, and if recent prices are

Pul or better I'll hold onto it. If lower, I jump in one of the free games and unload, if I even bother keeping it in storage for that long.

in rotw, you need to find rotw specific things. stature , new jewel.

low runes need to get twice as many as it used to be to sell. it was 30

Amn,

Eth,

Nef, now I guess it need 60

Amn,

Eth,

Nef . or it was 70 junk jewel, now it need 100-140.

rotw break many old trade things. Like facet,

Boots, rings, gloves.

My advise is simple, just farm

Baal only to get stature. it is rarest and most expensive.

unique , rotw new things still have value, griffon, perfect

Eth bane, or if you get something strange, it may still worth something.

if you still have stuff in LoD, low runes,

Perfect Gems,

Junk Jewels, it still sell very very quick in LoD but definitely not rotw.

it is because , in rotw craft thing is 0 value unless perfect. so only few unique still worth something, facet price also heavily impact by new jewel.
in rotw, not perfect facet is less value than 1

Perfect Gems but higher than regular junk jewel.


two side already have some difference in pricing now. Something is worth slightly more in LoD than rotw...low rune is just one example.

if you want something worth keep,

Baal stature, it is best hit. Go farm that only is enough, unique, except rings, most of them no value.

Worusk's End

Festering Essence of Destruction

Thank you guys yeah im gonna start tossing things and check the last 100 sales on here cause i seem to see a lot of things all over the place on other sites that are listed for good runes items etc but never thought to see if they actually sold for that. Cause i have lots of stuff hoping to trade up and get at least 1 of my chars fully geared before the ladder ends lol. thank you guys for your replies. I do have some shard/statue and tons of jewls cause i was trying out crafting things. i have a bunch of gcs and magic ammys with +1 to +3 of skills whether for specific skill tree or all. Ive never used this site to try to post things so ima try it out. i do like the site

in rotw, craft

Caster Amulet, that is currently worth craft, others not.

DasNarf wrote: 5 hours ago

This is a good start for newbies: Nokk's Guide on What to Keep

Reddit gave me "blocked by network crap" when following link. Did a search and finaly found the guide. Although it's OK as a first orientation, it must be said that it's outdated and therefore wrong on certain aspects (

Arioc's Needle for example)

The difficult part about "what to keep" is that it heavily depends on where you are in the game.

At the start of a ladder season, for example, a lot more stuff is useful and sellable, but on non-ladder, i started dropping non-perfect

Tal Rasha's Guardianship and

Immortal King's Soul Cage on "free" games as they take too much space and waiting to sell them has a very low time/gain ratio.

As others mentioned, i think it's best for starters to look thru sales history and take lowest price as a guide for what to demand in public games. Considering variable stats, of course.

And don't get deceived by the colour of the item. Good ethereal elite bases sell way faster and may yield higher revenue than most of the unique "BiS" items the guide mentiones

leox wrote: 5 hours ago

if you still have stuff in LoD, low runes,

Perfect Gems,

Junk Jewels, it still sell very very quick in LoD but definitely not rotw.

it is because , in rotw craft thing is 0 value unless perfect. so only few unique still worth something, facet price also heavily impact by new jewel.
in rotw, not perfect facet is less value than 1

Perfect Gems but higher than regular junk jewel.


two side already have some difference in pricing now. Something is worth slightly more in LoD than rotw...low rune is just one example.

if you want something worth keep,

Baal stature, it is best hit. Go farm that only is enough, unique, except rings, most of them no value.

Worusk's End

Festering Essence of Destruction

"it is because , in rotw craft thing is 0 value unless perfect."

Whats the reason people changed their mind with the dlc?
Is it because everyone is coming back as a gamer dad with money and they are only watching meta players praising specific items on streams and websites?
Or does the market/each player in many years of playing already have everything so it changed to the only need in perfect items to exchange the existing equip?
Or is the new generation of players only interested in perfect things?
I am really curious about this in the perspective of the psychologic decisions behind that behaviour of the market.

Greys_Prey_Two wrote: 2 hours ago

leox wrote: 5 hours ago

if you still have stuff in LoD, low runes,

Perfect Gems,

Junk Jewels, it still sell very very quick in LoD but definitely not rotw.

it is because , in rotw craft thing is 0 value unless perfect. so only few unique still worth something, facet price also heavily impact by new jewel.
in rotw, not perfect facet is less value than 1

Perfect Gems but higher than regular junk jewel.


two side already have some difference in pricing now. Something is worth slightly more in LoD than rotw...low rune is just one example.

if you want something worth keep,

Baal stature, it is best hit. Go farm that only is enough, unique, except rings, most of them no value.

Worusk's End

Festering Essence of Destruction

"it is because , in rotw craft thing is 0 value unless perfect."

Whats the reason people changed their mind with the dlc?
Is it because everyone is coming back as a gamer dad with money and they are only watching meta players praising specific items on streams and websites, or is there another reason?
Or is the new generation of players only interested in perfect things?
I am really curious about this in the perspective of the psychologic decisions behind that behaviour of the market.

It's an over-saturated market.

4+ years worth of crafting, many have already bought for the original characters. So now just looking for a Warlock amulet.

Of course if it's an amazing roll for a popular class then it'll be worth something. Otherwise often just self use.

leox wrote: 5 hours ago

in rotw, you need to find rotw specific things. stature , new jewel.



My advise is simple, just farm

Baal only to get stature. it is rarest and most expensive.

True, but right now that's only possible if

Baal is terrorized, then you have 30min. If you have a job, family and even want to sleep a few hours per day, you will not have many chances to find

Baal statues. That's why they are so costly.
Consistent income that you can farm 24/7 is keys. And they don't need any stash space anymore in RotW.

Greys_Prey_Two wrote: 2 hours ago

leox wrote: 5 hours ago

if you still have stuff in LoD, low runes,

Perfect Gems,

Junk Jewels, it still sell very very quick in LoD but definitely not rotw.

it is because , in rotw craft thing is 0 value unless perfect. so only few unique still worth something, facet price also heavily impact by new jewel.
in rotw, not perfect facet is less value than 1

Perfect Gems but higher than regular junk jewel.


two side already have some difference in pricing now. Something is worth slightly more in LoD than rotw...low rune is just one example.

if you want something worth keep,

Baal stature, it is best hit. Go farm that only is enough, unique, except rings, most of them no value.

Worusk's End

Festering Essence of Destruction

"it is because , in rotw craft thing is 0 value unless perfect."

Whats the reason people changed their mind with the dlc?
Is it because everyone is coming back as a gamer dad with money and they are only watching meta players praising specific items on streams and websites?
Or does the market/each player in many years of playing already have everything so it changed to the only need in perfect items to exchange the existing equip?
Or is the new generation of players only interested in perfect things?
I am really curious about this in the perspective of the psychologic decisions behind that behaviour of the market.

it is rotw new things kill craft.

For example, ring,

Blood Ring.
In old days, you craft 4 affix mid-high roll good, it is gg item , very good, very expensive.
Today, you need to beat opal ring in rotw, it is default 5 affix high roll.
The

Blood Ring need to hit 4 affix first and mid roll to have chance to compete new ring bottom roll.(which is usually

Ist price)
All perfect

Blood Ring can beat rotw ring but I think it is impossible. Not mention about

Safety Ring, in very good roll, it can even rotw ring but not worth it.
And craft boot , gloves, their position also beat up by rotw set. Peak roll still able to win but it will cost you.

If there is an easy way to strong and performance is same to perfect craft, why do people use craft.
So some of good item in LoD , value a lot, those will still have value in LoD, as long as those didnt move to rotw.

Greys_Prey_Two wrote: 2 hours ago

leox wrote: 5 hours ago

if you still have stuff in LoD, low runes,

Perfect Gems,

Junk Jewels, it still sell very very quick in LoD but definitely not rotw.

it is because , in rotw craft thing is 0 value unless perfect. so only few unique still worth something, facet price also heavily impact by new jewel.
in rotw, not perfect facet is less value than 1

Perfect Gems but higher than regular junk jewel.


two side already have some difference in pricing now. Something is worth slightly more in LoD than rotw...low rune is just one example.

if you want something worth keep,

Baal stature, it is best hit. Go farm that only is enough, unique, except rings, most of them no value.

Worusk's End

Festering Essence of Destruction

"it is because , in rotw craft thing is 0 value unless perfect."

Whats the reason people changed their mind with the dlc?
Is it because everyone is coming back as a gamer dad with money and they are only watching meta players praising specific items on streams and websites, or is there another reason?
Or is the new generation of players only interested in perfect things?
I am really curious about this in the perspective of the psychologic decisions behind that behaviour of the market.

One of the main reasons for crafting specifically necklaces was the fact that certain builds had a rather hard time reaching their cast break points when optimized, making a 2/15+ or 2/20 amulet the best choice. Since the introduction of

Opalvein (among other items to fill the gap, build depending), that is far less of an issue and the crafted version simply isn't BiS anymore for a fair number of those builds.
The same - to varying degrees - is true for rings and such as well. We simply got more (actually quite good) options to choose from and to replace crafted items with.

Looking at my own builds, personal preference aside, there isn't a single crafted (or rare) item among them. Not just because I never liked the chain-crafting process but really simply because even if you gave me the perfect stat combination with perfect rolls for that class/build, it would still be worse than what I'm using now.

Given, some builds do still exist where crafted is your best pick but they are noticeably less than before RotW. And luckily none of mine.

Additionally, the more time goes by, the more folks have crafted, meaning there's a massive oversupply of "good but not perfect" results in the market already, offered to a shrinking audience. -> Value goes down hard. At least on non-ladder. If you look at crafted gear offers posted in various places, there are regularly some baller crafts up for sale, relatively cheap, typically with 0 offers.

mikelessar wrote: 2 hours ago

leox wrote: 5 hours ago

in rotw, you need to find rotw specific things. stature , new jewel.



My advise is simple, just farm

Baal only to get stature. it is rarest and most expensive.

True, but right now that's only possible if

Baal is terrorized, then you have 30min. If you have a job, family and even want to sleep a few hours per day, you will not have many chances to find

Baal statues. That's why they are so costly.
Consistent income that you can farm 24/7 is keys. And they don't need any stash space anymore in RotW.

It is before patch, you can wait a few week then it is

Baal statues only game.

opal ring
+10% Faster Cast Rate
All Resistances +6-8
+1-3 Life after each Kill
+1-3 to Mana after each Kill
+3-5% to Magic/Fire/Cold/Lightning/Poison Skill Damage or +20-40% Enhanced Damage

vs regular craft

perfect craft can win by 3 all resist, lose 2 mpk, 20 STR + 15 DEX even 5 L skill damage.

win slightly by reduce damage, reduce magic damage.

So the craft ring in rotw is simply not going to work.

leox wrote: 2 hours ago

It is before patch, you can wait a few week then it is

Baal statues only game.

Yes, but then it will only take a short time and

Worusk's End will not be rare and expensive anymore. It will remain the most rare and expensive statue, but it won't be a

Lo, but probably just an

Ist or

Mal.

And Schnorki is right, some new RotW uniques have made it easier to reach your desired FCR breakpoint. And not just

Opalvein, but also

Sling and

Hellwarden's Will for magic damage builds and

Gheed's Wager as a good alternative to

Arachnid Mesh. So Arach and crafted FRC amulets lose some or even a lot of value.

About craft amulet , it is hard to say,
craft ring, yes, almost worthless.

But craft amulet, will you change it to unique or something different because of fcr? afterall

Caster Amulet is the only thing you can do.

leox wrote: 1 hour ago

About craft amulet , it is hard to say,
craft ring, yes, almost worthless.

But craft amulet, will you change it to unique or something different because of fcr? afterall

Caster Amulet is the only thing you can do.

I don't feel like this is entirely true, because you are forgetting about PVP requirements. In your example above re

Opalvein mana / life after kill is a wasted stat.

Craft blood rings still have their use, some don't even need FCR (although granted most do). They just have to be suitable for a specific build eg. BVC.

M1ck wrote: 1 hour ago

leox wrote: 1 hour ago

About craft amulet , it is hard to say,
craft ring, yes, almost worthless.

But craft amulet, will you change it to unique or something different because of fcr? afterall

Caster Amulet is the only thing you can do.

I don't feel like this is entirely true, because you are forgetting about PVP requirements. In your example above re

Opalvein mana / life after kill is a wasted stat.

Craft blood rings still have their use, some don't even need FCR (although granted most do). They just have to be suitable for a specific build eg. BVC.

my opinion is based on pvm only. So you are right about this.

look at

Sol value much higher than

Amn by 3x , I am sure you are right.